Bilderberger Says Trump Is A Planted Shill

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I still say that logic dictates that Bernie is the Establishment's choice. He has the biggest spending plan and wants to give the government the most power. The Establishment will profit in every way from that kind of spending and that kind of power.

Except for all the billionaires and corporations who would be paying more in taxes. Oops. Sanders is the Establishment's nightmare. Tighter regulation on businesses, higher taxes on the wealthy, an end to the health insurance industry... he might even tax Churches! No matter, he could never win, and if he did, Congress would never pass any of his legislation and impeach him if he did it by executive order.

a reply to: humanityrising

Well, I must say, that Trump is a wonderful distraction (in fact the whole election circus) from the Trans-Pacific Partnership ratification that is proceeding a pace.

originally posted by: humanityrising
a reply to: DJW001

I have no idea. It really feels like the people have zero control and I couldn't possibly come up with the logistics to successfully gain any of it back

Sounds about right to me.

I don't try to pretend.

I am curious why Hillary.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: MotherMayEye


I don't agree. Bernie wants to raise the taxes of the rich too high.

He is not their candidate...Its Hillary or Rubio or any of the other GOP candidates.

So what? If Congress can spend $18 trillion under Bernie, there will be plenty of money finding its way to the rich.

ETA: And, BTW, the Establishment is not going to let the masses know who their candidate is. They are so dastardly and sneaky, it's likely the candidate you would least suspect...just like Obama.

I remember how he was pushed as an outsider and anti-Establishment, too.

Remember...Hillary won the popular vote in the 2008 DNC primary. But thanks to her leaving her name on the Michigan ballot, Obama took 600,000 of her votes in Michigan and he won the nomination.

People think the obvious is the truth. I have been around long enough to know that the masses are clueless as to what is really going on with these two corrupt parties. Bernie is The Chosen One, 2.0.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I still say that logic dictates that Bernie is the Establishment's choice. He has the biggest spending plan and wants to give the government the most power. The Establishment will profit in every way from that kind of spending and that kind of power.

Except for all the billionaires and corporations who would be paying more in taxes. Oops. Sanders is the Establishment's nightmare. Tighter regulation on businesses, higher taxes on the wealthy, an end to the health insurance industry... he might even tax Churches! No matter, he could never win, and if he did, Congress would never pass any of his legislation and impeach him if he did it by executive order.

Again, so what?

If Congress can divert trillions from Bernie's $18 trillion plan for America into the pockets of the wealthy, higher taxes are NOTHING they fear.

And we all know Congress cannot be trusted to spend money. They always divert spending to the rich. Higher taxes? LOLOLOLOL!

DP

Wouldn't trust what a Bilderberger says for more than a few reasons but if there's anything to it would make more sense in the dog and pony show. If not, it may be that's the intent to have the word out there because they don't want him in. Though, I'm really on the fence about Trump as to being a plant. On one hand he's really upsetting them or so it appears to be. It could be is he just playing the game ensuring a win for Hillary.

a reply to: humanityrising

Congrats. This is THE most ridiculous piece of anti-Trump garbage I have ever read...

originally posted by: lovebeck
a reply to: humanityrising

Congrats. This is THE most ridiculous piece of anti-Trump garbage I have ever read...

Oh yes.

Let's defend Trump at all cost.

He is so deserving.

originally posted by: lovebeck
a reply to: humanityrising

Congrats. This is THE most ridiculous piece of anti-Trump garbage I have ever read...

You're welcome, just pay it forward please.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: DutchMasterChief

I said that there has to be a candidate that is an actual danger to the establishment that would require puppet candidates to make sure he doesn't win.

No, you said:

The only logical reason I can think for the establishment to make use of puppet candidates is to ensure that the presidency is not won by an anti-establishment candidate.

So who is the anti-establishment candidate that has to be kept out of the white house?

Bernie Sanders is the anti-Establishment candidate, but since he is un-electable, there is no need for a puppet candidate. Trump is the real deal, he is in it for himself.

ETA: I should have expressed that more clearly the first time.

You should have, because again, this is exactly the point I was making.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: humanityrising
a reply to: DJW001

I have no idea. It really feels like the people have zero control and I couldn't possibly come up with the logistics to successfully gain any of it back

Sounds about right to me.

I don't try to pretend.

I am curious why Hillary.

It's been decided a while ago (probably) that Hillary is to be the first female American POTUS. We've now had an African American POTUS -- now it's time to get a woman in the office. I think originally it was supposed to be Hillary, and "they" (whoever TPTB are) did a switcharoo, and had her wait 8 years.

I think its all about breaking social barriers -- we've been seeing a lot of that lately from LGBT marriage to marijuana legalization across the country.

This explains why Hillary is so confident when she speaks, and why she's pouring money earlier than she normally would into the campaign to stop Bernie. SHE was PROMISED it was to be her turn this time -- and she'll be damned if anyone is going to stop her.

