Colo. Sends Non-Vaccinating Parents ILLEGAL Order to “Register Their Child With the State”

a reply to: introvert

There's probably plenty of that evidence on other threads on ATS.

I prefer to throw ideas and my perspective from where I sit out for dialogue.

Folks who are obsessed about religion of scientism "proof" can look elsewhere.

I assume that folks seriously interested in the kind of dialogue I'm interested in about the topics I'm interested in have already done a ton of reading on such subjects. I realize it's a somewhat silly assumption hereon but it is still the one I tend to operate with--particularly regarding those I most ENJOY dialogue with.

originally posted by: alienmma
a reply to: BO XIAN

Um... It should be considered child abuse to not give your child legitimate medical treatment and vaccinations. Unless you don't mind the fact that your child could be much more vulnerable to diseases that he or she would normally be protected from if vaccinated.

The fact that you refer to "God" just shows you are going by emotion and not facts.

So you are cool with laws mandating children be breast-fed as well, I assume. Or making it a law that your child should be wearing helmet and pads at all times. Both of those statistically are more beneficial, so seems like you can't have one law without the other.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: introvert

Here's another idea . . .

not being aware of vaccinations conspiracy and the overriding global oligarchy conspiracy puts probably billions of children at much greater risk than not being vaccinated.

Probably? Does it or does it not?

Can you provide evidence of the vaccination conspiracy actually being true, compared to the evidence of real children dying from not being vaccinated?

A quick look on youtube shows plenty of teenage girls and vaccine damaged children. Before and after footage.. when the VAERS sham of a "vaccine court" is shut down all that footage will be admissible in court and considered scientific evidence as well legal.

Opposed to "we did some numbers and got a trash can when we created a bad answer".

or ye old "Correlation does not equal causation" pharma mantra which flies in the face of the basic scientific observance of cause and effect.

Good!

Every kid not vaccinated, puts my kid in danger.

a reply to: Annee

So you didn't get your kids vaccinated? Get one that actually works and you won't have to attack the medical rights of other people's kids.

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: Annee

So you didn't get your kids vaccinated? Get one that actually works and you won't have to attack the medical rights of other people's kids.

I stand by preventing communicable diseases from spreading and becoming a plague that affects millions.

I stand 100% for every kid being vaccinated - - unless for serious health reasons.

If they have a serious health problem they're probably not going to be mixed in with a group of kids in school or public where a communicable disease can be spread.

a reply to: Annee

Indeed possibly hundreds of thousands are claiming vaccines have caused health problems. The "oops your kid is allergic to vaccines" is the standard way they test for vaccine allergy. Is a child being maimed from a vaccine injury somehow more moral than being maimed by a disease?

a reply to: riley

Eyewitness testimony is the lowest form of evidence.
Keep on spreading that ignorance.

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: Annee

Indeed possibly hundreds of thousands are claiming vaccines have caused health problems. The "oops your kid is allergic to vaccines" is the standard way they test for vaccine allergy. Is a child being maimed from a vaccine injury somehow more moral than being maimed by a disease?

Population of America: 323,751,802

I win.

My mom was a polio victim. Vaccinations stopped polio. Except in countries that have made polio vaccines illegal.

originally posted by: SpongeBeard
a reply to: riley

Eyewitness testimony is the lowest form of evidence.
Keep on spreading that ignorance.

Last I checked video testimony is considered evidence enough to prove something in a court of law.
Pharma companies didn't count on people videotaping their children's reactions.

Don't accuse me of spreading ignorance while sticking your head in the sand actually throwing out real evidence to suit your own beliefs. The kids exist. Their injuries exist.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: Annee

Indeed possibly hundreds of thousands are claiming vaccines have caused health problems. The "oops your kid is allergic to vaccines" is the standard way they test for vaccine allergy. Is a child being maimed from a vaccine injury somehow more moral than being maimed by a disease?

Population of America: 323,751,802

I win.

My mom was a polio victim. Vaccinations stopped polio. Except in countries that have made polio vaccines illegal.

You "win"?


There are thousands that have been maimed through the Gates/WHO polio campaign.. to the point where they are being taken to court for it. They used a polio vaccine that is banned in the west. Your mom having polio doesn't undo their injuries or the corporate crimes that caused them.

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: Annee

Indeed possibly hundreds of thousands are claiming vaccines have caused health problems. The "oops your kid is allergic to vaccines" is the standard way they test for vaccine allergy. Is a child being maimed from a vaccine injury somehow more moral than being maimed by a disease?

Population of America: 323,751,802

I win.

My mom was a polio victim. Vaccinations stopped polio. Except in countries that have made polio vaccines illegal.

You "win"?

There are thousands that have been maimed through the Gates/WHO polio campaign.. to the point where they are being taken to court for it. They used a polio vaccine that is banned in the west. Your mom having polio doesn't undo their injuries or the corporate crimes that caused them.

323,751,802 vs a few thousand.

Yes, I win.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: Annee

Indeed possibly hundreds of thousands are claiming vaccines have caused health problems. The "oops your kid is allergic to vaccines" is the standard way they test for vaccine allergy. Is a child being maimed from a vaccine injury somehow more moral than being maimed by a disease?

Population of America: 323,751,802

I win.

My mom was a polio victim. Vaccinations stopped polio. Except in countries that have made polio vaccines illegal.

You "win"?

There are thousands that have been maimed through the Gates/WHO polio campaign.. to the point where they are being taken to court for it. They used a polio vaccine that is banned in the west. Your mom having polio doesn't undo their injuries or the corporate crimes that caused them.

323,751,802 vs a few thousand.

Yes, I win.

