Doctors who discovered cancer enzymes in vaccines all found murdered.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Elementalist
Even IF (and I don't believe they do) they cause autism I would rather live in a world were 1 in 50 get autism but live to a ripe old age than in a world 1 in 5 children die before there 10th birthday and we are not expected to live past 45.

I don't give a single # about the vaccines. I won't put it in my body, mind or spirit regardless what society wants.

I'm talking about MURDERED PEOPLE.

Let go of safeguarding your sanity and trust in those who govern your profession.

Look at the conspiracy. People are dead, people just like you, trying to help others.

Also, they may have found something Very sinister in the industry, hence murdered.

Talk about that, enough with the vaccine denial. We get it...

a reply to: MysterX

Perhaps the human genes or aborted baby genes that were used to create the vaccines had cancer already or already had genetic autism. Could be like a homeopathic dose of and causing the rise in cancer and autism. I have more to say but have just woken at 6am so brain not function well.

originally posted by: Elementalist

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Elementalist
Even IF (and I don't believe they do) they cause autism I would rather live in a world were 1 in 50 get autism but live to a ripe old age than in a world 1 in 5 children die before there 10th birthday and we are not expected to live past 45.

Barring marking cause dodgy stuff goes on there I can garentee there is no conspiracy

I don't give a single # about the vaccines. I won't put it in my body, mind or spirit regardless what society wants.

I'm talking about MURDERED PEOPLE.

Let go of safeguarding your sanity and trust in those who govern your profession.

Look at the conspiracy. People are dead, people just like you, trying to help others.

Also, they may have found something Very sinister in the industry, hence murdered.

Talk about that, enough with the vaccine denial. We get it...

Apart from marketing as I admit some dodgy stuff goes down there I can garentee on our end (the scientists and tecs) there is no bloody conspiracy. I see every day wants going in and it's exactly what it's supposed to be.
You can't fool the machines I use.

As for marketing? We'll take that up with the with the lawyers, drug salesmen and GPs as its naught to do with me. I just make sure what your takeing is what it's meant to be.

As for not wanting to take drugs and vaccines? Fine. Good for you, I won't force you. I'm happy to let natural selection take its course....

Uh huh. People aren't getting cancer and autism isn't become prevalent in babies because of the constant poisons we pump into the air, water, ground, and food via poorly regulated pollution around the world, it's the evil vaccines, Big Pharma, and those doctors who love cancer treatment money!

originally posted by: PeterMcFly
a reply to: Kashai

However not enough carbs can cause heath problems as well.

With respect, witch problem ?

Witch problems are an entirely different issue, with respect or not! Slide on over to the occult section and get that taken care of before the harvest moon!

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: DeathSlayer
Link?

Ok... sorry for what I'm about to say but...

Why is it a link necessary? I don't get this thing here n ATS. Has anybody the right to think by themselves without having to simply replicate what they had read in some other doubful website?

Do ATSers expect to confirm lies or truths just from reading other websites available in the internet? If so, it had been given the name of an enzyme, a name of a doctor, it should be enough to go personally check on google if what the OP wrote is not enough.

This always reminds me my professors in college when I had to defend my thesis. They wanted sources.... Gee I read tens of books, if not hundreds, just to present a plausible thesis, and then someone thinks I can't think by myself, I need corroboration. Well I disagree. I don't need corroboration.Who corroborated Adam Smith, or Keynes or Mills, or Plato for that matter? (not saying I'm any genius or even close to that, but even I can have one or two ideas here and there) Just venting.... sorry

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: DeathSlayer

An unsourced claim around a long debunked myth (that vaccines cause autism) is not exactly suitable for the Science & Technology forum.

I don't know but these Dr's are still dead for some reason.

a reply to: tsctsc
It's just nice to have the source to see the reliability and simply to see an expanded form of the information. You always have to have evidence, otherwise can you be completely believed? I could easily make up such a story, though this seems made up based on some comments? Might be wrong. Good day to you.

originally posted by: tsctsc

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: DeathSlayer
Link?

Ok... sorry for what I'm about to say but...

Why is it a link necessary? I don't get this thing here n ATS. Has anybody the right to think by themselves without having to simply replicate what they had read in some other doubful website?

Do ATSers expect to confirm lies or truths just from reading other websites available in the internet? If so, it had been given the name of an enzyme, a name of a doctor, it should be enough to go personally check on google if what the OP wrote is not enough.

This always reminds me my professors in college when I had to defend my thesis. They wanted sources.... Gee I read tens of books, if not hundreds, just to present a plausible thesis, and then someone thinks I can't think by myself, I need corroboration. Well I disagree. I don't need corroboration.Who corroborated Adam Smith, or Keynes or Mills, or Plato for that matter? (not saying I'm any genius or even close to that, but even I can have one or two ideas here and there) Just venting.... sorry

a reply to: Elementalist

So you wanna talk about the "murdered" doctors huh...? Like Dr Ted Broer who apparently broke the story on 'The Hagmann and Hagmann Report'...after some delay because they were being "attacked" (ddos'd)...but THANKFULLY they asked a bunch of people to PRAY for them...and they finally got him on the air....he then goes on to break the story concerning nagalese....and is now....oh wait..he's not dead...damn

If anyone can give me the names of the doctors who HAVE been murdered...it'd be much appreciated (excluding the following 2...who surely weren't "murdered")

Dr. James Jeffrey Bradstreet - suicide after an FDA raid on his clinic...sure it sounds good...but maybe, just maybe occam's razor applies here...and it's not a huge conspiracy that the feds killed him...but rather he took his own life after losing everything he had worked for....perhaps he was into some shady shenanigans in that clinic and that's why he got shut down....just sayin...not everything is a conspiracy.

or Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez who was surely a quack...had been suspended for 2 years from the NY state med board for departing from accepted practices. Whose treatment of terminally ill pancreatic cancer patients caused them to die faster than those who received traditional chemotherapy. I mean...a guy in his 60's couldn't possibly die of cardiac arrest....right? Please...No conspiracy here folks. Big Pharma does not operate a seal team...sorry.