As much as I don't like the idea of another Clinton presidency -- I'm fairly certain its written in stone. Somehow, Hillary will knock Sanders out of the race...despite Sanders seeming to be gaining momentum every day. TPTB have probably got some sneaky tricks up their sleeve to thwart Sanders...and quite possibly using Trump as a plant (as the OP indicated) ...

Having people like Obama and Hillary in the White House simply "outs" the most extreme and radical conservatives in the country. It pisses them off badly -- to the point where they do and say insane things. Their words and actions make them look extreme, ignorant and crazy ... it helps to push a more progressive agenda, by making conservatives look silly, irrelevant and antiquated.

Do to maximum damage to the conservatives, putting someone like Obama and Hillary in the White House is a sure-fire way to make them say/do outrageous things...a great way to make them loose credibility in the eyes of moderate folks.

Sneaky strategy, eh? We're seeing it at work right now with phase 1 nearly complete (Obama) ... and phase 1.5 with Trump is currently underway. If Hillary becomes POTUS (god forbid!), phase 2 of the plan will be in full swing...

Feels like some actually violent factions might be forming and interacting with each other in the near future. I wonder if fomenting that is part of Trump's m.o.(assuming he's a shill), considering recent events. If this starts happening, and regularly, we can kiss civil liberties goodbye for good. If this is what the FEMA camps, Orwellian spying networks, NDAA, and militarization of police were put into place for and have been leading up to, dear god...and with Hillary as potus too...the S could HTF. Just remember WW1 was started by ONE assassination. That's all it takes for Pandora's box to open. One catalyst.

Or this could all just blow over.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Ugh! Typed a whole thing out, then the 8 year old came by and pulled up one of his sites erasing the whole thing. Oh well, his Chromebook .

Anyway, I completely agree with you.

Everything depends on what perspective you choose to look from. I'm one of the few who tends to look at the larger picture, not just my own porch.

I do believe Hillary got bumped for Obama. Once he got on the radar I believe he was groomed (logical/practical IMO). It was timing. He was in the right place at the right time to have a charismatic black president. He might have done better with more experience - - but, you just can't pass up a "window".

The Clinton's are a power political couple, no doubt about that. Hillary has always been politics. IMO she is actually the power in that partnership. Bill has the charm. I believe fear of his ability to connect with the people scared certain factions. No authoritarian wants a "people's president". He had to lose his luster. To me the email thing is a witch hunt. As I've said, no matter who you investigate you will find human error. It doesn't seem to me there wasn't any intent of wrong doing.

I am a globalist (legit, not NWO conspiracy) because IMO it is the only logical evolution. We are on this insignificant rock in a vast universe. IMO the whole is more important then the individual. So, how does one "manage" billions of people all wanting whats individually important to themselves? I always say its not When, but How and Who controls this planet. For me its about the health of the planet itself.

Conservatives? A real conservative would not be wasting time on the pettiness of people's sex lives and choices in reproduction.

I agree with breaking down social barriers. What a waste of time, energy, money, etc. The amount of money used to fight marriage equality is asinine.

As far as a Bernie type being president? It's too late. That should have happened before Bush "W". What happened with the "Cheney" presidency can not be undone IMO. It changed the "game".

Oops! Guess I need to put Trump in here. It could very well be he has been instructed to "stir the pot". Its hard to say though, with his ego, just how much he can be controlled. He is a bully. He creates an atmosphere of "bully energy". He attracts a certain aggressive type (from both sides). He's like a thorn. For me, a globalist, what he brings I don't want. I'll take Hillary.

That's a lot of talking for me . Doesn't happen often.

ANNEE

a reply to: intrptr

Yes...she's no "liberal"...shes an insider player..perfect for the role...fooled you, didn't she?

a reply to: humanityrising

I just have one problem with the story. If the "power elite" are that powerful, why not just rig the election? No need for Trump to be a shill if you control the outcome of that.

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: humanityrising

I just have one problem with the story. If the "power elite" are that powerful, why not just rig the election? No need for Trump to be a shill if you control the outcome of that.

The states control their own election systems. I can only imagine that it's extremely difficult to hijack every state's election system. Anything not hijacked would need to be manipulated.

And if the global elite do control enough states to rig an election, they still need to make the outcome appear plausible.

nm

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: humanityrising

I just have one problem with the story. If the "power elite" are that powerful, why not just rig the election? No need for Trump to be a shill if you control the outcome of that.

They are; Hillary will be the next president no matter how little support she actually has. The hypothesis is that Drumpf is distracting from all of her scandals. Also, if there wasn't this crazy circus happening, people would have time to focus on other really messed up things going on with government, and that too wouldn't be good.

OP.... too good info to be true. Its a set up. the guy was smooth to get you to believe this.