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UK Referendum 23 June 2016 - Will it be an EU BREXIT or Not?

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posted on Aug, 2 2018 @ 12:10 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia



Patriotic, optimistic and a world expert on trade deals: Why Theresa May must listen to top aide Crawford Falcone on Brexit

In the office of Crawford Falconer, Chief Trade Negotiation Adviser at the Department of International Trade, a man of immense experience in such matters. And, in contrast to the doomsayers, his message about Brexit is one of almost unbounded optimism.

He is convinced that after a period of psychological and economic adjustment to being outside the EU, Britain’s fortunes will thrive. He cannot understand why people are ‘so negative about our future’, and says the world is ‘begging’ to do trade deals with us.

Falconer is a man with 25 years of experience in international trade negotiations. He was New Zealand’s ambassador in Britain (although born in Scotland, he was brought up a Kiwi), as well as his adopted country’s permanent representative to the World Trade Organisation (WTO).His verdict on a post-Brexit Britain could not be more upbeat.

‘The opportunities are enormous,’ he told the Sunday Times. ‘There are so many, where do I start? In ten years, maybe even quicker, people will look back and say: “Oh, why were we so negative about our future?” ’

The Washington-based International Monetary Fund forecasts that over the next ten to 15 years almost all significant global growth will originate outside Europe.

By 2020, China’s middle class — who are powerful engines of economic growth — will have expanded to 600 million people. India’s already numbers up to 300 million. It is estimated there will be 1.1 billion African middle classes by 2060.

Those populations, Falconer explains, will be desperate for British services and goods.

‘The world is the UK’s oyster,’ he says. ‘We produce the best professional services in the world. Our banks are the best in the world. Our insurance companies the most reliable. Our architects, our designers, our lawyers, our accountants: they are world-class.

We have intellectual property rights to die for. It is these services that the fastest-growing economies in Asia and Africa crave. The world is begging for the UK to be able to trade with it. We’ll be pushing on an open door.’

He sees huge export opportunities in goods from cars to aircraft wings and foodstuffs. ‘The world is crying out for protein and safe food generally. In East Asia, that’s what they want. They don’t trust their domestic production, with good reason. The UK makes world-class produce. We can now negotiate with countries in a way that’s specifically tailored to getting our salmon and our venison on tables.’

As well as a being a powerhouse for financial services, Britain is home to Europe’s top four research universities and dominates in sectors such as popular music, computer gaming, video and publishing.

We’re world-beaters in pharmaceutical and aerospace research. Our technology know-how is envied across the globe, with Chinese, Japanese and American digital firms constantly on the prowl to buy our leading innovative firms.

In the past six months, Chinese firms have invested £1.7 bn in UK technology.

But the fact is that, despite Brussels bravado about the efficacy of a Single Market, EU member states have suffered over recent years because their Brussels rule-setters have been too inward-looking. They are obsessed by trade within the EU — to the detriment of the potential of wider possibilities across the whole world.

he shape of global trade is changing before our eyes — and it is trade outside Europe that we must encourage.

Anyone who listens to those who want the UK to stay in the EU would think that Brexit was a crazy act of self-harm.

The truth is otherwise. Ever since the Brexit vote, our economy has prospered. Unemployment is at its lowest level since the Seventies.



Well life out of the shackles of the EU looks good to me.


Can't be soon enough for me.


www.dailymail.co.uk...
Great minds think a like!



posted on Aug, 2 2018 @ 12:11 AM
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And a bloody good luck!


A no-deal Brexit will not happen. Here’s why

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posted on Aug, 2 2018 @ 12:16 AM
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Seems to me if this is true that the EU (France & Germany) are very afraid of a "No Deal" BREXIT!! Which is what I have thought all along! And it is a shame that TM was not much stronger and more determined/demanding!


German sources deny Brexit deal offer amid panic in Remain campaign


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posted on Aug, 2 2018 @ 12:18 AM
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Not at all surprised by this!

Boris Johnson re-emerges as the favourite to succeed Theresa May as Tory party leader with Sajid Javid in third and Michael Gove fourth


www.msn.com... d-and-michael-gove-fourth/ar-BBLltH6?li=BBoPWjQ



posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 12:16 AM
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Why stubbornness is the secret to Britishness

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posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 06:21 AM
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I find it amazing that TM has to threaten the EU with a FAKEXIT. Surprised they don't jump at the chance!



