NEWS: New Case Of Mad Cow Confirmed, This Time In Younger Animal

Wow, kinda makes you want to become a vegetarian, eh. Not! Nothing goes better with a big ole salad than a gorgeous BBQ steak.

You know i always liked you! Nothing like a good steak, nice and rare. Ooooh baby!

By the way - skip the salad. I figure that some man made event is going to take me out before mad cow does, so bring it on. Hey DrHoracid, what are your thoughts?

Originally posted by superdude

Wow, kinda makes you want to become a vegetarian, eh. Not! Nothing goes better with a big ole salad than a gorgeous BBQ steak.

You know i always liked you! Nothing like a good steak, nice and rare. Ooooh baby!

Back at'cha buddy! Drink enough red wine (aussie shiraz, yeah!) and that should fix us up nicely!! Ah what the heck, there's enough to be f***ed up about in this life already!

Back at'cha buddy! Drink enough red wine (aussie shiraz, yeah!) and that should fix us up nicely!! Ah what the heck, there's enough to be f***ed up about in this life already

In my best Homer Simpson impression - mmmmm red wine, uhh uhhh uhhh uhhh uhhh......
A cold Killians with a good steak, uhh uhhh uhhh uhh.

On a much lighter note, I was in the store a couple weeks back, and I overheard a young child say, "Maybe if the farmers were nicer to the cows they wouldn't be mad."

Originally posted by superdude

On a much lighter note, I was in the store a couple weeks back, and I overheard a young child say, "Maybe if the farmers were nicer to the cows they wouldn't be mad."

Now that IS priceless. Where's your video camera when you need it

Now that IS priceless. Where's your video camera when you need it

Aint it the truth! Back to the earlier subject, is there any way at all to test for this disease without destroying the animal?

Sadly, not as yet. But I'm sure its in the works for future. How long it will take no one knows.. If may come down to having to test every cow slaughtered as they do in Japan and the E.U. Apparently it costs about $30 per head, and would add 6 to 10 cents per pound to the price. Money well spent methinks.

Sadly, not as yet. But I'm sure its in the works for future. How long it will take no one knows.. If may come down to having to test every cow slaughtered as they do in Japan and the E.U. Apparently it costs about $30 per head, and would add 6 to 10 cents per pound to the price. Money well spent methinks.

Frankly if it added double that to the cost of Beef that it is a worthwhile expenditure IMHO. I wasn't aware that they did that in Japan, and EU. I think it's smart.

I agree, I don't eat it so often that I couldn't pay a bit more.

Here's a caption from an article I found somewhere about who tests in Europe and how:

"Facts speak for themselves: Japan is known to test every cow going into the food chain for BSE. Both Britain and Germany test all cattle at and over 24 months of age.

Other European countries screen all cows 30 months and older for BSE. France, having only a fraction of the U.S. cattle population, tests more cows for BSE in a single week than the United States has tested in the past 10 years combined. On average, Europe tests one in every four cows -- a 25-per-cent minimum testing commitment. In contrast, Canada tested only one in every 600 cows last year, and only one in every 1,000 cows the year before (out of a total of 3.3 million cattle slaughtered each year). The United States tested even fewer: only one in every 1,700 cows (about 20,000 of the 35 million slaughtered cows last year). "

Seems the US tests less cows than Canada relative to the amount slaughtered. I bet there's more BSE in the US that is unknown.





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Awesome info!
I wonder how long it would take to institute an upgraded testing system? Heck if we can spend 250 billion dollars to blow up sand dunes, we should be able to take care of this as well.
Doesn't it just make good sense? I see these little children eating fast food burgers, and I can't help but wonder, that after the gestation period of what 10 years will they be struck down just as their lives are getting ready to start.
I would hope that this country will do what's right and take the necessary steps to implement this testing.

Hear you totally on that...

There would have to be willingness on the part of government and the meat industry...and of course the people would have to start speaking up.

Just listening to an expert on newsworld - North America thought it was safe from BSE and so standards are lower than Europe or anywhere else - they had the first outbreak of course. Canada follows the standards of the US. In fact both countries should be looking to France and others for advice and example...but that's going to increase the cost for the consumer and the beef lobby would fight it for sure because there are whiners out there who will send up a hue and cry.

Seems that although beef ruminants are banned...get this, apparently chicken and pork ruminants are not - so pork and chicken into beef, chicken into pork it goes around and around. Beef blood still going in. The word "vegetarian" given to feed is a joke, on both sides of the border it seems.

Its like intermarriage...sooner or later, the blood lines break down and sickness and insanity result.

