Abomination 2016: The Revive Roman Empire

I initially thought that this immigrant crisis in Europe was a conspiracy to destroy Europe. Now I fear that it is worse than that. The Elites seem to be using this Crisis to push forward an agenda that will result in Turkey (Byzantine Rome) reuniting with Europe (Western Rome). Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the metal statue predicted Rome as the legs of Iron (Byzantium and Holy Rome). It also predicted its revival as the feet of iron mixed with clay. Each leg has a foot, so logically both sides of Rome would be revived.

What if Turkey does join the EU, and Erdogan uses his ISIS ties to start a Muslim revolution to fulfill Islamic prophecy (taking over Rome)? There are a lot of confused immigrants out there looking for a spiritual leader.

I've noticed that this Turkish deal is following the same process as the Iranian Nuclear deal. In my opinion, it is foreshadowing the chronological future fulfillment of the Abomination that will cause Desolation. See this thread for info on the Iranian Deal.

Jan 19, 2014--P5+1 organizes a future meeting to for Iran Nuclear Treaty
Jan 19, 2016--Donald Tusk of the EU sets deadline to find a solution to the European immigrant crisis.Article.

March 5, 2014--P5+1 holds a framework meeting to allow Iran access to Nuclear material for "infrastructure" purposes.
March 4, 2016(account for leap day)--Donald Tusk visits Erdogan in Istanbul, Turkey to establish a frame work deal that will hopefully result in Turkey sharing the burden and responsibility in the Syrian Immigrant Crisis.Part of the deal will allow for Turkey to attempt to join the EU.Article.

April 3, 2014--P5+1 deal becomes a reality.
April 3/4, 2014--Will Turkey be on the official path to becoming an EU member?

No one in the EU wants Turkey to join the Union, but if Europe wants to buy Turkey's help, then they don't have much of a choice in the matter. This is going to end in disaster.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

I used to believe that the Feet of Iron an Clay was Revived Assyro-Bablylon, and that Nineveh was Mystery Babylon, but now I'm convinced that the Feet are Revived Byzantium and Holy Rome. Mystery Babylon would then by Istanbul/Constantinople. Turkey was the founding of Rome before the Lydians sailed to Italy. It was also once known to the Assyrian empire as the land of Magog under the rule of Gyges (Gog/Gugu).

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

By the way, I noticed this pattern last night, now we have these attacks in Brussels...looks like pressure to push Europeans to seek help from Turkey. Like herding sheep.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

I know Eschatological interpretations abound but perhaps the seat of Satan being in Pergamos will end up having a literal end times fulfillment. Perhaps the Antichrist will literally be from Pergamos (Bergama).

a reply to: Josephus
That is an interesting thought, though I personally believe that the Beast (who we call the antichrist) is no man walking among us today, but Apollyon, who rises from the Abyss. When he does rise, I believe he will take the name of Adonicam (meaning 'the god who rises' in Hebrew), who had 666 descendants to his name. So whoever is responsible for reviving Rome, will be the 7th head of the dragon (the one who is for a short while), and will pass the kingdom off to Apollyon.

Rev 17:8“The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and go to destruction.

Apollyon is the one who rises from the abyss (Rev 9:11).

Rev 17:10and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.

The 7th Head must exist for a short while before the Beast arrives.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

I don't quite agree with you.

You have to accept that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and will sell them to anyone for money - so Saudi can get weapons any time it likes and probably already has them. The deal for Iran merely balances the nuclear deterrent which is needed if you don't want one or two nasty countries dictating the odds to the rest of the ME. Face it Iran has never threatened the West and indeed was an ally its only Israeli translations of their leaders speeches that spread that kind of propaganda and no one questions Israel's nuclear arsenal - although its well time they did.

Also regarding Turkey and Nebuchadnezzar's dreams etc so much superstition and only one perspective. Turks go to Germany to work ordinarily so its really down to Turkey getting a share of the EU's budget that is the real issue concerning motive for membership - money for nothing as usual for countries that join till they realise the true cost as with Greece etc.

