UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

originally posted by: Freeborn

Project Fear II seems to have kicked into overdrive just as EU negotiators seemed to be adopting a more conciliatory approach.
I firmly believe its in everyone's best interests to agree some sort of Free Trade deal.

Priject Fear I being the one used to scare the Scottish populace into voting against their independence?

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: Freeborn

Hmm. What about Sadiq Khan? Second Brexit vote? Or does this not count, because "City of London", "Khan", "Politician"?

Hmm...... What about Sadiq Khan? A man who tries to score cheap points

by making fun of the democratically elected leader of another country

rather than concentrating on doing the job he was elected to do. He has

yet to do anything of any consequence to warrant approval.

Because you speak of "the will of the people", who in my opinion began researching "EU" juuuust after the Brexit vote.

In your opinion? You obviously think the 'people' of the UK are

stupid..... well, I've got news for you they are NOT, they have been researching

and observing the effects on the EU on the UK over the past 45 years and they

DO NOT LIKE IT.

And this should not be neglected, that "the people" have more knowledge about the Pros and Cons now than 2016.

It is not wise to underestimate the people of the UK!!!

So that was a win for the Brexit only because "the people" had a very low level of insight into the possible future problems?

Life didn't begin in 1973....

There was life before the EU

Does this not concern you, that the first Brexit won mostly by ignorance?

YOUR opinion again

Patronising much

And before 1973 our streets were not filled with so many Europeans, there were school places for our kids near home, NHS was not drowning and you didn't have so many Europeans and others ahead of you in the queue! At car boot sales everybody spoke English, now almost everybody speaks another European language or the accents are eastern European. Social housing was available for young adults etc etc!

You clearly live in the wrong part of the UK then, your experiences and opinions certainly don't match where I live. Our streets are not filled with so many Europeans, there are school places for our kids near home, NHS is not drowning and we don't have many Europeans and others ahead of you in the queue! At car boot sales everybody speaks English. Social housing was available for young adults etc etc. (in fact I was awarded an emergency 2 bed council house within a month).

Methinks the bloke doth protest too much...

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Freeborn

Project Fear II seems to have kicked into overdrive just as EU negotiators seemed to be adopting a more conciliatory approach.
I firmly believe its in everyone's best interests to agree some sort of Free Trade deal.

Priject Fear I being the one used to scare the Scottish populace into voting against their independence?

Haha yes, the fear that made Scots # out of voting to leave the UK, the same fear the Scots have which has made them # out of leaving the EU.
# houses pmsl.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Freeborn

Project Fear II seems to have kicked into overdrive just as EU negotiators seemed to be adopting a more conciliatory approach.
I firmly believe its in everyone's best interests to agree some sort of Free Trade deal.

Priject Fear I being the one used to scare the Scottish populace into voting against their independence?

Haha yes, the fear that made Scots # out of voting to leave the UK, the same fear the Scots have which has made them # out of leaving the EU.
# houses pmsl.

In all seriousness though, Project Fear was what the No campaign was branded during the Scottish Referendum. They applied similar tactics to Priject Fear II

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: Freeborn

Project Fear II seems to have kicked into overdrive just as EU negotiators seemed to be adopting a more conciliatory approach.
I firmly believe its in everyone's best interests to agree some sort of Free Trade deal.

Priject Fear I being the one used to scare the Scottish populace into voting against their independence?

Haha yes, the fear that made Scots # out of voting to leave the UK, the same fear the Scots have which has made them # out of leaving the EU.
# houses pmsl.

In all seriousness though, Project Fear was what the No campaign was branded during the Scottish Referendum. They applied similar tactics to Priject Fear II

He has a point!

Jeremy Hunt draws EU ire over Soviet prison comparison

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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

He has a point!

Jeremy Hunt draws EU ire over Soviet prison comparison

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He certainly has

When one draws fire from *Lords* and *Sirs* you can be sure your on the

right track and doing something right.

