Bilderberger Says Trump Is A Planted Shill

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: humanityrising

Interesting but I think Trump is not under there control, oh I do think he PROBABLY is a member.

If there is a problem for the Bilderberghers it is that whatever name they once called themselves some of them are probably getting uncomfortable about him because they do not have ABSOLUTE control over him.

I don't think he is a good guy or a bad guy but he is a loose cannon and that must have them worried, while the US constitution prevents another hitler he still does pose the threat of putting some of there plan's back but as is the way with any group this will cause internal friction because he is like we say over here in britain like marmite, you love or hate the guy and as far as the bilderberghers individual plans go while he probably threatens some of them with delay others he will undoubtedly advance which may lead to a coup in the hydra as one head gains priority and new status over the others as a result toppling there current king.

Now as for the bilderberghers themselves, a major natural catastrophy like an accidental - natural- nuclear explosion under there isolated austrian or swiss retreats would probably cause a short term stock market crash and since some beloved (Pun intended) head's of state would also be likely tragic casualtys of such an event some country's would have a moments silence but the world in general would be unlikely to notice there passing.

They rule the show only while they are in control or at least think that they are and there are many other similar but inferior groups of despots waiting, just waiting the opportunity to take there place.

The ONLY cure for them is the one they actually fear the most.

An EDUCATED PUBLIC AWARE OF THERE POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, SOCIAL and LEGAL STATUS
And
A FREE, UNCENSORED AND OPEN PRESS NOT OWNED BY BILDERBERGHER LACKYS.

Democracy helps but only when these other two criteria are met.

As long as the sheep are dumb they are easily controlled.
As long as the sheep think the slaughter house is that bale of hay in front of them they will continue up the ramp to there own death.


Personally this is my take, they die, I die, they think they have power but it is fleeting and illusory, even if they learn to extend there lives it will be in a state in which there mind's will deterioriate.

Your friend whom help's people is by far the more intelligent of the two brother's.

With all of Trumps money, I can't imagine him not being part of the Bilderburg group. Which brings up a big contradiction. If Trump does belong to the group, he's not saying anything publicly. But with his lack of filter, I can't image him not bragging about being a member.

You just said that one thing the Bilderburgs fear is an open, unrestricted press. What did Trump just say recently about changing libel laws, which would restrict the press?

I really think Trump and Hillary are on the same side. His job is to divert voters from the Republican candidates using the most carefully researched , extremist dialog possible.

a reply to: humanityrising


Thanks for understanding what I am trying to get across.

I acknowledge what you are saying and I have considered this scenario before. From this we can at least conclude that Trump is not there specifically to make Hillary win but he is there to strenghten the illusion of choice by being a candidate that represents popular sentiment.

In this scenario it wouldn't really matter who wins since they are all puppets controlled by a shadow government.

The thing is, I see all these people opposing Trump but they don't seem to realise that if Trump doesn't win, it is probably going to be Hillary, who is also a controlled puppet.

Is this the whole point then?

Color me not surprised
It is all theater, smoke and mirrors.

You do not get to Trumps level in wealth and business without collaborating with a lot of other people at the high end.
Trumps softening on his H1B stance and talking to the head CFR where he will get his marching orders was enough to turn me off on him. He also supports more police state measures and less freedoms.

It is such a shame because I was hoping he was genuine but his script sounds more and more like it was created by the same people that created Obama's Script. By the Big Think Tanks in this country that can feel the pulse of the nation.

"Tell them what they want to hear" and then once in office, continue where Obama left off.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
If an agent of Bilderberg is saying that about Trump, then you should know for sure that Trump is the one to support.

Anyone who has attended Bilderberg are all sellouts to the common law abiding citizen.

No you don't get it.

He's saying Trump is in on the scam to help Hillary get elected

originally posted by: humanityrising
a reply to: DJW001

In my opinion, no one I guess...

Until people learn how aggressively and unilaterally propagandized they are, a la Edward Bernays etc, we're screwed imo. Too many people still believe the system isn't completely rigged from top to bottom, and if what this gentleman had to say is true, the level of manipulation is almost unfathomable to anyone unfamiliar with Machiavellian techniques, the science of population control, Tavistock, etc. everyone takes the blue pill because the red pill's implications are terribly dark, and we can't have that be our reality now can we.

I guess it would be more the case of being naive if people did not think there are wealthy and powerful interests that do everything to protect it. There really is no conspiracy needed to explain that because it is human nature.

When Corporations get big and wealthy enough, they go to the government to protect or expand their interests and use the media to their advantage.
When you have billions and billions of dollars like the top wealthy families, they will use everything at their disposal to expand and protect their wealth and power. Again, there is no conspiracy needed to explain it, just human nature, and they need to be taken down a notch because their meddling is detrimental to this and many other nations.

a reply to: CantStandIt

An absolutely stellar and well thought out response. I agree with what you say. But the only thing I ever said in the thread was that the whole premise of it was based on the idea that Trump was a Bilderberg insider, and I saw no evidence at all of that.

Does that mean he isn't? Absolutely not, but here is the thing, are we not giving this story too much credit? Are we seriously saying that they have somehow created the whole Trump persona and current polarising split in American politics, all because of a "I got told this story by some guy, whose name shall remain secret" thread?

I don't know man, but your response was a pleasure to read.

I'm not buying this "Trump is there to make sure Hillary gets elected" theory. I mean, why go through all of this when Hillary would have absolutely smoked any of the other GOP candidates in a general election? Cruz, Rubio, JEB!, Carson, etc. None of them would have stood a chance against Hillary. Trump is the only wild card that could potentially stop her from becoming POTUS. Also, the elites are doing everything to stop Trump from getting the GOP nomination. Sorry, it just doesn't make sense on any level.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: humanityrising

But Sanders has to beat Hillary first before there will be a situation in which you will have to choose between Trump and Sanders. Do you think this will happen?

