Police Officer talks about his experience at Trump's rally in Tucson: AWESOME!

a reply to: Gryphon66

Thats just absurd. LoL

You could at least be a little more reserved with the spin. It makes it blatent.

If he was behind in most polls, the MSM would not be trying to end his run....which causes them to up the effort because he is probably going to win

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

He is ahead in most polls.

Not true in any stretch of the imagination. Show us these polls please.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

Didnt those same polls show him behind in states he already has in the bag?

Which polls are you referring to?

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

Polling is absurd before an election

Possibly, but you have presented ZERO proof of that claim.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

Allot of it tries to swing votes by painting a person as losing.

Like what happened to Ron Paul.

He was ahead in most, and the MSM kept polling him as being behind

The end of your post, no offense intended, wanders off into vagarity ... what does that have to do with Trump?

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

Thats just absurd. LoL

You could at least be a little more reserved with the spin. It makes it blatent.

If he was behind in most polls, the MSM would not be trying to end his run....which causes them to up the effort because he is probably going to win

What is absurd? What spin are you referring to?

Address the facts presented or present some that back up your wild claims.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: tadaman

That is FAR from 1/3. That is almost everyone not fooled by Hillary.

Also she is going to jail.

In every poll you care to name, Democrats outnumber Republicans and both are outnumbered by Independents. Party Identification - Pew Research

Waving your hands at the fact that in an overwhelming number of polls of the American public, Donald Trump has a 66-67% DISAPPROVAL RATING, is meaningless.

Here is an example of MSM polls. LOL

They list Clinton as being ahead of Trump one on one....and that is the most absurd thing next to reptile alien royalty.

www.realclearpolitics.com...

here again

elections.huffingtonpost.com...

Here is an article that shows that out of a good sample of 700 Bernie voters, 500 said they would vote for Trump.
www.theguardian.com...
That is simply the fact. All pundits worth a damn and long standing standards of US politics agree that without Bernie, that Trump would get Bernies votes. That is incontestable. There are plenty more where that came from. BUT REALLY, just ask a Sanders supporter.

here is a poll showing bernie on a sharp rise against Clinton

elections.huffingtonpost.com...

SO Bernie is mostly not showing in polls against Clinton because he is winning in most against her. He is showing a SHARP climb against her in the ones that do show him VS her.

What this means is that Bernie´s voters would beat Clinton and barring him winning an election, and it coming down to Clinton VS Trump, That Trump would get HIS VOTERS.

SO yes, absurd.

TRUMP!!!!

Here is a good article showing why Sanders will beat clinton

edition.cnn.com...

Here is one showing how Bernie could lose but still beat Clinton

www.newyorker.com...

So if Bernie is the strongest against Clinton, and his voters would go to Trump based entirely on his economic plan what does that tell you should it come down to a Clinton VS Trump race?

Here is an article showing how and why polls fail to be accurate.

www.washingtonpost.com...

The polls showed trump as being behind in the Iowa, yet he won?

So what does that tell you about the validity of polls?

Here is an excellent article showing why millions of average Americans support Trump

www.theguardian.com...

Basically it shows that people are not being affected by being called bigots for supporting Trump. They are more angry at the political class like Clinton.

Also, most people that support Trump are not typical politically minded people who would even participate in a poll.

They will quietly vote for him and and be done with it.

What is certain is that Clinton needs to pull dirty tricks because if not it would be a Trump VS Bernie election...completely

if you look at a map of the US in a red state VS blue state comparison most are red states and blue states are highly populated states.

The majority are republican NOW, allot are swing states.

So being that Trump is ahead of all other republican candidates, and how the democratic votes are mostly going to Bernie, it should be a Trump VS Sanders race.

What is happening is that Hillary is not stepping down and she will try to get Bernie out. This will give Trump the remaining majority of the highly populated democratic states since allot like NY are already his.


TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!

a reply to: Gryphon66

And those independent votes, without Bernie would go to TRUMP based entirely on his economic plan.

AND Bernie is subject to Clinton since she is the corruptions favorite. He will be forced out by her.

THEN Trump will get the independent vote since BOTH parties are seen to hate him because his economic plan is diametrically opposed to both....which is motivates most independents /moderates.

Thanks for the hate!!!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

Now you see why they are all so nervous about Trump and are forced to dedicate the entirety of MSM against him 24/7

Which actually helps him.

