Radical Islam is not coming to the US...it is already here

RADICAL ISLAM - This is not a fabrication. This is not something created by the MSM. It is real...and it is not on our doorstep but waiting to once again strike.

It is easy to reference 9/11 where over 3000 were killed to say that is where the "War with Radical Islam" started, but that would be false. They tried in 93 and did not accomplish what they wanted. This was what I will use as the first attack on US soil to garner a large amount of casualties. It was not the first though. To find what may be the first documented modern case you would need to go back to the early 70's. Realize, these early cases are attributed to the Nation of Islam but, it is, still Islam. It is the action of the followers we are looking at.

In 1973 an Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinians. 43 years ago. Let that sink in. Millennials were not even a glimmer if daddy's eye in some cases. This is not new. There were dozens of isolated incidents until 93 when 6 people were killed and over 1000 were injured in the NYC bombing of the WTC. This was just over 20 years ago. In 1989 an honor killing was performed because a Muslim was dating an African American. Bet you do not know about that one either. There are dozens of suspected honor killings.

People forget the Palestinian who shot up the Empire State building. They forget the deaths of police officers ambushed.

Since 9/11, the largest attack on US soil was Boston and the bombings by the brothers. Since then, there have been multiple attacks. You have had Ft Hood...LA airport... Chattanooga... San Bernadino...Garland Texas...College in Merced CA...the beheading of a fellow employee in Oklahoma City...Philadelphia in January of this year a cop shot point blank in cold blood.

Why are we still turning a blind eye?

Today's attacks in Belgium is the latest warning that the threat is here and it will reveal itself soon. What are we as a nation ready to do to protect ourselves as a nation to stop this senseless violence? Why are we being so conditioned to simply allow it to happen...do you know the answer?


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I'm not saying anything but..... so is radical Christian religions. And to add so is trump.

a reply to: Cloudbuster

How often do we hear about radical Christian groups killing in the name of their God in recent times?

Its the same old BS. NO Christian blah blah, US blah blah. Tump blah blah.

When we are up our own ass and cant see REALITY for what it is.

Whatever.

Vote Tump and bring a realist to power. Do it silently and leave them to bitch and moan.

They are turning a blind eye because they don't want to be labeled as racists!

originally posted by: conz1992
a reply to: Cloudbuster

How often do we hear about radical Christian groups killing in the name of their God in recent times?

Despite being bigger news in the 80s and 90s, often enough.

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There's also McVeigh, who carried out the worst attack on American soil up until 9/11.
As well the attack on the Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012 as well as a rash of islamophobic vandalism along the way.

Are radical Christians preferable?

In all fairness, Islamic Extremists are recruiting indigenous kids as well. Social media is the tool they're using, and most parents wouldn't know what sites are cool with the kids.

a reply to: conz1992

How often do we hear about radical Christian groups killing in the name of their God in recent times?

Excellent point star for that, but the way it's going with radical Islam I'm not so sure we won't see the return of the Crusades.

I can hear Trumps numbers ticking up by the minute.

Flashback: New York Times mocked Trump for saying “there is something bad going on” in Brussels

originally posted by: Cloudbuster
I'm not saying anything but..... so is radical Christian religions. And to add so is trump.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

I will make sure to agree with you the next time Donald Trump blows himself up and kills 100s of innocent people. This could literally be the dumbest statement I have read on ATS in months.

a reply to: matafuchs

You are doing a disservice to the majority of Muslims who have no connection to terrorism and are no different than the previous immigrants and the ones before them who all want one thing: Freedom.

They don't want to commit suicide and go to heaven they want the right to exist and be happy, not easy in certain Middle east countries. You don't even ponder government complicity in certain acts of terror which cannot be ruled out.

Freedom is all immigrants want and why they come here. The Cartels of Mexico and central and South America are a bigger threat than radical Islam. Gang violence is an everyday occurence in most urban areas and has spread to the suberbs and inducts young children to the life so by the time they reach adulthood they have no conscience and don't care about jail or death.

a reply to: matafuchs

You are doing a disservice to the majority of Muslims who have no connection to terrorism and are no different than the previous immigrants and the ones before them who all want one thing: Freedom.

They don't want to commit suicide and go to heaven they want the right to exist and be happy, not easy in certain Middle east countries. You don't even ponder government complicity in certain acts of terror which cannot be ruled out.

