Saudi Arabia Admits To John Kerry That It Created ISIS... But There Is A Twist

Former DIA Director Michael Flynn: It was a decision to fund, arm ISIS

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a reply to: gladtobehere

The US didn't create ISIS so much as its actions inadvertently aided in its rise. In fact, there is little evidence which supports the allegations that the US intentionally created and funded ISIS. The West has been actively fighting every variant of ISIS since 2003. We put them down in Iraq when they tried their uprising in 2006/2007, and we are actively putting them down again, albeit through less direct means.

The fact we have spent so much time, money and energy in fighting ISIS, completely undermines the assertions that the US would actively seek to support them.

Yes, the US did initially support Syrian rebels who eventually defected to ISIS and other terrorist organisations, but i doubt it is something the US was hoping for. Just recently, the US, in coordination with Jordan, deployed a new rebel unit over the latter's border, which began attacking ISIS and taking land in the south of Syria. It shows that the US is still wanting to fund rebels to not only combat the Assad regime, but ISIS as well. This isn't even mentioning their extensive air campaign since 2014, and their support for Kurdish units which has arguably turned the tide in the war against the group.

The conflicts in Syria and the wider Middle-East are too complicated to be seen in black and white.

a reply to: 727Sky

I reckon Saudi Araiba is simply carrying baskets of water for the Americans on this issue too just like they are for 911 at the moment.

a reply to: gladtobehere

Don't forget the UK government's 2p worth...although it was probably at the US's insistence, our government also sent money, arms and equipment their way.

There is only one group that ties all this together and that is the covert arm of the CIA .Need weapons smuggled? CIA .Need a proxy army? CIA Need someone to smuggle drugs using NATO planes and bases .CIA . Need someone bumped off ? CIA Need a mole inside another countries intelligence ?CIA

There are CIA agents in all levels of society and they are the only group with the tools and resources to sway other Govt's by hook or by crook .Think economic hit man and the jackals . Pulling off a coup is one of their specialities . They recruit from people in sports to actors ,doctors and Indian chiefs .

Because of National Security they know all and they hide all under that blanket .No one seems to be shielded from them weather a JFK or rebel fighters hiding on the top of mountains in Yemen . Like their Jesuit brothers before them they are on both sides of the story .A famous one once said We are creating a NWO and we will . By hook or by crook .

a reply to: Shiloh7

I believe the reason ISIS has stayed clear of Israel is because of the vast amount of superior weapons that Israel has and WILL use without any hesitation if attacked. (unlike the dithering of the USA) Also, ISIS don't want a new enemy on a new war front.

a reply to: 727Sky

I think Saudi Arabia creating ISIS is a pretty good definition of "disasterous foreign policy" on the Saud's part---IS would cut the throat of every member of the house of Saud and fly the black flag of hate over the peninsula.

Not to mention stabbing the US in the back.

The Saudi have Shia on their brain. They're unhappy that the US wants a stable, partially democratic, country in Iraq after all the mess? Well, tough, butch up.

Perfectly Sunni Saddam invaded their oil-rich neighbor and almost invaded them, were it not for the massive Cold-War sized US Army + Air Force.

Sheesh, the only actually reliable allies are the Kurds, and they don't have a country.

In the end....

Sadly, does it really matter? Does it really make any difference to know WHO if nothing will be done to those responsible?

*sigh*

It's like a real-life game of "Risk".

What they are referring to in the film clip is Carters and Brzezinskis "Operation Cyclone". In Afghanistan the Mujahideen rebels were uprising against the Soviet puppet regime. The rebels of course were being armed from the US & Saudis in the hopes of an overthrow and/or to "goat" the Soviets into an invasion which of course would devastate its economy. The arming of the rebels escalated greatly after the invasion. (3 to 6 $Billion =/-). Large shipments of stingers were supplied in order to bring down the supposedly indestructible Hind-24 armor helicopters. In a nutshell the strategy worked...but we are still dealing with after effects of middle east meddling (anticipated by Carter and Brzezinski but both thought it was still worth the risk). The Saudis had a hand in creating ISIS but certainly did not do so on their own. I will leave you to your own conclusions.