Common heartburn drugs linked with kidney disease

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I first heard this on CNN this morning as though it were very new. Reading I see they showed this connection in studies since 2014.

And after five years of follow-up, the researchers found the PPI users had a 28 percent increased risk of developing chronic kidney disease and a 96 percent increased risk of developing kidney failure, compared to those taking the alternative drugs.

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a reply to: SeaWorthy

I remember them telling me that I was going to be on prilosec for the rest of my life.

Then I discovered that these drugs resulted in bone loss and issues with vital nutrients.

It was not easy going off of these toxic drugs, I literally had to cut the pills into 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and then I stopped. Also I stopped eating all processed foods, GMO anything, meat, dairy, and imagine that no more heartburn!!

Shocking really, the doctors would have been content with my bones being destroyed and apparently my kidneys as well thank you for the info!

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: luthier

Sauerkraut that is actually fermented does a lot for acid reflux issues. It cured my ulcwr and reflux.

I have started this as well and kimchi. Going to start making my own.

It's so easy to make kraut. Shred, crush, put in brine. You can buy the valves for ball jars. (,or just open the lid every now and again).

I actually came apon this cure by accident after a stomach bug. I was craving sauerkraut and started reading about it.

Love kimchi too. Cabbage is an incredible food. I started fermenting all kinds of stuff. Now alcohol doesn't even upset my stomach

originally posted by: Pharyax
If you need them, take Zantac... it works on the 'Histamine 2' receptors in your stomach. Very long term use could cause bones to become weak, but I take it once or twice a month...

better than Kidney disease.. geez.

But yeah, its a pill--band aide. it doesn't stop the cause, which is, we all know, what foods we eat.

They LOVE making pills for reactions and not work on cures or cause.

This is one year!!They made some money for sure!

As the study notes, about 15 million Americans were prescribed PPIs in 2013, though the number is likely higher because many are available over the counter.

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a reply to: Pharyax
Zantac 150s is what I take. Nice and cheap and the Dollar Store brand. My doctor recommended them.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Pharyax
Zantac 150s is what I take. Nice and cheap and the Dollar Store brand. My doctor recommended them.

Unfortunate for many of my Family and Friends their Doctors prescribed and like others mentioned were told they would have to take for life the ones that harm the kidneys. I am glad your Dr was an exception.

a reply to: SeaWorthy
Thanks , your post just reminded me of the best advise i ever got on heartburn or acid reflux, I had forgotten a very effective , non -medication treatment. Elevate the head of the bed about 1 inch. I am doing so now

a reply to: Bigburgh


Two ounces of freshly squeezed lemon juice, with two ounces of extra virgin olive oil, three times a day followed by plenty of water, will get rid of kidney stones quite quickly along with dropping the pain.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Bigburgh


Two ounces of freshly squeezed lemon juice, with two ounces of extra virgin olive oil, three times a day followed by plenty of water, will get rid of kidney stones quite quickly along with dropping the pain.

Good to know certainly an easy thing to do two ounces oil may be hard going down though
3 times a day how long?

Hiatus hernia.

30mg Lansoprazole. Zantac when needed.

Have tried a controlled diet and apple cider vinegar, even lettuce gives me reflux.
No matter what I do I need the meds.

originally posted by: and14263
Hiatus hernia.

30mg Lansoprazole. Zantac when needed.

Have tried a controlled diet and apple cider vinegar, even lettuce gives me reflux.
No matter what I do I need the meds.

But have you tried the Kraut?

But seriously if that is all that works then can't argue with that.

ACV will not help at all with any type of ulcer. Cabbage juice and sauerkraut are pretty effective. Just in case you haven't gone that route or are stuck without your meds.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Bigburgh


Two ounces of freshly squeezed lemon juice, with two ounces of extra virgin olive oil, three times a day followed by plenty of water, will get rid of kidney stones quite quickly along with dropping the pain.

Good to know certainly an easy thing to do two ounces oil may be hard going down though

3 times a day how long?