What will you do if it is Hillary against Trump?

It will 100% be Hillary and Trump. It never was going to be anything else(assuming Trump is a shill).

Hillary WILL be our next president. It's going to go that way either way; if he's genuinely anti-establishment he won't be POTUS. If he is a distraction puppet then we still end up with the same results...the Clintons have been solidifying this dynasty for decades.

To me, Trump is very American, a Cowboy or a kind of J. R. Ewing

I'll be the first to admit that "I heard this from some guy in India" isn't the most plausible story ever. But. This is what he said, and the more I think about it the more it makes sense. Plus I know exactly the kind of scum his brother probably is, bragging about how we've been checkmated from the get-go.

Believe it. Don't believe it. Sure is entertaining though. It's not like your imagination has to run that wild for it to make sense.

a reply to: CantStandIt

This is absolutely true…


...Like a pool 9-ball tournament (as said in the great movie with Paul Newman and Tom Cruise,THE COLOR OF MONEY)
…when the official games are over it’s always in the back rooms where the big time money guys rack up the big cash and the suckers get taken for all their worth.


In this analogy we are the suckers, the goyim and sheep.


In the back rooms of Bilderberger is where they plan our destruction and enslavement.

a reply to: humanityrising

Hillary WILL be our next president. It's going to go that way either way; if he's genuinely anti-establishment he won't be POTUS.

Why not? Or rather, how, not?

A concerted effort from the entire mainstream media unlike anything I've ever seen to destroy Trump, his own party desperately trying to stop him from getting the nomination, etc. How all of these things going on could make you believe Trump is part of the elite's plan to get Hillary elected is beyond me. Also, like I said before, you're not going to convince me that anyone was afraid of controlled puppets like Cruz, Rubio or JEB! taking it away from Hillary.

HOW exactly does this make sense?

a reply to: humanityrising

My response is this unnamed Bilderberger is desperate. He's resorted to using so-called conspiracy theorist tactics. It's kind of amusing.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

I said that there has to be a candidate that is an actual danger to the establishment that would require puppet candidates to make sure he doesn't win.

No, you said:

The only logical reason I can think for the establishment to make use of puppet candidates is to ensure that the presidency is not won by an anti-establishment candidate.

So who is the anti-establishment candidate that has to be kept out of the white house?

Bernie Sanders is the anti-Establishment candidate, but since he is un-electable, there is no need for a puppet candidate. Trump is the real deal, he is in it for himself.

ETA: I should have expressed that more clearly the first time.

The two parties are controlled by the global elite. That includes the Bilderbergs. And that includes Trump and Sanders.

I still say that logic dictates that Bernie is the Establishment's choice. He has the biggest spending plan and wants to give the government the most power. The Establishment will profit in every way from that kind of spending and that kind of power.

Plus the Bilderbergs were founded by a Polish socialist, Joseph Retigner -- not that much unlike Bernie.

Hillary helped Obama win, in 2008, when she left her name on the Michigan ballot while Obama removed his. She will help Bernie win, too, with her email scandal. She won't see jail time but it will be just enough to end her campaign.

Trump will have alienated enough voting blocs to tank a general election run and throw the race to democrats. Never trust a lifelong liberal that married two communists and says he is a conservative. Trump cannot be trusted. No democrat nor republican can be trusted. The problem is the parties because they control the candidates...even Trump....even Bernie.

Just my .02¢.

a reply to: MotherMayEye


I don't agree. Bernie wants to raise the taxes of the rich too high.

He is not their candidate...Its Hillary or Rubio or any of the other GOP candidates.

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
If an agent of Bilderberg is saying that about Trump, then you should know for sure that Trump is the one to support.

Anyone who has attended Bilderberg are all sellouts to the common law abiding citizen.

No you don't get it.

He's saying Trump is in on the scam to help Hillary get elected

And you trust a Bilderberg sellout's words?

I do actually get it. Any publicly spewed statements by anyone who attends Bilderberg is nothing that anyone should trust in the slightest. Everything that Bilderberg does is out of bounds for any media to comment about. Nothing anyone says inside of those meetings are ever revealed unless someone betrays their personal mandatory oath to not say anything publicly, so anyone that says a word within Bilderberg is pure BS, and nothing but BS.

That lea

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
If an agent of Bilderberg is saying that about Trump, then you should know for sure that Trump is the one to support.

Anyone who has attended Bilderberg are all sellouts to the common law abiding citizen.

No you don't get it.

He's saying Trump is in on the scam to help Hillary get elected

And you trust a Bilderberg sellout's words?

I do actually get it. Any publicly spewed statements by anyone who attends Bilderberg is nothing that anyone should trust in the slightest. Everything that Bilderberg does is out of bounds for any media to comment about. Nothing anyone says inside of those meetings are ever revealed unless someone betrays their personal mandatory oath to not say anything publicly, so anyone that says a word within Bilderberg is pure BS, and nothing but BS.

That lea

Maybe the guy just let out a little secret…people do go against the grain once in a while.


Of course we don’t really know for sure one way or the other, granted, but it’s a good possibility.

Also, it appears they are getting less secretive and being bodily unafraid of their elite status

Its like:

That's right, we rule you slaves and what are you going to do about it

NOTHING!


And you know what?

Their right

we ain't gonna do a dam thing

man from Switzerland who comes from an extremely wealthy family.

Sounds like it's daddy's money his brother is enjoying but those with less are the losers? Par for the course opinion from a rich guy's son.