If you're white you're racist

nobody has ever considered me racist

most likely it's because I'm not

a reply to: odzeandennz

My sister gets a lot of hate from all sides. She gets hate from some members of our family, but also from some member's of her black bf's family.

I personally am OK with whomever she decides to date. I dated an Asian guy a couple of times myself. People care too much about things that aren't their business in this country.

And yeah those idiotic racists exist, but they really aren't the whole of white people. Most whites I know are pretty neutral in their opinion on other racial groups.

originally posted by: liliasthesorceress
a reply to: odzeandennz


And yeah those idiotic racists exist, but they really aren't the whole of white people. Most whites I know are pretty neutral in their opinion on other racial groups.

Some of my comments, were generalizing. but based on empirical evidence and statistical figures.

lets not give them a free pass pass and call them idiotic racists. to me idiotic racists are religious extremists who hate others based on religious beliefs. others who hate based solely on skin color are no idiots, in fact they are organized, pre meditated, well calculated.

my case is, racism in America is NOT a social-eco-political issue. its a more intrinsic problem. i see racism as a lingering evolutionary trait we need to shed. it doesnt matter how many Blacks are president or Hispanics or Asians, the case and point is this; most people here agree there are other life forms, possibly more advanced than us.

what if, an alien race comes down or something, hypothetically, and tells us, we can rid of the earth's poverty and religions. rendering every ethnic groups equal, economically, with no crime based on religion. there will still be people committing racist acts and burning churches and opposing fake inter racial families in lame ads. there will still be people whom claim superiority based on skin color. theres no need to sugar coat this. that advanced race would just have to get rid of them, then issues solved.

how do we tackle these mentalities still in 2016. we cant just stand by and call them 'idiots', what is causing them to think like that... even in a hypothetical world where advanced civilizations rids us of poverty, hence all crimes motivated by poverty, or crimes motivated by religious beliefs. what do you have left?
How do you tackle those people or 'idiots'. which theyre not... they're completely sane and have the same mind capacity as you and i. what is the biological features which convinces people on acts motivated solely by race, no skin color.
back to the OP, the comments made in reference to a KKK rally would not have been made if dumbfounded. in fact dumbfounded comments on race can be quoted coming from a particular group. this isnt science fiction. to some this is real. some people cant travel abroad or see exotic places, some have to do research before planning a family holiday. (not because of socio-eco-political crimes either)

im done.

According to the Dogon people of Mali, in West Africa, Amma, the Creator, ordained that all created beings should be living manifestations of the fundamental universal principle of complementarily or 'twinness.' This principle manifests itself as the wholeness which is created when female and male pairs join in all things. Such pairing establishes equilibrium, cooperation, balance, and harmony. Amma therefore equipped each being with twin souls -- both female and male -- at birth. But one of these primordial placentas the male soul did not wait for the full gestation period to be born. This male being was known as Yurugu (Ogo), who arrogantly wished to compete with Amma and to create a world better than that which Amma had created. With his fragmented placenta he created Earth; but it could only be imperfect, since he was incomplete, that is, born prematurely, without his female twin-soul. Realizing that he was flawed and therefore deficient, Yurugu returned to Amma seeking his complementary female self. But Amma had given his female soul away. Yurugu forever incomplete, was doomed to perpetually search for the completeness that could never be his. The Earth, he had defiled in the act of self-creation, was now inhabited by single-souled, impure and incomplete beings like himself. Yurugu's descendants, all eternally deficient, originated in an incestuous act, since he had procreated with his own placenta, the representation of his mother

a reply to: Indigo5

Why don't you learn the history of the Irish in both their homeland and in the US?

Don't want to face reality?

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Indigo5

Why don't you learn the history of the Irish in both their homeland and in the US?

Don't want to face reality?

For effs sake...I am a hobby historian, genealogist and am g-grandchild of Irish Immigrants...and German..both of which faced discrimination in the late 1800's and early 1900's..

Mostly from effen xenophobes like donald trump and his supporters...

The fact that Irish immigrants were discriminated against doesn't support your cause...it just reminds us how effen stupid intolerance and immigrant fear mongering is...

Stupid people always need an "other" to hate...



oh...and don't forget the Asians!



..

Or the Italians!



and of course the African Americans!...





So yes...you are right...Trump is nothing new to this country...he is as old as stupidity and hate...

Now it's the damn Mexicans, Blacks and Muslims ...

Same as it ever was...

a reply to: Indigo5

So you knew the entire time then why are you playing games?

a reply to: odzeandennz

Most of the vitriolic racists I have known (and I not talking about white people who listen to rap music, or like sushi, or had cornrows for a while or something) are people who see other races as taking something from them.

Like blacks and Mexicans are taking their hard earned tax dollars because of welfare.

I don't agree with this view but its justification for most of it.

Then they invent paranoid theories about how the white race is being destroyed. I had a crazy racist old guy tell me that a black male news anchor and a white blond female news anchor sitting next to one another was a Jewish conspiracy to make white women date black men, therefore dumbing down the white race. They are usually obsessed with blond women for some reason. I never cared and thought it was moronic. I'm a brunette though. That's why *some* not all, nowhere near the majority, of whites are racist.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Indigo5

So you knew the entire time then why are you playing games?

Nothing personal...but I am going to have to choose not to have a conversation with you....I communicate in a style and manner in which some people understand and some people do not..So rather than encourage both our frustrations..lets call it a day.

originally posted by: liliasthesorceress
a reply to: odzeandennz

Most of the vitriolic racists I have known (and I not talking about white people who listen to rap music, or like sushi, or had cornrows for a while or something) are people who see other races as taking something from them.

Like blacks and Mexicans are taking their hard earned tax dollars because of welfare.