Freedom is all immigrants want and why they come here. The Cartels of Mexico and central and South America are a bigger threat than radical Islam. Gang violence is an everyday occurence in most urban areas and has spread to the suberbs and inducts young children to the life so by the time they reach adulthood they have no conscience and don't care about jail or death.

a reply to: Nucleardoom

I'd love that, I feel like the only thing missing in my life right now is a valiant gallop on horseback in full metal armour. Sort out a problem like the good ol' days

a reply to: eNumbra

That's why I said recent times haha, since the OP is referring to the present. I did think maybe there's some stories I might of missed, but I mean what's vandalism to murder?

originally posted by: conz1992

a reply to: eNumbra

That's why I said recent times haha, since the OP is referring to the present. I did think maybe there's some stories I might of missed, but I mean what's vandalism to murder?

If OP can site back as far as the 70s I think the 90s and 2000s is more than recent enough.

And while vandalism isn't murder it's still a form of violence. It's just psychological in nature.

I feel the need to remind that one of the least talked about potential terrorist hotbeds in the US is Minneapolis.

Minnesota is home to the largest Somali community in the United States, and over the last six years, at least 22 Somali-American men have left the Twin Cities and joined al-Shabab, two of whom as recently as July 2012. These are only the confirmed cases; in fact, some community members say the number could be as high as 40. Dozens more from Minnesota and around the country have been indicted for providing material support to the terrorist group. Virtually all have been convicted. Many were inspired by recruitment videos like the one described above. Moreover, the FBI is “proceeding as if recruitment efforts are still occurring here in Minnesota,” according to Kyle Loven, a spokesman for the agency’s Minneapolis branch.

Minnesota is actually hoping for government funding to help combat the extremist problem!

A community advocate who spends his days helping Somali families and a youth soccer coach who works to keep kids off the street are among the people lining up for a crack at federal and private funds aimed at stopping terror recruiting. Friday was the deadline for applicants to request roughly $400,000 in money being administered by a nonprofit entity as part of Minnesota's efforts to stamp out violent extremism.

The program is part of a three-city pilot project, which includes Boston and Los Angeles, launched more than a year ago by the Obama administration. Minneapolis' program, called Building Community Resilience, focuses on the state's large Somali community, which has been fertile ground for terrorism recruiters. More than 22 men have left the state since 2007 to join al-Shabab in Somalia, and roughly a dozen people have left in recent years to join militants in Syria.

The reality of this just hasn't hit as hard as it has in Europe due to the sheer numbers over there. But the foundation here is being laid. Keep ignoring it and we're going to have an enormous problem on our hands.

a reply to: eNumbra

Get your facts straight.

McVeigh was a self-proclaimed agnostic who was raised in an atheist household.

In the letters, McVeigh insisted he has no fear of his execution. An agnostic, he said he will "improvise, adapt and overcome" if it turns out that there is an afterlife. "If I am going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company."

abcnews.go.com...

Edit: McVeigh was actually raised catholic but rejected it as an adult claiming "science is his god". I was confusing him with the atheist unabomber and his atheist parents.

a reply to: eNumbra

Oh I must of missed that, sorry. And yeah I guess if it's racial slurs/pictures that have been scrawled across houses/mosques, I wouldn't compare it with murder though. I suppose though there's more American on American killings per year so I'd worry about that first if I were American

originally posted by: Mazzini
a reply to: matafuchs

You are doing a disservice to the majority of Muslims who have no connection to terrorism and are no different than the previous immigrants and the ones before them who all want one thing: Freedom.

They don't want to commit suicide and go to heaven they want the right to exist and be happy, not easy in certain Middle east countries. You don't even ponder government complicity in certain acts of terror which cannot be ruled out.

Freedom is all immigrants want and why they come here. The Cartels of Mexico and central and South America are a bigger threat than radical Islam. Gang violence is an everyday occurence in most urban areas and has spread to the suberbs and inducts young children to the life so by the time they reach adulthood they have no conscience and don't care about jail or death.

You are a big part of this problem right now. The OP said RADICAL ISLAM. not Islam. Unless you don't see a difference, you are being disingenuous. If it becomes "taboo" to mention Islam in any sense, then we will be setting ourselves up for an even bigger fall when you can't mention a group by name for fear of being beaten with the PC stick.

If this was radical Christians, I assure you nobody would have a second thought to mention that group by name, and rightfully so. Radical (any group) is a problem.

If you are a peace loving person, you have nothing to worry about. If you identify with terrorists, well, then you have a big problem. Put your PC card back in your wallet.

a reply to: conz1992

I'd love that, I feel like the only thing missing in my life right now is a valiant gallop on horseback in full metal armour. Sort out a problem like the good ol' days

A modern crusade would be nothing like that and much, much worse than the previous ones. Imagine if you will a heavily armed inner city riot, now imagine that chaos being directed towards a specific group and allowed to roam freely beyond the city limits.