Mexico City Legislators Ask To Ban Donald Trump From Their Country

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I'm not voting for any of the dickweeds so I'm right there with you all.

originally posted by: snowspirit
There's other countries a little apprehensive about Trump as well

Consider the possibility that this is becoming something much bigger than Trump vs. the U.S. establishment and is starting to look like Trump vs. the NWO.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: Krazysh0t

So you expect me to name specific policies that Trump will implement to benefit everyone, when you won't do same thing for other candidates an even suggest not voting at all, when I already answered by saying that people are simply fed up with the establishment and see Trump as the alternative who is not going to play by their rules.

Well this thread is about Donald Trump, not those other candidates. Also, people being fed up with the establishment doesn't automatically make Trump a viable candidate worth voting for. There isn't a logical connection there. And yes, I do expect you to name specific policies. I don't vote for someone based on empty rhetoric. I vote for them because they have sound policies that I agree with.

I think this view is more intelligent than not voting or voting for the same formula of which we know it doesn't benefit anybody, by now.

Why? You haven't given me any reasons with any actual substance yet. Just rhetoric and insults.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I'm not voting for any of the dickweeds so I'm right there with you all.

Yeah I don't blame you.



I love you guys really despite my criticism. So it's sad to see what your options are.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You think so? Fair enough. Let's explore that possibility. So outline for me a logical reason to vote for Donald Trump, going over his policies and why they would improve the conditions in this country for everyone and not just a select race of people. Please go into logical detail about how x policy from Trump will lead to y beneficial results for everyone.

Like I said, this is your straw man argument that you want me to answer, but I never refered to specific policies making him an intelligent choice.

It is stupid to vote for the same formula and expect things to change for the better, so picking Trump as the alternative is smarter than voting for the same old same old or not voting at all.

Simple as that.

You haven't given me any reasons with any actual substance yet. Just rhetoric and insults.

All I see you hold against Trump is rethoric and insults.

I don't vote for someone based on empty rhetoric. I vote for them because they have sound policies that I agree with.

You mentioned Clinton. So which policies would make you vote for her. You also mentioned not voting at all. You do realize that not voting isn't going to make any candidate go away, do you?

So it would be intelligent to vote for the one that would cause the least amount of harm. Not voting would only give your worst candidate a bigger chance to win.

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

It's just as stupid to vote for a liar and con artist and expect things to change for the better...

Simple as that.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Like I said, this is your straw man argument that you want me the answer, but I never refered to specific policies making him an intelligent choice.

So now me humoring your claim of my logical inadequacy is a strawman argument? Methinks you don't know what a strawman is.

It is stupid to vote for the same formula and expect things to change for the better, so picking Trump as the alternative is smarter than voting for the same old same old or not voting at all.

Simple as that.

So in other words there was NEVER a situation in the past where the change was worse than what we had previously?

All I see you hold against Trump is rethoric and insults.

Actually, I can make very compelling arguments about why I don't want to vote for Trump and feel he is bad for this country. I've even tried in the past, but instead I get conversations like this one. Deflections, insults, and political rhetoric.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

Well this thread is about Donald Trump, not those other candidates. Also, people being fed up with the establishment doesn't automatically make Trump a viable candidate worth voting for. There isn't a logical connection there. And yes, I do expect you to name specific policies. I don't vote for someone based on empty rhetoric. I vote for them because they have sound policies that I agree with.

Why? You haven't given me any reasons with any actual substance yet. Just rhetoric and insults.

Well here is a couple of examples then. Trump has stated the U.S. infrastructure is crumbling. Many of our freeways, bridges & railways are in dire need of repair & yet Obama has done almost nothing in this regard. Like it or not we need to invest in the future of this country and infrastructure repair & upgrades are a fact of life even if they are costly.

Trump has addressed this and has stated he will get the funding appropriated in order to address the growing problem. He's also has laid plans to revamp how veterans are treated in this country citing the massive V.A. hospital scandal. So, now I've explained two current issues he's addressed.

Hillary keeps talking about love and togetherness, that don't fix that rough freeway your commuting to work on every morning now does it? Or that freeway overpass you drive under each morning that's just waiting to collapse on your head, love wont fix that either.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
He'll sue 'em!

Couldn't help but laugh! It would be interesting to amass a list of all his lawsuits, actual and threatened.
He's a litigation machine! (and a nut).

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Given that Trump was describing illegal Mexican immigrants in that manner (he also said some of them are probably good people), and not Mexicans as a whole, we can easily see the sentiment is generated by the very same left-wing propaganda that many have fallen for in the UK and state-side.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.