Until you pass the stone. It also depends what kind of stone. I get those too. Usually lemon juice will just make it smaller and the oil helps coat the damage done.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Stop these weird medicines and just take lemon juice + soda... Its amazing for acid reflux, no side effects, offers tons of health benefit..

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Try going on a grain-free/low carb diet (grains can cause inflammation), or losing weight, especially if you have belly fat. Those two things can do wonders for chronic heartburn.

I had problems with heartburn - went on low carb diet, lost some weight - heartburn virtually disappeared.

Good Lord. We agree on something.

I used to have really god-awful indigestion due to work hours/times/content and they wanted me on a PPI, stopped eating low grade starches like breads, cereal, taterses, bananas and so on. Sadly, also gave up beer.

Presto! No more indigestion, ever. I eat carbs, but they're peppers, squashes, green beans sorts of fibrous veggies. Lots of green leafy stuff, tomatoes, berries. A few occasional starchy beans like black beans or fresh limas.

I'm amazed now when I get heartburn at all.

BTW, you can still take histamine blocker antacids. I don't think they've found any real issues with Zantac. But I wouldn't take it every day.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Pharyax
Zantac 150s is what I take. Nice and cheap and the Dollar Store brand. My doctor recommended them.

I get the same.. I was so happy when they went generic . Same for Zyrtec (Cetirizine). My Wife takes those for allergies, and damn, those are expensive--until they went generic! Save like $18 for 180ct at Target. lol.

a reply to: Pharyax

expensive--until they went generic! Save like $18 for 180ct at Target. lol

My daughter thinks the generic is much better than the original...and she should know.

Try though I might, I couldn't find what type of kidney disease these drugs cause, or what leads to kidney failure. There are many things that can go amuck with the kidneys, and I haven't found any specificities about what the drugs do to the organs themselves. Just the generic "chronic kidney disease".

This is a reason why when possible, it's best to go for an old "tried and true" drug. One that's been around for a while.
I don't think clinical studies these days meet the standards of what was once in place, nor do the drug companies always follow the set standards. They seem to rush them so they can get them on the market and start raking in their billions.

~For example, I research a drug once to find the standard for the clinical study was eight months for 200 people, and I finally found the actual trial was performed on 40 people for four months. All participants were in Haiti.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Try though I might, I couldn't find what type of kidney disease these drugs cause, or what leads to kidney failure.

I guess chronic kidney disease IS a disease caused by many various things.

They're sold under the names Prilosec, Nexium and Prevacid, to name a few. And this new study claims those who take them are more likely than people on other heartburn medications to develop chronic kidney disease or kidney failure over a five-year period.

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Chronic kidney disease
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Chronic kidney disease is the slow loss of kidney function over time. The main job of the kidneys is to remove wastes and excess water from the body.

Causes
Chronic kidney disease (CKD) slowly gets worse over months or years. You may not notice any symptoms for some time. The loss of function may be so slow that you do not have symptoms until your kidneys have almost stopped working.

The final stage of CKD is called end-stage renal disease (ESRD). At this stage, the kidneys are no longer able to remove enough wastes and excess fluids from the body. At this point, you would need dialysis or a kidney transplant.

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This is horrible news for me, five years plus 20mg omep per day . The problem that I have , if discovered in 2014, why now is it news ?

What really tweaks me, is what now? Alternatives or is kidney failure ok. I have two of them

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Thank you,interesting,i did not know that. I'm one of those fortunate people who bitterly seldom gets heartburn,even with my pregnancies i never got,and i know a lot of preggy women gets heartburn every time.So it's a case of 2-3 times a year having to take the bicarb anyway,my husband takes it more,he often gets heartburn,but he is overweight and has a lot of digestive issues in general.I have a stomach ulcer,and used to take prescriptions drugs for the pain and discomfort-but i found an old South African folk remedy that works even better. One would use a can of condensed milk mixed with a bottle of Turlington elixir-tastes like satan's vomit even with the condensed milk as a carrier,but it Really works.works out cheaply,one can store in a cool dark cupboard for a whole month,well longer i guess but i replace it once a month when i need it.Don't store it in a fridge,makes it go "sandsuiker" meaning harder and sugary,it has to keep the smooth flowable consistency.