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Deuteronomy 32:8 Yahweh a Son of God (The Most High)

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posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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We have all been fooled into believing that Yahweh and the Most High (El Elyon) are and were the same being. This may be the current belief among Christians today, but ancient Canaan/Israel did not share this belief.

Deuteronomy 32:8
When the Most High(El Elyon) gave the nations their inheritance,
when he divided the sons of men,
he fixed their bounds according to the number of the sons of God;
But Yahweh's portion was his people, Jacob his share of inheritance.

What you have just read is a Catholic bible stating Yahweh inherited from the Most High, the nation of Israel/Jacob. You can't inherit something from yourself. The Ugaritic texts and the Ras Shamra prove El existed prior to the cult of Yahweh. They were, in the era of Deuteronomy, Father and "Son." To prove deception is amiss lets go to the NIV:

32:8 When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind, he set up boundaries for the peoples
according to the sons of Israel;...

How do the sons of God become the sons of Israel? Because the NIV is translated off the Masoretic texts that sought to hide the early Israelites true beliefs and deliberately changed God to Israel. Subtle, but devious. Why would God set up boundaries according to the numbers of a small tribe of Yahwists? It doesn't even make sense. Heres the Good News translation:

32:8 The Most High assigned nations their lands;
He determined where peoples should live. He assigned to each nation a heavenly being, but Jacobs descendants he chose for himself.

Now the word inheritance has been ommitted because Christianity can't deal with Yahweh recieving Israel as an inheritance from El. Please don't tell me this isn't deception, or try rationalizing away the truth. That early Israel believed in a God per nation and Yahweh was the God of Israel as an INHERITANCE from the Most High El. I've heard every possible attempt to brush aside the fact that monotheistic Israel is a 2nd temple occurrence and I have proven how most bibles subtley reword this passage deceptively. Had we not discovered the Ugaritic texts we would not know this, but we do know this. Scholars even created a new word for it (belief in many gods, one per nation, all under El) called henotheism.

I'm going to get crap from the Christian fundamentalists for exposing this, but I love the truth, and hate deception. My goal is to make people aware of the truth, not to anger Christians.

Plus, this is good news. You can stop worshipping that puke of a "god" Yahweh and worship instead the merciful El.

Good news indeed.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 06:45 PM
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Gnosisisfaith . . . . . Sassanid, the Preserved word is correct all others are wrong.

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.



edit on 6-3-2016 by ChesterJohn because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
Gnosisisfaiatn . . . . . Sassanid, the Preserved word is correct all others are wrong.

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

Took me a moment to figure out what that first word was all about. Now I get it. I do smell some sock puppets afoot lately.

On topic:
Why do you believe the Catholic bible over any other bible, OP?
edit on 3/6/2016 by Klassified because: directed at OP



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 06:57 PM
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Yahweh, YHVH, is indeed the Son of God - Jesus.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 06:58 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
Gnosisisfaiatn . . . . . Sassanid, the Preserved word is correct all others are wrong.

When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.


Keep reading. He should have put 32:8 and 9 in the title.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: Abysha
This guy does this all the time until he gets banned then he pops up as another user and starts allover.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: Sassanid

The biggest detail, the bible was man made, the old testament was part of the history of the humble beginning of the Hebrew people that later were known as the Israelites, as with everything it was full of lore, myth and bias with some historical facts, also the old testament to benefit their ancestry, let no forget that the original accounts were destroyed long before the bible was written on paper.

History according to the bible is not the most reliable accounts you can rely on and today's old bible testament is not even close to what the ancient tests long lost meant to the ancient Israelites .



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Abysha
This guy does this all the time until he gets banned then he pops up as another user and starts allover.



What I meant was that you quoted 32:8 like he listed but the verse that actually makes his argument is the one right after that.

