Speaking in tongues Real, or BS?

Yes I tend to agree. I love my parents and appreciate their goodwill and all they have done for me... but their beliefs really do make me question their sanity sometimes. I struggle with that actually.. they hold much wisdom, yet still take Noahs Ark literally...lol...

Whatchya gonna do?
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Tis real, I speak sort of Cherokee... Wachita....

My opinion and is that "speaking in tongues" was never supposed to mean unintelligible gibberish - it was intended to mean that ALL PEOPLE of ALL LANGUAGES could understand what the speaker is saying. That whichever language the speaker used would be heard by listeners "in their language" - just as clearly as everybody else would hear their own language.

As to the OP title:
It's BS.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
My opinion and is that "speaking in tongues" was never supposed to mean unintelligible gibberish - it was intended to mean that ALL PEOPLE of ALL LANGUAGES could understand what the speaker is saying. That whichever language the speaker used would be heard by listeners "in their language" - just as clearly as everybody else would hear their own language.

As to the OP title:
It's BS.

This is what makes sense to me. If no one can interpret it, it's nonsense.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
My opinion and is that "speaking in tongues" was never supposed to mean unintelligible gibberish - it was intended to mean that ALL PEOPLE of ALL LANGUAGES could understand what the speaker is saying. That whichever language the speaker used would be heard by listeners "in their language" - just as clearly as everybody else would hear their own language.

As to the OP title:
It's BS.

Biblically speaking, tongues had more than one purpose. In the book of Acts, the disciples spoke, and everyone heard them in their own language.
In the epistles, Paul speaks of one person prophesying in tongues, and someone else interpreting as they speak. In another place, the tongues spoken is unknown and is meant to be understood by god only.

a reply to: Klassified

In the book of Acts, the disciples spoke, and everyone heard them in their own language.

Yeah! Exactly that. That's what I thought it was.

As far as having an interpreter -- LOL!!! -- no. I've worked as an interpreter, I know how easy it is to just make up whatever you want instead of actually literally "translating" (ETA: I never did that, but was accused of it....and also heard it being done by others, and also read it. It's quite disturbing.) That's why I don't trust the Bible to begin with - too many 'translations', and even more 'interpretations.' It's BS. In my opinion.

a reply to: peppycat

If no one can interpret it, it's nonsense.

Yes - and if an interpreter claims to be doing so there is no guarantee they are being sincere.

If an interpreter is needed at all by ANY OTHER PERSON, the entire speech becomes suspect.

a reply to: network dude

I don't claim to know, and I've never personally witnessed it or experienced it myself.

I have had powerful spiritual experiences of different kinds that make me believe and believe deeply.

And I also have a friend who is a devout Catholic who claims to have had a Charismatic-style faith experience at a prayer meeting, and she is the most practical, pragmatic and down to earth person I know. She would be the very last person I would expect to lie, and as someone with a Master's in microbiology, she would also not be someone given to flights of fancy. If she says she was touched in some way, I believe she experienced something she cannot explain.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Klassified

In the book of Acts, the disciples spoke, and everyone heard them in their own language.

Yeah! Exactly that. That's what I thought it was.

As far as having an interpreter -- LOL!!! -- no. I've worked as an interpreter, I know how easy it is to just make up whatever you want instead of actually literally "translating". That's why I don't trust the Bible to begin with - too many 'translations', and even more 'interpretations.' It's BS. In my opinion.

LOL, like the telephone game. somehow the story never ends how it started. But I believe the Bible is a great tool for being a guide when life gives you questions, but like you, I don't think it's a history book.

a reply to: network dude

I'd take it about as seriously as the women fainting at Obama's campaign stops.

By that, I mean someone claiming to speak in tongues on Cruz's behalf. It's like any other self-anointed prophet speaking out for or against this or that politician these days. Maybe God is using some of them, but there are far more that he's not.

a reply to: network dude

i think theres a vast difference between what happens in Acts and what happens in some churches these days...

In Acts they spoke actual languages they previously didn't know...

they didn't just spit out jiberish like these morons on the second page...

a reply to: Akragon

LOL!!!!
"D'you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid?"

Hysterically funny.
Thanks for posting.


@ ket:

Maybe God is using some of them

If so, it's Sanders and Warren and the Pope and the Dalai Lama.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
LOL!!!!
"D'you eat a lot of paint chips when you were a kid?"

Yes.

Oh, wait, was that rhetorical?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

LOL!
*blows a kiss*

Did you watch the vid?

originally posted by: SteamyJeans
Yes I tend to agree. I love my parents and appreciate their goodwill and all they have done for me... but their beliefs really do make me question their sanity sometimes. I struggle with that actually.. they hold much wisdom, yet still take Noahs Ark literally...lol...

Whatchya gonna do?

I think that many of us are in the same boat.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
LOL!
*blows a kiss*

*catches it and does something obscene*

Did you watch the vid?

I did, very funny.

a reply to: UnBreakable

maybe they are scatmen?

a reply to: network dude


BS, delusions, hysteria.

But if people enjoy it and believe it, good for them.

a reply to: blupblup

I used to think that

then I heard people teaching Christians in sold out huge amphitheaters about scripture, about speaking in tongues....and I realized that they were being denied the truth. Because this all started out as an ignorant interpretation of the bible by isolated and ill informed pastors in simpler times....then to make it all legit in more modern times, THEY CHANGED the meaning of scripture to reflect their interpretation.

I guess if it makes them happy. But it doesnt, not really. It makes them isolate and self segregate and violates their own laws and truths. Thats why I take special notice. Its a violation of their own laws and will eventually cause them to collapse as a community. When that happens its going to release millions of angry people who were lied to with spite and vengeance towards all spirituality.

Also, I cant help but think that my people being lied to is a problem and unacceptable. It keeps them in ignorance which effects me indirectly.

Kind of how certain cultural practices in parts of the world keep people from progressing with all of us, and even places road blocks in the way of all progress forced to accommodate backwards thinking and masking outright lies.

Its dead weight and keeps us ALL in the dark. I can let it be sure, but I will never respect it or hide my contempt for it.

That is my right too. I cant think that people have the right to lie. That is a stretch. It is NOT a matter of interpretation. Its mass fraud.

Lets talk about it more seriously like we should about Islams treatment of women and other such things....It has no place in the future since we will have to over think the problem its LIES bring. We will have to waste resources and time and adhere to limitations set because a few think they are legally protected to lie to and swindle millions.

Its really about religion. It has to go. Spirituality, is ok. Religion, No. It has NO place in the future.

originally posted by: SteamyJeans
Yes I tend to agree. I love my parents and appreciate their goodwill and all they have done for me... but their beliefs really do make me question their sanity sometimes. I struggle with that actually.. they hold much wisdom, yet still take Noahs Ark literally...lol...

Whatchya gonna do?
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

What else can you do? You just gotta accept them for who they are.

I mean let's face it, no matter how flawed they start to seem as you get older, it could always be worse... instead of being brainwashed to some delusional belief, they could just as easily not believe in anything and be the sort of people that pawned your Christmas presents off for there next hit... it is a reality for some!

.... But anyway.