LOL

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

a reply to: tadaman

Well, no one can say you're not devoted to your hero.

Enjoy the screen scroll, True Believer! LOL.

a reply to: Gryphon66

That is not contesting my information you asked for.

You make it personal. Why?

I am like any good american, worried about Clinton being elected. She is criminal. I would LOVE it if Bernie beat her. I wouldnt mind the poverty of Bernie over the corruption of Clinton.

The only one that speaks to our future though is Trump. Only logical choice if you ask me.

BUT since Clinton is going to pull all her dirty little tricks Bernie will be robbed, and his voters will go to Trump.

Then Clinton, will run out of money, ruin herself politically, and probably during Trumps inauguration will be escorted by FBI agents to a holding cell, where her many calls to corrupt friends will go unanswered....in fact they will be mad at her for reaching out to them in that situation.

She is only trying so hard to get elected because its her only way out of jail at this point.

a reply to: tadaman

Did I make it personal? Sorry, didn't mean to hurt your feelings by simply acknowledging your clearly apparent and overwhelming love for "The Donald."

You made seven posts in a row speaking to nothing I had claimed, most of which ended with breathless gasps of "Trump Trump Trump" ...

I just cleared out to give you plenty of space and privacy to worship. LOL.

But I can catch up without too much trouble ....

In your first post after mine above, you make a spurious claim that "MSM polls" can't be right. Why? Because they don't say what you want them to say. You're simply denying reality. The polls show the OPPOSITE of your claims and your droning "Trumping."

Then you wander into false equivalencies showing Sanders doing better than Clinton in a poll here and there, and claim that somehow shows that he will win the nomination, even though Clinton leads in delegates almost 2-1. More denial.

Post two, more of the same.

Post three, "polls are no good because occasionally an opinion poll doesn't predict the future." Yeah, if we'd listened to Karl Rove's polls in Ohio in 2012 Mr. Romney would be President eh? If that was the measure you'd be right. But you're not. Wonk Wonk Waaaaah.

A couple of non-predictive poll results does not mean that the thousands of scientific polls conducted on an annual basis are meaningless; another swing and a miss.

Post four, "most states are red so that means there are more Republicans overall" ... except, there are about 15 times more people in New York City than in Wyoming, for example, but because a state has 10 more republicans in it and gets colored "red," you think this means there are more Republicans nationwide ... yet, EVERY MEASURE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS SAYS OTHERWISE. But we should believe you, rather than pay attention to the facts. Right.

Post five, you're still arguing about Bernie and Clinton, corruption this, MSM that.

Post six, because Bernie will beat Clinton in your world therefore Trump will win. "Waaadaafaaa???"

And post seven, round and round we go, bash bash Clinton, Hoooray Trump, whine whine, MSM, corruption.

That sums it up I think. Next?

a reply to: Gryphon66

but where is your evidence?

a reply to: tadaman

For what?

That your posts say what they say?

Look up.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You have failed to back up your claims with anything verifiable.

If you do not have evidence then you are the sole source for what you say.

That is a weak argument.

So my verifiable evidence stands against your sole claim as a source-


To recap,

Trump will win. Hillary is a criminal who sent protesters to crash Trump events via BLM and other social engineering groups paid for by Soros funding, and tried to blame it on Sanders

She will go to jail and needs to win the election to avoid prison.

Trump is the target of an all out media blitz against him because there is a real danger that he will win, as I have shown and you have not contested, and his supporters are not violent rather the opposition to him is, and ultimately Trump will be president because of this.

The violence was limited to isolated marginal incidents which were blown out of proportion by said media blitz and instigated by said paid agitators, because MSM is owned by bilderbergers and they stand to lose greatly should Trump win...

Also, the character attacks on him by MSM are his words taken out of context, since his policies are sound and only superficially negative because once you research and learn what he is proposing you see he is the only candidate that best represents the common solution to our national concerns in a balanced and fair way, very much in line with our ethos as a nation.

a reply to: tadaman

I haven't failed at all. The evidence is for my claims is very clear, and directly present: the posts of yours that I referenced on this page.

This is a very odd sort of obfuscation ... make ridiculous statements that are obviously counter to the readily-available truth.

Trump may indeed win, although it seems very unlikely given that at this point, a majority of Americans find him unacceptable for many reasons, and if he does that is the American democratic republic in action. America will survive Trump.

Hillary Clinton will not, however, be in jail. This is a right-wing fantasy that simply is not coming to fruition.

