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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: redempsh
Holy hell! The guy grew up with a silver spoon and you wan to say he exemplifies the working class?? He got a a million dollar loan from his father! How many working class folks do you know that can say that? He has no idea what it is like to be working class, if you think he does are just infatuated with him and can't see the truth.
Bad hair and liking pretty women doesn't make you working class, all kinds of billionaires have bad hair and trophy wife's.
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: thinline
So you support massive government spending in order to supply jobs?
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: thinline
So you support massive government spending in order to supply jobs?
One could cite numerous public works projects throughout history that have spurred economic growth. Heck, war is often cited as an economy builder, and what is war? Basically a nationwide public works endeavor.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: thinline
So you support massive government spending in order to supply jobs?
One could cite numerous public works projects throughout history that have spurred economic growth. Heck, war is often cited as an economy builder, and what is war? Basically a nationwide public works endeavor.
I'm all for such plans, I have no problem with spending tax money to create jobs, even if I think the wall is impracticable. Most of Trumps supporters though typically aren't in favor of taking that approach.
originally posted by: amicktd
originally posted by: Edumakated
Liberals and math don't mix...
Trump fans and valid facts/points don't mix either.
originally posted by: whatsup86
originally posted by: M5xaz
Right.
So now that the cost argument has been settled, move to another excuse.
Border walls work very very well, in Egypt or Israel for example.
But for liberals, it is never about facts
About that Israeli wall:
Its just 33 miles and 25 ft high, the rest is a 6ft high fence. Trump wants a 1000 mile 35ft high concrete wall.
About the costs for that wall when comparing the Israeli wall:
Assuming the cost of the fence was equivalent to the U.S. fence ($3 million a mile), that suggests about $1 billion of the cost was for the fence; the other $1.4 billion was for 33 miles of the wall (which was built in mostly metropolitan areas). Believe it or not, that translates to $42 billion for 1,000 miles of a 25-foot wall. (Recall that Trump wants a 35-to-40-foot wall.)
So 42 billion if it would be build 10 ft lower than Trump wants, if it was only build in easy to build and accessible areas and thats all without maintenance costs....
About maintenance of the fence you currently have in place:
The Corps of Engineers estimated that the 25-year life cycle cost of the fence would range from $16.4 million to $70 million per mile; the total cost of the fencing so far has been $7 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service.)
Now imagine how that would translate to a 35 ft high concrete wall.
www.washingtonpost.com...
originally posted by: M5xaz
But for liberals, it is never about facts
Right and Trumps estimates his wall costs 12 billion.
For starters, the Mexican border is 1,954 miles long and if we subtract away 54 miles to allow for border crossings that makes it 1,900 miles. Now if the great wall of Trump requires bricks one foot long, one foot wide and one foot deep then the foundation layer would require...10,032,000 bricks.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
I didn't know that you spoke to most of Trump's supporters. Did they tell you why they were opposed?