Are you a Christian? If so, what are your thoughts on those two verses? I've never noticed the wording myself.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: Sassanid

(Deuteronomy 32:8) When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When he divided the sons of Adam from one another, He fixed the boundary of the peoples With regard for the number of the sons of Israel.

That is an accurate translation.

I hope that helps you clear your mind a little.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

No the two verses are different. I have no comment on it seeing it is ahistorical narrative void of doctrine for the Body of Christ.


Duet 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.
11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings:
12 So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.

So it is telling us there are 12 boundaries of the sons of Adam.
These are not two Gods but One.




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posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

For all there faults they take the bible very seriously. The particular bible I use used the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Greek and the Masoretic. No non Catholic bibles use the ancient Dead Sea Scrolls, which are the most ancient we have.

What is a sock puppet?



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: Sassanid

sock puppet. An account made on an internet message board or forum, by a person who already has an account, for the purpose of posting more-or-less anonymously or to deceive the board moderators.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: JackReyes

Your sly comment suggesting my head isn't clear sounds like I hit a nerve. You can avoid the truth til the cows come home but I have investigated this situation and am positive Yahweh was during Deuteronomy's writing a son of El. This is a fact.

Whatever you want to believe is fine with me, I don't like to deny history for the sake of my personal beliefs. Maybe you do, freedom of religion is not something I take lightly, but you've heard the truth.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohnThis is my first account.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Sassanid

It means a more accurate translation can help you understand better. Clear your mind from an inaccurate and thus murky understanding.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

I'm sorry but they were not, at the time of its writing, the same God. That is a second temple development.

In the Ugaritic texts, Baal usurped El. The Israelites did it differently, they merged the two. If you can't see this it's your choice. The evidence is conclusive and you are denying the truth. Which is what I know most Christians do when confronted with the proof.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: JackReyes

I already have the most accurate translation. You are arrogant by assuming you know what you're talking about. I have the proof, you CHOOSE to deny it. I'm not you, so I don't care.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Sassanid

So full of it!

חבְּהַנְחֵל עֶלְיוֹן גּוֹיִם בְּהַפְרִידוֹ בְּנֵי אָדָם יַצֵּב
גְּבֻלֹת עַמִּים לְמִסְפַּר בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל:

טכִּי חֵלֶק יְהֹוָה עַמּוֹ יַעֲקֹב חֶבֶל נַחֲלָתוֹ:

ייִמְצָאֵהוּ בְּאֶרֶץ מִדְבָּר וּבְתֹהוּ יְלֵל יְשִׁמֹן
יְסֹבְבֶנְהוּ יְבוֹנְנֵהוּ יִצְּרֶנְהוּ כְּאִישׁוֹן עֵינוֹ:

יאכְּנֶשֶׁר יָעִיר קִנּוֹ עַל גּוֹזָלָיו יְרַחֵף יִפְרֹשׂ
כְּנָפָיו יִקָּחֵהוּ יִשָּׂאֵהוּ עַל אֶבְרָתוֹ:

יביְהֹוָה בָּדָד יַנְחֶנּוּ וְאֵין עִמּוֹ אֵל נֵכָר:
When the Most High gave nations their lot, when He separated the sons of man, He set up the boundaries of peoples according to the number of the children of Israel.

Because the Lord's portion is His people Jacob, the lot of His inheritance.

He found them in a desert land, and in a desolate, howling wasteland. He encompassed them and bestowed understanding upon them; He protected them as the pupil of His eye.

As an eagle awakens its nest, hovering over its fledglings, it spreads its wings, taking them and carrying them on its pinions.

[So] the Lord guided them alone, and there was no alien deity with Him.



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Yahweh, YHVH, is indeed the Son of God - Jesus.


Amen



posted on Mar, 6 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: Sassanid
a reply to: ChesterJohnThis is my first account.



This is as truthful as the the op you posted

You can't honestly as a supposed godly person, up righteous in your faith, make that statement and have a testimony as a believer

Are you deceiving yourself as well as others



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