The Barroso Case
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INTERVIEW WITH DR. MAGALHAES
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-- Based on the book “ETs, santos e demônios na terra do Sol” (Et’s, Saints and Demons in the Land of the Sun) by Reginaldo de Athayde. --
Introduction
When interviewing Dr. Antonio Moreira Magalhães, who attended the victim of that strange luminous force, we could feel that in the beginning he was
reluctant to accept that Barroso case had an unusual clinical picture. But after clinically examining the patient, he was certain that Barroso had
actually been taken by an unidentified flying object. But from where?
Athayde – Dr. Magalhães, what do you think of this whole story?
Magalhães – This is really something out of the ordinary. At first I did not accept the version of the patient. The story was too fantastic to be
accepted immediately, and even if I knew he was not a man of creating fantasies, I waited for more information to come.
Athayde – How was your first contact with Barroso?
Magalhães – I was in my office when the family brought him for a consultation. He was nervous, and had the left side of his body red and edematous.
It seemed an allergy. The eyes were ejected, but told the story usually as I said earlier. His eyes were bulging, but he told the story in a normal
way, as I said.
Athayde – Did you believe in the UFO story?
Magalhães – No way. I did not believe in certain things out of the ordinary. I do not mean to be an atheist or a materialistic person, but that
flying saucer story did not fit in my head. It seemed to me just tales from idle people, fantasies of fertile minds, like the tales on werewolves.
Athayde – When did you start to accept the situation, namely that really something weird had happened?
Magalhães – When I met him in Fortaleza and talked about his case, I was more inclined to believe. Then, in view of the possibility of the anomaly
be explained by science, I began to observe it from another angle, although not knowing how a medical explanation would fit. I also thought about the
impact it would have on my career, with my colleagues or even beyond.
Athayde – When sending Barroso to Fortaleza at the request of his family, did you think he would improve?
Magalhães – I had some doubts because as a doctor I know what it can be and cannot be done for a patient. I thought he should be checked by
neurologists and psychiatrists. So it was my professional duty to refer him to a more advanced center of medicine, wherever it was, for the treatment
to be the right one.
Athayde – When sending him to Fortaleza, you registered in the medical logbook that the patient had suffered interference from a possible UFO. Did
you believe in the story?
Magalhães – Barroso was always a good man. He didn’t use to lie and his illness escaped any treatment I know. The case was really weird. It was
not just him to be assaulted –if this word can be applied here– but other two or three people were in the hospital telling similar stories. So why
not accept the truth? Furthermore, it is my duty to register in the medical logbook or patient records all the relevant details the treatment, so my
colleagues can reach a right conclusion.
Athayde – Some of your colleagues in Fortaleza criticized you for placing in record that the patient would have suffered interferences from a
possible UFO. What do you think about it?
Magalhães – Everyone can criticize what he/she wants. I know what really happened. Barroso’s story is true. He was a victim of something
extraordinary and must be examined according to certain judgment. But it is hard…
Athayde – When we previously interviewed you, you had some doubts of speaking on UFOs, but not know. Why?
Magalhães – You’ve already asked me that. The story was fantastic and I was not sure about what had really happened. Now, after reading a lot and
properly studying the case, I have no reason to not say the truth. Barroso is there, sick, subjected to an inexplicable regression. Therefore, it is a
real case and should be studied deeply by competent authorities, without despising your own studies, Athayde, for sure.
Athayde – It is truly an amazing case which, we believe, could not be ignored by you, a renowned doctor.
Magalhães – The patient is there, incapacitated. In the first days, in addition to amnesia, his reflexes were over. He had numbness in his limbs,
swollen eyes, and there was a redness on his body. He experienced difficulties to breathe, his hair rapidly turned grayish and he became helpless, not
to speak of liquid retention in his body and other problems impossible to root in a single disease. It is something out of the ordinary. Meanwhile,
his skin seems to rejuvenate, it is light, transparent and has no wrinkles. Like a youth! What is most striking is that, even in this unbearable heat
and being always lying, he doesn’t catch a cold or flu, nor any other desease. His muscles are stiff, even though he has scaly skin on his upper
limbs. He has, let’s say, a perfect health apart from his cerebral impairment of course.
Athayde – When we were here in the company of Mr. Bob Pratt it was suggested the hypothesis that this is an early old-age multiple sclerosis. What
do you think?
Magalhães – Impossible. A multiple sclerosis is not developing so quickly nor with these characteristics or symptoms. Moreover, we would have come
to a prompt diagnosis. After all, he was examined by 17 specialized and renowned doctors.
Athayde – Do you he can die soon at any time?
Magalhães – We all can. He has no terminal illness, just the problems linked to his brain that we cannot explain.
Athayde – May he have undergone some brain surgery?
Magalhães – I cannot say what really happened. I just know that he suffers an inexplicable mental regression that Medicine cannot puzzle out, at
least within our knowledge in the [Brazilian] hinterland and Fortaleza. We tried electroencephalograms and other medical tests on the brain, but they
showed no anomalies. It’s astonishing!
Athayde – Do you know any other case like this?
Magalhães – No, I don’t. And I don’t want to know. It’s enough…
Athayde – Although tragic, wouln’t it be good for terrestrial medicine if there were more cases like this?
Magalhães – I don’t think so. We should not have other cases, but anything can happen. Who knows? Such stories are out there, each one as unreal
as the next… Let’s see what happens!
Athayde – I want to ask you again: do you have now any doubt that Barroso was abducted by ETs?
Magalhães – I cannot assert it, but until medicine can prove the opposite, this is a case that escape from the reality of our planet… The
evidence is there. Just look at the victim and the contition he finds himself in. So I have no right to put it in doubt. We have learnt of more cases
from Jaburu, from Morada Nova, from Açude do Cedro and other places, they are also evidence… And when I see you get here dirty from dust, tired,
like those Americans and French who have come to Quixadá, I believe that something really serious does exist and you [ufologists] know much more that
it seems… Am I right?
Athayde – Sir, do you have anything else to add to Barroso Case?
Magalhães – It is a “chewed” case, everyone knows everything. We’ll be with Barroso and if there is any news we will contact you.