Mexico City Legislators Ask To Ban Donald Trump From Their Country

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Nucleardoom

Look. Here is the short and skinny of reality. Globalization is here. You are just going to have to learn to live with it. Going back to an isolated bubble is not a feasible scenario.

If you say so man. Nations have existed and thrived before the globalisation train. Long after this rapist globalist economy is gone...people and nations will survive just fine.

True enough, but it is going to take a MASSIVE upheaval on a global scale to reset us back to a point where isolationism is a viable course of action again. Either that or we learn how to colonize space and the isolationists can go live in some deep corner of the solar system or something.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ìf I wasn't already a Trump supporter, this would make me one. No nation outside of the USA should view the American president with anything other than fear, envy, or jealous anger. Those emotions mean the US is maintaining the natural order of power in the world, rather than pandering on a global scale.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

So you want our country to be a dominating empire then? Because that is the only result when everyone looks at you like that. Either that or countries unite together to destroy you since you can't work well with others. It's comments like yours that really worry me about the direction our country is headed... We are supposed to be a nation of compromise and here you are talking up bullying and intimidation.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Why are you insistent on this word "isolation"?

There can never be true isolation. China, Russia are the biggest bad guys as far as globalist agenda is concerned...yet the entire world trades with them. There are many countries that will never truly join the train...and are doing just fine.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

We should just establish a new rome. A new reich

Cut the cowardly words everyone. This is what we are getting at no?

Want to do this every several decades? Why?

Lets just establish our empire, pick the strongest among us as emperor and call it day.

Else, our ethos is like oil and the water is our ambitions.

I am for it. Cut the crap and stop pretending. Let us place our enemies at our feet.

The strong will rule.

Not for nothing, but why not ask the English crown to take our lands under their rule.

We had a monarch and failed at going solo as a democracy. Look where we are?

You said it yourself, the world should fear us. That is not the ethos of a democracy. Thats fine. It is the sentiment of a monarchist.

You just dont know it yet. If we had a king, what you say would be true for our people.

Bring back our monarch.

Give us back our purpose. Give us back our king.

Mexico is not the only country Trump will get banned from, if he is elected president we will have a president banned from multiple countries around the world, not a good look America. The year of 2016 we cannot live isolated from the rest of the world, look at North Korea and their dear leader, Donald Trump and him have much in common funny hair and all!!!!

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
We are supposed to be a nation of compromise and here you are talking up bullying and intimidation.

I don't want a president of compromise on the global stage. I don't care about Mexico's problems and concerns, I care about the USA's problems and concerns. I expect any POTUS to do the same. There should be zero compromise, instead there should be purely "What is the BEST for the USA's interests?" and action based accordingly on that principle. We got away from that and it jabbed us in the ass with NAFTA and now with the TTP... time to return to the basics of nationalism and protectionism.

The same people that vote for Trump probably consider a war with Mexico to be a good idea. They probably think an imperial government would be most effective too.

As radical as it comes anymore, American Patriotism still supposedly has no semblance to Germany or NK.

The Trump rally singing girls looked EXACTLY like NK rally for WAR....wake up you #ing people.

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Why are you insistent on this word "isolation"?

There can never be true isolation. China, Russia are the biggest bad guys as far as globalist agenda is concerned...yet the entire world trades with them. There are many countries that will never truly join the train...and are doing just fine.

China is more agreeable than Russia is though. I really just don't buy into the China fear train. Is the fear that if China surpasses us economically than suddenly we'll be engaging human rights violations ourselves? Outside of flexing military might (which the US does FAR more than China does, can't say the same about Russia though), how does China pose any threat to us?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

International policy like that is what leads to world wars. If we as a country deem to want to set an example to others, we need to rise ABOVE barbarism like that. After all, Russia is just SOOOO loved by the international community right?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: EightTF3

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: EightTF3

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: EightTF3

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Off course, obtuse as usual.

You call me obtuse? I asked for a VERY specific request from you and you haven't even attempted to deliever on it, and now you are pretending like I'm not bringing enough to the table.

Is not voting a logical argument? Like I said, if anyone has the potential to change things up, it is Trump. It is a perfect argument to vote for him.

If I were in Antarctica without a shirt on and freezing and then suddenly I was standing next to an active volcano I'm not sure that would be the kind of change I'd appreciate.

See your logic isn't that much better.

You've let the establishment politicians(in your case the Clinton's/Obama) dump you off in the middle of the arctic and take your shirt to boot. I'm personally going to go stand next to the active volcano where at least I know it's warm, rather then continue slowly freezing to death. Maybe the Volcano goes off in the next 8 year, maybe it doesn't. Either way I prefer it to freezing and maybe it'll take the dicks who dropped me off in the snow and took my luggage with me.

Way to completely overthink my analogy. Glad to see that you'd rather burn to death than freeze to death though (because standing shirtless right next to a lava flow will be extremely damaging to you).

I don't think you understand what an active volcano is

I think you are splitting hairs over a semantics argument when you should know damn well what I meant with that analogy, but if you insist on not being able to read between the lines. Pretend I said erupting volcano instead.