This is exactly what you did, since I never made an argument refering to specific Trump policies that would benefit everyone.

a reply to: crazyewok

You know, you'd think in the "greatest country in the world" would be able to produce a solid leader with precense of mind, the ability to arbitrate and pay attention to our social issues as well as our foreign policy's, a leader who could unite instead divide. Where is this leader? Can we really not produce one? The truth is, a real leader doesn't run for presidency, it's understood that it's a pandering position; a face value puppet position. Have I become jaded? well yes I have, haven't we all?

P.S despite your Cristisms and obvious lack of understanding, that America is the best ever , and "the last great hope of humanity"-Christopher Hitchens.
We love you guys too like brothers and sisters.

a reply to: Nucleardoom

no matter how much Republicans say they care about infrastructure, they’re not going to accept any infrastructure proposals that come from President Barack Obama. They opposed his $50 billion “roads, rails and runways” proposal in 2010, and then again when it was expanded and incorporated into his American Jobs Act in 2011. They’ve blocked Obama’s plans for an infrastructure bank and a national high-speed rail network. They’ve also blocked Obama’s proposals for corporate tax reform, which is relevant, because the new GROW AMERICA Act depends on tax reform for much of its financing.

time.com...

a reply to: kaylaluv

So what do you suggest, with all your wisdom. Not voting at all, or voting for the formula you know for sure doesn't work?

a reply to: TechniXcality

Your going to really regret that decision. Apathy is worse than Trump. I'd vote just to keep Hillbillary the psychopath out.
Things can get a LOT worse if that sideshow is allowed a second run. Corruption??? You haven't even seen the likes of it yet.

Remember this is why almost everything you pick up now says "made in China" on it. Clinton was the perpetrator. These are the very people that orchestrated most of the outsourcing of jobs from the U.S. and people act as if it didn't happen. Like Ross said years ago "Hear that giant sucking sound..." It's the sound of all your jobs leaving. If these two get back in it's game over for the U.S.

a reply to: Nucleardoom

First. Thank you for actually producing a logical appeal like I asked.

Those are some fair points that he has. I certainly have agreed with them for a long time and have even remarked on both of those things. Though I also see them as kind of Socialist, but whatever. Do you feel the benefits of those policies outweigh the repercussions of his more outlandish claims and desires? For instance, back to the OP, Trump isn't even President and the country already doesn't want anything to do with him. There is also the lingering thing that Trump appears to dredge up whatever topics that get Americans angry then offer up a super awesome fix for it.

How do I get assurance that Trump will follow through on his words? How do I know that when Trump says he wants to ban Muslims (temporarily) from entering the country he is doing it out of Patriotism and not just because he's a bigoted asshole?

Should I trust Trump JUST because I don't trust Hillary? Because that is the vibe I seem to be getting from most Trump supporters.

Legislators in Mexico City are asking the federal government to ban Donald Trump from entering the country, citing the GOP presidential hopeful’s repeated anti-Mexican comments.

My why how RACIST Mexicans are.

Why don't they do something about their 'citizens' fleeing their own country instead.

I swear they must screw like rabbits after 40 years of mass exodus's down there.

originally posted by: TheTory
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Given that Trump was describing illegal Mexican immigrants in that manner (he also said some of them are probably good people), and not Mexicans as a whole, we can easily see the sentiment is generated by the very same left-wing propaganda that many have fallen for in the UK and state-side.

And I'm sure Mexico is just JUMPING to make that distinction too...

a reply to: DutchMasterChief

I suggest starting a revolution. Not a violent revolution, a voting revolution. Get Bernie Sanders in and then vote out the establishment congress who has been bought and paid for, and vote in new blood that will work with Bernie to rid this country of corrupted government officials, and the broken system that rewards them.

Bernie is honest, principled, consistent. He's never had to be investigated, he's never been prosecuted. He's never been caught in endless lies.

Contrary to what the conservative media spews, he is NOT a communist, nor does he advocate any kind of national socialism (like Venezuela). He IS the change we've been looking for, but he can't do it on his own. He needs a congress that will work with him, and that is up to US, the people.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: Krazysh0t

A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.

This is exactly what you did, since I never made an argument refering to specific Trump policies that would benefit everyone.

No you questioned my logical decision making process as it pertains to vetting Donald Trump. Well, logically, one shouldn't vote for a candidate based on rhetoric alone. That is a very poor logical argument, hence why I asked about his policies. Clearly YOUR logical analysis is lacking.