A2D

originally posted by: tsctsc

originally posted by: Tiamat384
a reply to: DeathSlayer
Link?

Ok... sorry for what I'm about to say but...

Why is it a link necessary? I don't get this thing here n ATS. Has anybody the right to think by themselves without having to simply replicate what they had read in some other doubful website?

Do ATSers expect to confirm lies or truths just from reading other websites available in the internet? If so, it had been given the name of an enzyme, a name of a doctor, it should be enough to go personally check on google if what the OP wrote is not enough.

This always reminds me my professors in college when I had to defend my thesis. They wanted sources.... Gee I read tens of books, if not hundreds, just to present a plausible thesis, and then someone thinks I can't think by myself, I need corroboration. Well I disagree. I don't need corroboration.Who corroborated Adam Smith, or Keynes or Mills, or Plato for that matter? (not saying I'm any genius or even close to that, but even I can have one or two ideas here and there) Just venting.... sorry

I double this, if you can read a link you can use google, take the info, do your own research and make up your own mind. Don't be sucked into the circle jerk.

a reply to: tonycodes
But the person posting "information" should provide where they did their research so that anyone who wishes to do so will do comparative research.

EDIT: Who are you calling a jerk?

a reply to: zatara

And?? The guy was responsible for the deaths of 5 children by direct use of his untested quack treatment. He was rightly being investigated by the FDA and apparently the guy would rather take his own life than face the consequences of his actions.

But no, let's instead spin a completely unsubstantiated narrative of the evil powers that be bumping off this guy because he was onto something (he wasn't, because his claims were a load of bollocks and people died as a result).

I can't believe people are even defending this dangerous quack.

originally posted by: tsctsc

Why is it a link necessary?

Because some people aren't so gullible as to credulously believe every conspiracy theory they hear, particularly on a science forum.

a reply to: GetHyped

Everybody thinks everything is a conspiracy these days. Granted, being somewhat involved in holistic medicine, I can see a few points here and there...but big pharma is not out killing people. Nor is the government trying to reduce the population. Archaeology is not covering up evidence to prove a global flood. The vatican does not have lizards in their basement. The government is not spying on your every move, unless of course you give them a reason to, like googling bomb making materials or the like...

But this being the place that it is, it's nearly impossible to convince someone of something contrary to what they've already convinced themselves....People would rather believe that the FDA and the federal government are up to no good than to believe that there are doctors out there who practice some really crazy #$@%....

A2D

a reply to: GetHyped
I don't believe everything I hear, still would like a link.

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: crazyewok

The vast majority of childhood cancer cases are Leukemia.

These cases are rising year on year...on average a rise of around 10% per year, even in areas, such as Europe, where birthrates are down.

Absolute rubbish.

In the UK, for example, cancer incident rates increased by a total of 16% (not per year) since the late 70s. However incidence rates have been falling for the last decade. They are in fact down 9% in the UK over this period.

source: www.cancerresearchuk.org...-Zero

Over 99% of cancers occur in adults.

and is actually THE leading cause of death among children, and young adults.

More nonsense. It accounts for 15% of mortality in 1 to 9 year-olds in the UK. When you get to 15-19 year old children it only accounts for 13% of deaths, whereas injuries and poison account for 42%.

source: www.ncb.org.uk...

originally posted by: GetHyped

originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: DeathSlayer

An unsourced claim around a long debunked myth (that vaccines cause autism) is not exactly suitable for the Science & Technology forum.

I think that CERTAIN vaccines have been proven that autism is a major factor among blacks and other races...

Non they haven't in the slightest. Only the scientifically illiterate quacks cling to this long debunked myth.

Oh, but they have and the name calling is silly.

a reply to: reldra

articles? studies? anything scientific and sourced appropriately?

Here's one...but it doesn't support the claim that vaccines may be linked to autism...in fact it disputes the claim...

oxford journals

Twenty epidemiologic studies have shown that neither thimerosal nor MMR vaccine causes autism. These studies have been performed in several countries by many different investigators who have employed a multitude of epidemiologic and statistical methods. The large size of the studied populations has afforded a level of statistical power sufficient to detect even rare associations. These studies, in concert with the biological implausibility that vaccines overwhelm a child's immune system, have effectively dismissed the notion that vaccines cause autism. Further studies on the cause or causes of autism should focus on more-promising leads.

A2D

a reply to: reldra

It's not name calling when it's the truth:

quack 2 (kwăk)
n.
1. An untrained person who pretends to be a physician and dispenses medical advice and treatment.
2. A charlatan; a mountebank.
adj.
Relating to or characteristic of a quack: a quack cure.
intr.v. quacked, quack·ing, quacks
To act as a medical quack or a charlatan.