Do you just? So is it okay to medically assault one child to make your child's life a little easier? Do you have any idea how much therapy/education a vaccine injured child needs and how much it costs over a life time? Are you okay with kid's being injured.. and whole families ending up in poverty for it? Yours is a belief system.. a political belief system where the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. That sounds alot like Medical Communism to me.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
2. There is convincing evidence [e.g. Mexico] that vaccinations are being used as part of the oligarchy's depopulation schemes. I think that is outrageously evil.

Please post evidence for your statements.

1. Registration of children. This is but one of many steps toward their goal of removing children from parents very early and raising them BY THE TYRANNICAL STATE.
3. There may well be efforts in line with 2. to use vaccinations to make children sterile, in terms of reproduction.

^^ How does the above work in the rest of the world where immunization is not compulsory? Like most countries in Europe, for example.

originally posted by: riley
A quick look on youtube shows plenty of teenage girls and vaccine damaged children.

Well, of course, if it was on youtube it must be true!
I saw this British guy walk on water on youtube, so it must also be true, and not a trick or hoax!

Don't accuse me of spreading ignorance while sticking your head in the sand actually throwing out real evidence to suit your own beliefs. The kids exist. Their injuries exist.

Then post the evidence, I have asked you before on other threads and I am still waiting.

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley
a reply to: Annee

Indeed possibly hundreds of thousands are claiming vaccines have caused health problems. The "oops your kid is allergic to vaccines" is the standard way they test for vaccine allergy. Is a child being maimed from a vaccine injury somehow more moral than being maimed by a disease?

Population of America: 323,751,802

I win.

My mom was a polio victim. Vaccinations stopped polio. Except in countries that have made polio vaccines illegal.

You "win"?

There are thousands that have been maimed through the Gates/WHO polio campaign.. to the point where they are being taken to court for it. They used a polio vaccine that is banned in the west. Your mom having polio doesn't undo their injuries or the corporate crimes that caused them.

323,751,802 vs a few thousand.

Yes, I win.

Do you just? So is it okay to medically assault one child to make your child's life a little easier? Do you have any idea how much therapy/education a vaccine injured child needs and how much it costs over a life time? Are you okay with kid's being injured.. and whole families ending up in poverty for it? Yours is a belief system.. a political belief system where the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. That sounds alot like Medical Communism to me.

The Real World

In 1952 alone, nearly 60,000 children were infected with the virus; thousands were paralyzed, and more than 3,000 died. Hospitals set up special units with iron lung machines to keep polio victims alive. Rich kids as well as poor were left paralyzed.

Then in 1955, the U.S. began widespread vaccinations. By 1979, the virus had been completely eliminated across the country.

The U.S. recorded its last case of polio in 1979, among isolated Amish communities in several states. Then the effort to eradicate polio globally began in earnest. The Western Hemisphere reported its last case, in Peru, in 1991.

www.npr.org...

originally posted by: Agartha

Well, of course, if it was on youtube it must be true!
I saw this British guy walk on water on youtube, so it must also be true, and not a trick or hoax!

I beg your pardon? Parent's have taken footage of their children regressing after being vaccinated. They upload it to youtube as companies that have damaged their children were given legal immunity with the excuse being that vaccines were "unavoidably unsafe". I have no reason to call them liars.. or the teenage girls liars after they have been crippled by Gardasil. I DO thing such video evidence should be permitted in a court of law and that those corporations should no longer be protected. What is so wrong with that?

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Agartha

Well, of course, if it was on youtube it must be true!
I saw this British guy walk on water on youtube, so it must also be true, and not a trick or hoax!

I beg your pardon? Parent's have taken footage of their children regressing after being vaccinated.

There is a type of autism that strikes around age 3. A child that seems perfectly normal will begin withdrawing, losing speaking abilities, etc.

Has nothing to do with vaccinations, other then the coincidence in timing.

a reply to: Annee

Again you just posted numbers justifying treating a portion of the population as expendible for your everyone-should-be-herded like-cattle distopian ideal.

This thread is meant to be about citizens losing medial freedoms. You can post stats all you like.. most of them ignore the history of side effects inflicted on various populations.

There is no way I would risk my own child's health for your belief system. There is no way I would give up ANY medical freedoms and put your freedoms above my own or that of my child.

You have supported a government actually lying about there being a register for unvaccinated children.

but you want to worry about polio.

When governments start telling blatant lies to their citizens in an attempt to trick them out of their legal protections.. there is something very wrong.

a reply to: riley

Its your choice to live in reality or not.

Regressive Autism

Regressive autism occurs when a child appears to develop typically but then starts to lose speech and social skills, typically between the ages of 15 and 30 months, and is subsequently diagnosed with autism. en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: riley

originally posted by: Agartha

Well, of course, if it was on youtube it must be true!
I saw this British guy walk on water on youtube, so it must also be true, and not a trick or hoax!

I beg your pardon? Parent's have taken footage of their children regressing after being vaccinated.

There is a type of autism that strikes around age 3. A child that seems perfectly normal will begin withdrawing, losing speaking abilities, etc.

Has nothing to do with vaccinations, other then the coincidence in timing.

You really do not know much about autism.

You have just quoted big pharma. "Coincidence does not equal causation."

You know what other scientific principle applies?

Cause and effect.

..of course some would rather parent's be accused of lying or imagining a child turning red hot and having seizures after being vaccinated and their regression soon afterwards. They would also deny them the right to prove those alleged "imaginings" in a court room. You have just decided they're all liars or delusional.. based on what? A personal experience with disease? What the news said about "evil antivaxxers"?

I have no interest from stopping you from getting your child vaccinated. I will not however live under a regime that will physically force a vaccine into my child despite there being risks.

Forced vaccines will also be just the start of medical rights being taken away.