It is utterly amazing that EU leaders didn't see this huge influx of gimme's coming over the border with the foreign policies and interference in ME countries they enabled and enacted alongside the USA. In fact its the reason why we need completely new governments without naive or corrupt people sitting in them.

Someone thinks its a good idea to try to start a civil war across Europe and too much more immigration with be the trigger because so manny now are utterly fed up and the Belgium bombings are just the tip of an iceberg that is going to crash sooner rather than later with the demand for deportation of a lot of these questionable refugees.

Its not the fault of the average person that their governments are corrupt and stupid, but the average person makes up the majority in any country and push them too far and unrest will follow, even in the UK which is usually pretty accepting but we are a step over what many people think is acceptable attitude and behaviour. Things are going too far.

Chris White gives one of the best studies on Mystery Babylon from Revelation . Jerusalem is the clearest candidate as that is where the Prophets were killed and where our Lord was crucified .

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Why would the Beast attack his own followers? The locusts are commanded to attack those without the seal of God in their foreheads. I don't really see any biblical evidence that Abaddon is a nefarious character.

I don't know how to word the above in a way that doesn't sound confrontational and rude. I'm not trying to be. Just talking.

Also I mean nefarious in the sense of working with Satan. Abaddon seems to be following God's orders. The trumpets are God's wrath after all.

a reply to: Josephus

While I find your point to make sense, what about the beast being thrown into the bottomless pit? Or are you saying that Abaddon is not in league with the dragon and beast?


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Though at the same time, maybe the adversary isn't interested in followers so much as leading people away to their destruction. That would just mean that he's hell bent on keeping people away from God to prove his point. Jealousy perhaps.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

This makes no sense at all. The Turks conquered the Byzantine Empire, they didn't become it.

a reply to: StallionDuck

Well I was saying that Abaddon is not in league with Satan and the Beast. I would suggest this could be the angel spoken of in 1 Corinthians 10:10 and Exodus 12:23.

Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. 1 Corinthians 10:10

For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
Exodus 12:23

a reply to: Josephus


I follow you now. It's possible. There were always angels of the lord that did all the killing when it was needed. So yeah, I can see that. Same as the 4 horsemen. Some look at them as though they are evil, but they were commanded by the will of God, so not so much evil as the heavy hand of what was called upon for a purpose.

a reply to: Josephus

I view Apollyon's rise as an invasion of earth. He attacks non-believers because he is taking control of the nations and thinning the flocks...'who can make war with the Beast'.

Why else would Apollyon kill the Two Witnesses unless he was working with Satan.

Turkey is a great nation and should be admitted into the EU.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Daniel's prophecy is a rip off of the dream of Zoroaster. It can't be used to accurately predict the future. Revelation is based off Daniel and also is not a reliable way to predict the future.

We are all supposed to be "chipped" with the "mark" according to religious fanatics who read books like this and try and match it with events in their own time.

I am not buying it. Foolish belief system that looks for signs of the end. The book of Revelation is a vision, a dream a hallucination or fiction. None of which means it taken seriously.

a reply to: Mazzini

Hey Metatron365, so good of you to join in on the conversation.

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest

...start a Muslim revolution to fulfill Islamic prophecy (taking over Rome)?...

And this Muslim prophecy could be found exactly where?

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

This link explains an interpretation of the prophecy. According to that interpretation, Constantinople would be conquered first (and has been) then the city of Rome.

originally posted by: Mazzini
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Daniel's prophecy is a rip off of the dream of Zoroaster. It can't be used to accurately predict the future. Revelation is based off Daniel and also is not a reliable way to predict the future.

We are all supposed to be "chipped" with the "mark" according to religious fanatics who read books like this and try and match it with events in their own time.

I am not buying it. Foolish belief system that looks for signs of the end. The book of Revelation is a vision, a dream a hallucination or fiction. None of which means it taken seriously.

Amen. Finally some intelligence in this thread.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Can you please explain it, rather than sending me to some muslim propaganda portal. As far as I know, the last prophet of Islam was its first, and its only prophet. Did Muhammed come with this prophecy and is it in the Koran or the Hadith? Or was it some random Ahmed who came up with this prediction?