Trump is a "target" of the media because that's exactly what Trump wants to be. He expertly puts himself there. He is, I would admit, very good at being the braying ass in a tin barn. "No coverage is bad coverage" is the Trump belief so he and his team continually manipulate circumstances to keep him in the news cycle.

The only ones terrified by a Trump candidacy are the Washington Republicans, as they are finally rightly appalled to see the incarnation of decades of innate racism, hate-mongering, divisiveness and bloviated nonsense reach Trump proportions.

As far as I'm concerned, they made their bed, they can lie in the filth.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Well since we are now straying away from verifiable sources and delving into personal philosophy and a sort of prophesy, lets see who is the better prophet.

The idea of Trump is greater than him or his possible political appeal.

The notion brewed for long in all of our hearts that the end of the reign over our lives will come to a head. It was always a certainty considering the entirety of human existence and our collective history.

What we see now and that which makes ALL take notice is the head is decloaking and revealing itself like never before beyond its veil. The face is now known and the eyes we look into only embolden us. The information age which was inevitable has drawn to humanity a proximity unto itself. We know of the schemes, the malice, the agendas. THE NAME. We know in one form or the other like always we have known.

Now those pieces are coming together to form an entity that no cabal or court or king has ever known. A totality of humanity aware of itself.

Trump is what he represents because there is a will now to lose everything if that is the need because we see that we have nothing to lose anyways.

They can kill and torture our loved ones, send us to die or bring those murderers to us through war or terrorism, dismantle our wealth and our prosperity and barter it off to the world....but ultimately it is as nothing. The game is already lost for them.

Too many mistakes have been made and since loyalty was first for them it will be the first to fall. It was not loyalty but fear. If any human has feared he has learned to overcome that fear once the whip of its uncertainty is as the wind of every day that passes and subsides. The pain is no longer the greatest thing we feel. We felt nothing, numb to the world they imposed on us.,

Now, the pain that followed the fear has turned into something beyond hate that they can control. Perhaps out of spite we do not hate them because we know they would wish it.

We have become more. It truly is without words.

Trump could die, be robbed of the election and they could enthrone Hillary. The end result of not abdicating in honor will be the shredding of all that is their world in disgrace. That is why I made the prophesy of Trumps inauguration day.

It will be symbolic in many forms. It will be a restoration of some and a fall from grace of others. This is not something that can be interfered with. It is based on forces they do not control. It is that totality of humanity aware of itself that has been avoided like rain, like the rising sun, or the moon in its circuits. It is a force of human nature they never understood because they are not common and so blessed to know it.

The idea of true freedom and the nuances of its method and form are complete in the minds of the common man.

There is only obstruction on their part, like damns holding back the tides. Time is irrelevant. There is no closing this Pandora box

The will to break the wage slavery, the castration of common ethos, and the hold over our minds is complete. Its final permutation is already under way.

SO while they may destroy what could be our first true leader in a long time, they can not destroy the people that birthed him. They can not destroy the spirit that fills us all.

There will be peace if they accept that this is the end of their age. That this is the start of a new golden age for all. We will end EVERYTHING that has made our world a tomb of life and liberty.

It can be resisted, but that is like resisting the current before you are drowned in it.

We will not tire. We will not ever lose too much. We will not ever relent. THIS is now our nature. They have never ruled over such as us.

This is our war and it is strong,

All enemies of fate beware, our destiny is already decreed. You are foolish to lament the tides of fate. We are the sailors of the seas of destiny that WE DECREE. Its currents known to us like the torrent of our hearts and our blood we shoot like sacrificial cannons into the the belly of hell itself. Deep into the soul of the abyss are we aimed and facing. Our eyes steady. Our hand firm. Our course set-

Pretty cool huh?

a reply to: tadaman

No one is "straying from verifiable sources." You made posts, I referenced those posts and commented upon them.

Aside from that fact, you have OPINIONS as do I. SO?

The only pretend prophet here is you, by your own comments. You seem to believe that polls are the equivalent of tea-leaves or a crystal ball; they are not. Polls are measures of public OPINION.

As is this very subjective rendition of human history that you present here, that is another OPINION, one that, clearly for everyone to see, is based on what can only be called a religious belief. This is very clear evidence for why I referred to you earlier, not unkindly but merely descriptively, as a True Believer.

You words echo those of other cult followers and religious extremists world wide.