McDonald's Says its Wage Hikes Are Improving Service

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: onequestion

McDonalds has money to throw away. Do you think a mom and pop burger joint can afford to pay their employees $15/hour?

no. It won't do anything but kill the small businesses and inflate prices.

"Mum and pop" take away joints (fish & chip shops) seem to do just fine paying their employee's around $15US an hour in Australia.

Prices aren't inflated to the extent that some people would claim they would be under a $15US minimum either, I've proved this in numerous threads... The average meal at McDonalds in Australia will cost you about $7.70US, so unless a large big Mac meal costs less than $3.50 in the US, the whole claim about over inflated prices with a livable wage has been proven BS.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

In my mind it's reprehensible to have someone working for less than what they need to survive on.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

In my mind it's reprehensible to have someone working for less than what they need to survive on.

I want people to be making a living wage if they work. The problem is how broken the entire system is. A huge wage increase for a job anyone can do isn't going to fix it, it's just going to effect the poor people when it leads to an increased price in purchasing.

originally posted by: TSefu

I want people to be making a living wage if they work.

Some jobs aren't meant to provide a "living wage". Burger flipping would be among those.

If you're an adult working a minimum wage job, something very bad has gone wrong in your life.

It's sad that so many are concerned about minimum wage.

Only because the jobs that pay 60, 70, 80 thousand a year are gone because of the poor economy.

a reply to: DBCowboy

It's a bad situation dude.

a reply to: Bedlam

Don't try to get me to believe that complete bs.

People work they make enough money to live on.

If they don't make enough money to live on they will die therefore they can no longer work.

a reply to: TSefu

Sorry but I'm no an advocate for slavery

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: DBCowboy

It's a bad situation dude.

Agreed.

Personally, I'd leave minimum wages alone and would try to see to it that you had opportunities to make 100K a year.

I'd really like to see people making money so they didn't ever have to rely on government or minimum wage.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Me to man but the job market really is tough.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: DBCowboy

Me to man but the job market really is tough.

And a forced increase in wages will make it less so?

a reply to: Phage

I won't communicate with you on anything as you lead my on a wild goose chase that eventually leads to us discussing something totally irrelevant.

a reply to: onequestion

You mean I ask confusing questions?
Yeah, critical thinking can get in the way of preconceptions. Can't it? But it's one of the best ways to really learn anything.
www.criticalthinking.org...

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Bedlam

Don't try to get me to believe that complete bs.

So, to you, delivering papers is good enough for a living wage?

Bull#.

originally posted by: onequestion

People work they make enough money to live on.

If they don't make enough money to live on they will die therefore they can no longer work.

Not all labor is of equal value.

That's a basic.

Think about it.

is burger flipping or delivering papers the same as neurosurgery?

No. Period. It is not.

Some jobs are not worth making a living wage. They are for learning how to work. It's a kid's job.

If you are working flipping burgers as an adult, something very wrong has happened in your life.

Even as a kid, I could find better jobs than that.

a reply to: Bedlam

Sorry but go to a store and see how many of these jobs are being done by kids.

Your logic is seriously flawed and not grounded in reality.

Your perspective is tied to a pre NAFTA world and that world is gone.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Bedlam

Sorry but go to a store and see how many of these jobs are being done by kids.

Your logic is seriously flawed and not grounded in reality.

Your perspective is tied to a pre NAFTA world and that world is gone.

My tax dollars go towards providing those people with better educations than that.

If you don't avail yourself of it, then # you. It was handed to you on a silver platter. You spit on it. Ok. Time to face the results of your choices in life.

I refuse to support the lazy. As I said, if you are an adult with that job, then it's the choice you made.

NAFTA be damned, I was always able to find better than minimum wage jobs. If you have any drive or talent whatever, then those jobs are there. Even driving a forklift pays better than burger flipping.

eta: I was a junior in a backwoods high school when I hit better than minimum wage. I drove a forklift and did specialty welding for a couple of years before my military stint. It's got nothing to do with NAFTA. If you have any gumption at all, you will do better as an adult. If you're still working the register at the McD's, you might as well put on the concrete shoes and go river wading. There are a lot of jobs waiting for the people that have any motivation at all.

a reply to: Bedlam

Even driving a forklift pays better than burger flipping.

More fun too. I bet.
Done the former, not the latter. Latter didn't pay enough.

a reply to: Bedlam

Like I said your thoughts aren't grounded in reality.

74 million Americans make less than 30k a year.

Anyone who works hard full time and does a good job deserves a standard of living that isn't poverty.

a reply to: onequestion

Anyone who works hard full time and does a good job deserves a standard of living that isn't poverty.

Not if what they are doing costs more than it's worth.