TM knows full well that the EU wont accept any plan but theirs, not even a FAKEXIT plan because they do not want us to leave and are hoping there will be a 2nd referendum (but there wont). Bye bye protectionist jail club that will never be able to generate sustainable growth because of trade restrictions and the in-balance in nation state economies GDP's etc etc!!!

Brussels rejects plea from Theresa May to break Brexit deadlock

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Boris Johnson warns Theresa May's Chequers plan will 'give rise to far right'

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I don't buy this and too much property is purchased by foreigners which is pushing up prices which does not help those needing to get on the property ladder, like hard working nurses in places like London etc.

Average house price inches up in September but experts warn chaotic Brexit will 'hit sterile property market for six'

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I do also but not under a FAKEXIT plan!

Theresa May sees a future ‘full of promise’ for post-Brexit Britain

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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite
House prices will either slow down or could even decrease, post Brexit.
Just basic economics of supply and demand.

When we leave the EU we should have less NET immigration and that should impact house prices. House prices are ridiculously overpriced anyway and I say that being a home owner myself. On the other hand rents should also decrease.

But this all depends on our government. They may decide to build less homes which could counter the decrease in demand. Or they could even increase immigration levels...

That's the beauty with having our democracy back.
If we don't like the governments actions, we can vote them out!

originally posted by: 83Liberty
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite
House prices will either slow down or could even decrease, post Brexit.
Just basic economics of supply and demand.

When we leave the EU we should have less NET immigration and that should impact house prices. House prices are ridiculously overpriced anyway and I say that being a home owner myself. On the other hand rents should also decrease.

But this all depends on our government. They may decide to build less homes which could counter the decrease in demand. Or they could even increase immigration levels...

That's the beauty with having our democracy back.
If we don't like the governments actions, we can vote them out!

House prices have been slowing down in general already and this was forecast a while ago. BREXIT may cause an additional reset but it is needed anyway to avoid another bust in the next few years.

Brexit: Dublin expects Britain to make new backstop proposals

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Taoiseach in Brussels for Brexit, backstop talks

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Brexit countdown: after Tory conference what happens next?

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Revealed: May's secret bid to get Labour to back Brexit deal

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Amazing!

Juncker: Brexit deal could be reached within weeks

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originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite




Revealed: May's secret bid to get Labour to back Brexit deal

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Hardly a secret. Part of this charm offensive was an article she penned for the Guardian as reported on the BBC News.

FINALLY.....A bias of the *unbiased* BBC is being exposed......


ITV’s political editor who spent nine years at the corporation, has accused the BBC of not being impartial and said it had *neglected the effect* the EU was having on British families.

* Robert Peston admits BBC was 'patronising' and 'got it wrong on immigration' by ignoring viewers' worries

* ITV political editor says the BBC got 'confused' about what impartiality meant

* He admitted he 'patronised' viewers by failing to listen to migration concerns

* Says journalists neglected the effect globalisation was having on 'millions'

The BBC ignored how migration was affecting millions of its viewers, Robert Peston has admitted.

ITV’s political editor, who spent nine years at the corporation, accused the BBC of not being impartial and said it had ‘neglected the effect’ the EU was having on British families.

‘I love the BBC but I did feel that during the Brexit campaign they slightly got confused about what impartial journalism meant,’ said Peston, who left the BBC in 2015.

‘For too long, people like me had a particular view of the benefits of globalisation and we simply neglected the effect it was having on millions of our citizens.’

He said that journalists including himself had ‘patronised’ viewers by failing to listen to their worries about migration.

‘For too long, people like me had a particular view of the benefits of globalisation and we simply neglected the effect it was having on millions of our citizens.’

He said that journalists including himself had ‘patronised’ viewers by failing to listen to their worries about migration.

In fact, it was also dislocating hundreds of thousands to millions of lives, and those people’s lives had been radically changed by immigration.

'It is not, in my view, racist to be concerned if the composition of your community changes by something like 10 or 15 per cent over a very small number of years.’

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Leaked emails reveal DUP chief ‘ready for no-deal Brexit’

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