And this is the way history always is...

Blame the minority for the economic ills you suffer...because blaming the minority has the least social consequence..

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Indigo5

So you knew the entire time then why are you playing games?

Nothing personal...but I am going to have to choose not to have a conversation with you....I communicate in a style and manner in which some people understand and some people do not..So rather than encourage both our frustrations..lets call it a day.

So that's your cop out?

You were leading me on with questions you obviously had an answer for........

Now you can't talk to me because you don't want to tell me why you did that?

Kind weird don't you think?

We appreciate intellectual honesty here.

a reply to: Indigo5

you are both correct. what boggles my mind is not racism, its rather the lack of a scientific approach to the behavior.
time and time again, we see its not all who are racist; not all just dismiss another ethnic group based on skin color or economical status. but there are some. why is that?

there are those who do, and will stand by their convictions. why.
another black president will not abolish racism, nor minorities in political positions. there are no branch in science where ideology is used as a research tool. no scientists will look at a problem and say, well after x amount of years, we need to inject more diversity to fix a problem. no, so why do we think the answer is education or a melting pot.
it doesnt matter how melted that 'pot is' some will still have certain sentiments toward other ethnic groups, we need to scientifically find out why.

300 years from now, if i say there are people who will still feel blacks or latinos, or 'other' are lesser than them, i wont be wrong, i cant simply say those are idiots... theyre not. some are higly educated. this not something time will change. its not a question of economic status. if Michael jordan, a billionaire now, stands outside a 7-11 next to a white male, and a call to the police is made about suspect behavior. as that Leo is approaching from afar, i can bet which of the 2 gentlemen that Leo will gravitate towards. its no an economical status issue

We Cant just deduce just 'idiosyncrasy' from this behavior. its more than that.

we dont need another revolution or black president or movies with non white principle actors .. we dont beed another 'revolution ', we an Evolution.
scientists need to stop with their fear of PC and the thought police and bring forth physiological data (anthropological data) and come up with a solution. otherwise were square dancing in a circle.... pointless and avoiding the answers.

a reply to: odzeandennz
ose.utsc.utoronto.ca...

by April Kemick

The human brain fires differently when dealing with people outside of one’s own race, according to new research out of the University of Toronto Scarborough.

This research, conducted by social neuroscientists at U of T Scarborough, explored the sensitivity of the “mirror-neuron-system” to race and ethnicity. The researchers had study participants view a series of videos while hooked up to electroencephalogram (EEG) machines. The participants – all white – watched simple videos in which men of different races picked up a glass and took a sip of water. They watched white, black, South Asian and East Asian men perform the task.

Seems as if tribalism is built into our genetic code.

Could it secretly be more of an issue than you think?

a reply to: odzeandennz

his.diva-portal.org/.../FULLTEXT01.pdf

Here's another good one for you on empathy and the brain ... Slightly less biased of course.

The pain matrix including the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) mediates not only first person pain experience but also empathy for others' pain. It remains unknown, however, whether empathic neural responses of the pain matrix are modulated by racial in-group/out-group relationship. Using functional magnetic resonance imaging we demonstrate that, whereas painful stimulations applied to racial in-group faces induced increased activations in the ACC and inferior frontal/insula cortex in both Caucasians and Chinese, the empathic neural response in the ACC decreased significantly when participants viewed faces of other races. Our findings uncover neural mechanisms of an empathic bias toward racial in-group members

m.jneurosci.org...

Here's more for you to look at.

a reply to: onequestion

and to think we could have had 14 pages of intelligent debate as opposed to the usual rhetoric.

thank you. there is another interesting thread on
the spread of bio diversity in europe.
ats

these are the pieces we need to start bringing together and understand what our biological stance is on diversity.
its better to discuss 'racism' or indignation as a lingering evolutionary trait from as far as when we became farmers and gatherers as opposed to nomadic hunters.

what we see in nature in other animals which may resemble racism or bigotry, we call them natural behavior. we are animals too... we are just a brilliant ape.
of course here on ats, intelligent discussion taking a scientific stance on racial divide is not as common as the 'hes racist, or youre racist etc'
why dont we deny ignorance that way instead of making a 'youre racist if youre white thread'....and give stars and flags to dumbfounded points of views.

Op for the record, youre not a racist because someone made a vague comment.
it seems you're smart enough to know that.

a reply to: odzeandennz

I've been waiting for someone to ask.

We need to evolve but first comes understanding.

Racism was built in as a survival mechanism. We will evolve past it once we understand we no longer need it but with the ignorant masses that won't be in our lifetime

I start threads like this because otherwise it will get ignored.

originally posted by: onequestion


So today on Facebook one of my Brazilian friends went to a Trump rally so I asked him how it went.

This was the first response...

It was interesting. A lot of hostility between the people. It felt like a kkk rally to be honest. The protesters were pretty aggressive and corned all the Trump supporters at one point. Tons of media and law enforcement at the scene

I just love the logic, the anti Trump protestors were the ones getting agressive and "cornering" Trump supporters, yet it's the Trump supporters who are racist? !? Mr. Orwell would be proud of your friend . I love how the left actually resorts to physical intimidation in response to words. Free speech as long as it's mine.

a reply to: odzeandennz


Are you actually advocating for PC police and thought police?

I equate racism to religious fanaticism. Some people are kinda fanatical but keep it under wraps when dealing with the public, other peopel go to the extreme and try to ban things and even kill other humans for their beliefs.

But you can't say that ALL Muslims or ALL Christians, or ALL people of ANY religious are like this, otherwise the human race would be extinct due to the constant war and murder.

OK. Do I care? Nope. I accept my actions, not others. Think what you want, no sweat off of me.