In that case I'll still just choose to burn it all down down now, rather than wait

So, in your opinion, the best course of action to fix a system with flaws is to literally tear it all down and start over? What's wrong with trying to fix it and make it work?

You're leaning towards Hillary Clinton, you know for a fact she isn't changing anything. I would hope Trump could actually fix some things in Washington. I would also take him going nuclear and bringing down the whole house of cards with him, over another 8, 16, 24 years of the same #. I got nothing to lose as far as I see it

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
. No nation outside of the USA should view the American president with anything other than fear, envy, or jealous anger.

So you want it to be a violent tyrant that has no allies and just makes enemys?

Great way to insure the USA collaspes like all empires.

Ruling by fear NEVER works in the long run.


How about ruling through respect and common sense?

Theodore Roosevelt had exactly the right idea.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

So you want our country to be a dominating empire then? Because that is the only result when everyone looks at you like that. Either that or countries unite together to destroy you since you can't work well with others. It's comments like yours that really worry me about the direction our country is headed... We are supposed to be a nation of compromise and here you are talking up bullying and intimidation.

We can see the neocons crawling out of the wood work.

You would have though they would have died off after bushes dismal failure but Trumps bringing them out again.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

So you want our country to be a dominating empire then? Because that is the only result when everyone looks at you like that. Either that or countries unite together to destroy you since you can't work well with others. It's comments like yours that really worry me about the direction our country is headed... We are supposed to be a nation of compromise and here you are talking up bullying and intimidation.

We can see the neocons crawling out of the wood work.

You would have though they would have died off after bushes dismal failure but Trumps bringing them out again.

Warhawks never go away for long in this country.
America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776

It's like an American pastime. Apple pie, football, and bombing the # out of places that can barely defend themselves.

a reply to: EightTF3

I'm leaning towards NOT Trump. I thought that was made clear already in this thread? There's already an anti-establishment candidate running that is far superior to Trump in every way. It's just a shame that he won't get the nomination because too many misinformed Americans think that Socialism = the devil.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

So you want our country to be a dominating empire then? Because that is the only result when everyone looks at you like that. Either that or countries unite together to destroy you since you can't work well with others. It's comments like yours that really worry me about the direction our country is headed... We are supposed to be a nation of compromise and here you are talking up bullying and intimidation.

We can see the neocons crawling out of the wood work.

You would have though they would have died off after bushes dismal failure but Trumps bringing them out again.

Warhawks never go away for long in this country.
America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776

It's like an American pastime. Apple pie, football, and bombing the # out of places that can barely defend themselves.

Warhawks? Your being far to kind.

Chicken hawks as most that cry for war have likely never been near a warzone.

Especially the draft dodger trump.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
a reply to: crazyewok

When you drama queens have figured out the difference between national protectionism and direct aggression, let's discuss further. I'm opposed to instigating conflict unless there are beneficial spoils to be claimed (which hasn't happened with the US' wars in many, many years.) so no, not advocating war. At the same time, appeasement is a piss-poor response to another country telling the US what we should do, shipping scores of illegals into our nation, or doing something directly disadvantageous to the US.

No neocon I've ever been aware of has advocated national protectionism. In fact, their king GWB, directly derided the idea back in 2007 when we were calling for it to happen.

a reply to: crazyewok

Yeah, that's a fair point.

Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief"
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Yeah!
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask them, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer More! more! more! yoh

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, one

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no no no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate son, no no no

-Fortunate Son, CCR

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Krazysh0t
a reply to: crazyewok

When you drama queens have figured out the difference between national protectionism and direct aggression, let's discuss further. I'm opposed to instigating conflict unless there are beneficial spoils to be claimed (which hasn't happened with the US' wars in many, many years.) so no, not advocating war. At the same time, appeasement is a piss-poor response to another country telling the US what we should do, shipping scores of illegals into our nation, or doing something directly disadvantageous to the US.

No neocon I've ever been aware of has advocated national protectionism. In fact, their king GWB, directly derided the idea back in 2007 when we were calling for it to happen.

It doesn't matter if you are advocating for war or not, the tone you demand of our leaders can only lead to it. So you might as well be. No compromise? Yeah, that's a direct course for war. Sorry, that's how things work. So call us drama queens all you want, but the truth hurts and you are directly advocating for a course of action that will lead to more war and bloodshed.

#, this should be obvious with day-to-day personal interactions. If you went around demanding that everyone cater to your demands, yelling, insulting them, and never considering their wants, you'd have close to no friends (worth having) and get into tons of fist fights.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

how does China pose any threat to us?

well, I'm hardly an expert in global economics...but I was led to believe that US firmly wants to stay No1 economic or military wise. In that regard it views China not so much as a military threat...but an economic one. I think you know what would happen if that ceases to be so. Would $ remain the world reserve currency ? would oil still be traded in $ ?

As I said...I'm not an economics expert...but these things seem to be self evident. Also..isnt China somewhat buddy buddy with Russia ?