NEWS: New Case Of Mad Cow Confirmed, This Time In Younger Animal

Dude, the only real way to save lives is to STOP THE MADNESS. Stop pissing off the world. Everyone needs to try harder.

I'm afraid for the future...unless of course you believe in the NWO and this is all a ruse to control us. Sometimes I wonder.

Alot to wonder about! Agreed that the only way is to stop the madness, however as long as humans run the world, there will always be madness. It's an inherent trait to want to be better than the next guy. You see it in toddlers, right through the elderly. Shame isn't it?

Good point. Same principals apply to Hallal meat apparently - I was reading up on it and Hallal doesn't just apply to the way they are killed, also the way they are raised and what they are fed.

Here in Toronto you find lots of places that sell Hallal, might be worth looking into.

I'm not too far from Atlantic City, and I've never heard of Hallal, but as a pretty big beef eater, I'm gonna look into it!

You'll find it anywhere there's a signficant Muslim population. You'd find beef, lamb and chicken. They don't eat pork as far as I know.

My Dad lived in Irvington when I was a kid and we used to go to Atlantic City and Asbury Park.

Re the situation of the world...I agree. How we can fight back is by questioning everything, trying to understand what is going on behind what they tell us...reading between the lines. Most everything is fishy to me these days.

Hey, its nice chatting with you Dude.


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Hey, its nice chatting with you Dude.

Right back atcha. I look for your posts and replies around the board. That's a compliment, I hope you take it as one.

Originally posted by superdude

Right back atcha. I look for your posts and replies around the board. That's a compliment, I hope you take it as one.

I do...we don't have to agree on everything, but its important to listen and learn. I say we're a mutual admiration society

Originally posted by superdude
I understand what you're saying about knowing it is solely from one animal, however does this in any way help to ensure that BSE is not present? Is there special testing done when the animal is slaughtered?

No, it just improves the odds of it NOT being present in that particular meal. The odds of any single animal having it is astronomically smal, but if you eat someting made from tiny pieces of 500 (or whatever) animals, the odds are increased by a factor of 500. The odds are still small, but keep doing it over & over again, keep eating supermarket hamburger 2 or 3 times a week...eventually you've eaten a tiny bit of thousands of individual animals. Maybe tens of thousands over a lifetime?

See what I mean?

(I wish I could claim credit for this concept, but I read it somewhere ages ago - BSE has been a huge issue here in the UK for much longer - anyway, it certainly got me thinking!!)

Yes, I absolutely see what you mean. You're right.
Hopefully they'll be able to come up with a blood test or something in the near future to detect this disease.

Originally posted by Azeari of the Radiant Eye
\(I wish I could claim credit for this concept, but I read it somewhere ages ago - BSE has been a huge issue here in the UK for much longer - anyway, it certainly got me thinking!!)

That's good info, thanks...you'd know more than we do here because of it occurring in the UK so long ago.

ever wonder if there was another reason behind Hindus not eating beef? I have and sometimes I think that these diseases are punishment for disobeying specific orders from god (but I don't really believe that, it's just a thought, so don't get all crazy on me for thinking it

as for hallal beef, like the other poster said, anywhere there are muslims in a community, you will find local stores that sell hallal products. I only cook hallal beef and sheep for my husband. and I refuse to eat the perdue chicken stuff, I buy free range, costs just a little more, but I like the texture and taste of the poultry better.

Hallal product are bled a certain way, prayers also said. That being said, I have eaten ours food, Kosher and Hallal, I find Hallal to be the tastiest product out there.

Hallal product are bled a certain way, prayers also said. That being said, I have eaten ours food, Kosher and Hallal, I find Hallal to be the tastiest product out there.

Is Hallal a certain type of Kosher, like Pareve? Is it found in specialty shops?

Originally posted by superdude
Is Hallal a certain type of Kosher, like Pareve? Is it found in specialty shops?

Hallal is Muslim, Kosher is Jewish and yes you have to find specialty shops in smaller towns. Here in Toronto it isn't hard to find either.

This area has quite a few "Indian Stores". I've never been in one, however is this where I might find Hallal?

some might but not all indian stores will carry it, but I'm sure they can refer you to a place in your area to find it.

Thanks for all of the advice. I actually learned something today!

Here's a good link to start researching and understanding more about Halal products (btw, it's spelled either halal or hallal)

www.eat-halal.com...

Wow...I go out for a few hours and look at all the great stuff I come back to! You guys rock!

Originally posted by intrepid
Hallal product are bled a certain way, prayers also said. That being said, I have eaten ours food, Kosher and Hallal, I find Hallal to be the tastiest product out there.

Kosher is the same isn't it? Then it is also blessed?

I'm definitely going to look into Hallal beef and lamb. Free range chicken is easy enough to find here.

Ooh..found a good site for info:

www.islamicconcern.com...

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I normally buy hallal beef and chicken, there is a difference in taste

As for Kosher,

There are two primary differences between Kosher slaughter and standard slaughter. Kosher slaughter is performed by a specially trained religious official known as a "Schochet." The Schochet performing the slaughter is required to use a certain type of long, razor sharp knife known as a "chalef" that renders the animal insensible to pain with one, single cut. In addition, the animal is not stunned prior to slaughter.

In processing Kosher meat, certain veins and arteries must be carefully removed, blood must be completely drained, and the meat is then salted for strict time periods.

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Here's an update on the Alberta situation:

This seems like it might be the only way to go, but is it a guarantee of a safe beef supply? In my opinion, it's not.

What do you all think?

Cull of older cattle possible: Klein

Alberta's premier says it's time to look at a cull of older animals to restore international confidence in Canadian beef after two cows tested positive for mad cow disease in the last 10 days.

"Is a cull necessary? Yes," Klein said today in Toronto following a luncheon speech in the heart of the country's business district.

"I think the ranching industry will come to that conclusion and will devise a way to achieve that cull."

Klein said earlier he would be discussing a cull with federal Agriculture Minister Andy Mitchell and Alberta Agriculture Minister Doug Horner. Part of the reason is also the oversupply of older animals, usually made into hamburger, which have had no international market since May 2003.

Once rejected as an extreme reaction, a cull is being considered after another Alberta cow tested positive this week for bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), even though it was born after feed bans aimed at preventing the disease were implemented. There are an estimated 840,000 animals in the Canadian herd born after the feed ban was put in place in August 1997.

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