Yag...may be time to start shopping for more organics. But you know, its everything, the water, air we breathe, vegetables we eat. We're getting it from all sides. Its all our bodies have every known...no wonder so many people have cancer...

My granny is 98, bless her heart, can't see or hear very well, but her mind is as sharp as a tack. Grew up with a hard life in portugal - no schooling, farm work...but a simple life with no preservatives in food orfancy drugs to fight disease (until she moved here of course). They used home remedies, natural herbs etc.. She survived a number of pneumonias and TUBERCULOSIS in her younger years.

Anyway, I digress....its depressing when you think about it.

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Yes it is depressing at best. The pollutants our bodies endure is amazing. I read not so long ago, the the breast milk in some of the Slavic areas if tested would actually be considered Toxic waste. I'll try to post a link on that.
The scary thing about this particular subject is this. Supposing a fast food chain served contaminated meat. One cow, whose meat is mixed with tons of meat all processed together, then served to many tens of thousands in the form of burgers. This could be an extremely grim thing to an entire generation.
Our government HAS to do something about it.

Good God, what an awful thought...but not totally out in left field. I stopped eating fast foods a long time ago for the most part (I love Wendy's chips and treat myself once in a while)...not because of that, but because of the concerns about fat, but damn, if ever there's a reason to quit BK, McDonald's and the rest - yours is one.

Unfortunately, if there's ever a scare due to McDonalds quarter pounders, I'm a gonner. I read that the prions that cause this disease need to be exposed to temperatures approaching 1000 degrees Farenheight in order to kill them. I'm sure that no burger I've ever eaten, has been burned that badly. Except of course when my wife tries her hand at the BBQ grill....

Originally posted by superdude
Unfortunately, if there's ever a scare due to McDonalds quarter pounders, I'm a gonner. I read that the prions that cause this disease need to be exposed to temperatures approaching 1000 degrees Farenheight in order to kill them. I'm sure that no burger I've ever eaten, has been burned that badly. Except of course when my wife tries her hand at the BBQ grill....

Maybe she knows something we don't...

Seems like the US isn't changing their mind about opening the border...any money its in exchange for Canada signing on to missile defence. This is my speculation...its supposed to be announced end of the month. Its very unpopular here...we're afraid of the weaponization of space. What do you think?

any money its in exchange for Canada signing on to missile defence. This is my speculation...its supposed to be announced end of the month. Its very unpopular here...we're afraid of the weaponization of space. What do you think?

Hmmm, double edged sword, very good question though.
I on one hand like the idea of weaponizing space. By that I mean for defense against incoming missiles. If the system were ables to stop even a fraction of incoming missiles, god forbid we find out, it would potentially save millions of lives.
On the other hand, it scares me, due to the fact that the power supply would be some sort of radioactive isotope, and if the satellite should fall, get bumped, or whatever, it could contaminate large areas.
I guess I'm more for it than against it though.

One angle that hasn't been mentioned is hamburger ("mince", over here). When you think about the fact that a typical pound of hamburger could contain bits from perhaps hundreds of different animals (I saw the exact stat once, can't find it now), that really increases the odds of any one portion being infected.

What I do now is get ALL my meat directly from the producer. They do beef, chicken, pork and lamb, and every single animal is born, raised, butchered, packaged and sold right on the premesis. They kill one cow at a time, so you always know that any pack of hamburger has come from one single animal.

It's a little more expensive, but I like the idea for lots of reasons, not just the BSE issue. For example, all the animals are free-range and therefore have nicer lives than the ones that end up in the supermarket.

I understand what you're saying about knowing it is solely from one animal, however does this in any way help to ensure that BSE is not present? Is there special testing done when the animal is slaughtered?

Originally posted by superdude
[I on one hand like the idea of weaponizing space. By that I mean for defense against incoming missiles. If the system were ables to stop even a fraction of incoming missiles, god forbid we find out, it would potentially save millions of lives.

Dude, the only real way to save lives is to STOP THE MADNESS. Stop pissing off the world. Everyone needs to try harder.

I'm afraid for the future...unless of course you believe in the NWO and this is all a ruse to control us. Sometimes I wonder.

Originally posted by Azeari of the Radiant Eye

It's a little more expensive, but I like the idea for lots of reasons, not just the BSE issue. For example, all the animals are free-range and therefore have nicer lives than the ones that end up in the supermarket.

Good point. Same principals apply to Hallal meat apparently - I was reading up on it and Hallal doesn't just apply to the way they are killed, also the way they are raised and what they are fed.

Here in Toronto you find lots of places that sell Hallal, might be worth looking into.