Accept Chequers... or it's no deal on Brexit: PM issues an ultimatum to the French as cracks show in EU's resolve

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posted on Aug, 3 2018 @ 06:23 AM
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Here is the one way to end Theresa May’s Brexit gridlock

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posted on Aug, 4 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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'No deal' Brexit now odds on warns Liam Fox - as he blames Europe for not agreeing to Britain's plan

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posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 03:39 AM
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David Davis: EU risks misjudging UK over no-deal Brexit

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posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 04:27 AM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite



i think every negotiation and meeting with any EU politician and particularly

Micheal Barnier should be preceeded with this >>>>


**EU’s own Lisbon Treaty could legally require Brussels to work towards a
deal. Article 8 of the treaty states that the EU must “develop a special relationship with neighbouring countries, aiming to establish an area of prosperity and good neighbourliness, founded on the values of the Union and characterised by close and peaceful relations based on cooperation”.**



This should also be printed LARGE as headings on ALL and any paperwork to do with

Brexit.....Just in case they forget to remember that is their OWN EU treaty.







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posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 05:41 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite



i think every negotiation and meeting with any EU politician and particularly

Micheal Barnier should be preceeded with this >>>>


**EU’s own Lisbon Treaty could legally require Brussels to work towards a
deal. Article 8 of the treaty states that the EU must “develop a special relationship with neighbouring countries, aiming to establish an area of prosperity and good neighbourliness, founded on the values of the Union and characterised by close and peaceful relations based on cooperation”.**



This should also be printed LARGE as headings on ALL and any paperwork to do with

Brexit.....Just in case they forget to remember that is their OWN EU treaty.






Not only should it be on BREXIT paperwork it should be shown on television when referring to BREXIT status to remind the world! It should also be a prerequisite that the EU acknowledges this prior to any further meetings taking place so that it is clear for all.



posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 05:43 AM
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The problem is a No deal is better than a Chequers FAKEXIT!


Theresa May confident of reaching Brexit deal, sources say

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posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 05:58 AM
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Bollocks to them.

Enough of pandering to the EU and begging their permission to leave.
Why on earth should we pay them one single penny?

I wholeheartedly agree with some sort of Free Trade Agreement, its obviously mutually beneficial, but the rest of it is nonsense.
We voted to leave and we will.
Tell them to bugger off, no more negotiating - as from March 29th 2019 we will no longer be part of the EU, end of story.

I suspect that before then they'll come creeping back to us wanting a deal....but I don't really care if the don't.

Short term pain maybe but for definitely long term gain!



posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 06:00 AM
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The end of the UK as we know it...........................................................BS

Rich, reckless Brexit zealots are fighting a new class war

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posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Bollocks to them.

Enough of pandering to the EU and begging their permission to leave.
Why on earth should we pay them one single penny?

I wholeheartedly agree with some sort of Free Trade Agreement, its obviously mutually beneficial, but the rest of it is nonsense.
We voted to leave and we will.
Tell them to bugger off, no more negotiating - as from March 29th 2019 we will no longer be part of the EU, end of story.

I suspect that before then they'll come creeping back to us wanting a deal....but I don't really care if the don't.

Short term pain maybe but for definitely long term gain!
I harbor similar sentiments! There will be some short term issues but much prosperity and other trade opportunities later!!



posted on Aug, 6 2018 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Bollocks to them.
Enough of pandering to the EU and begging their permission to leave.
Why on earth should we pay them one single penny?



I have never been able to fathom that one out!!!

They call it a divorce? but in a divorce one doesn't pay off the

other rather there is a division of assets.




I wholeheartedly agree with some sort of Free Trade Agreement, its obviously mutually beneficial, but the rest of it is nonsense.
We voted to leave and we will.
Tell them to bugger off, no more negotiating - as from March 29th 2019 we will no longer be part of the EU, end of story.



We shouldn't need a free trade agreement, after all as they buy more

from us they will have a fairly large deficit/ hole to fill, and because

it takes them up to 10 years to negotiate trade deals they will be in for

a scarcity an d shortfall for some time if they cut us loose?




I suspect that before then they'll come creeping back to us wanting a deal....but I don't really care if the don't.

Short term pain maybe but for definitely long term gain!



Couldn't agree more.

I always did have mixed feelings as to how a *remainer* (Theresa May)

would be able to deliver us a successful Brexit without too many

concessions to the EU ..... which makes me in favour of a no deal !!!

Any pain will be worth the long term gain.



posted on Aug, 7 2018 @ 08:37 PM
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So now BREXIT itself is to blame for the current for the status of the EU BREXIT negotiations and impasse and not the EU or Remainers (including TM) who have all a long compromised our position with the EU. The UK Lions roar was like a birds tweet. Is there any wonder we are in the position of having to settle for a FAKEXIT or a much healthier "No Deal" which is what we should have gone for from the start. Remember those words from TM, "No deal is better than a bad deal"!


The mess of Brexit should be blamed on Brexit itself – along with the politicians who oversold it

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posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 01:48 PM
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Does anyone else feel there is going to be a Conservative leadership challenge by Boris Johnson in the coming months?

The recent debacle about his Burka/face veil comments is one reason why I think this. He used colourful language on purpose to get media attention but still manage to keep the support of the majority of Conservative voters in what he said.

This would be fab for Brexit if it does happen, and he wins, of course.

I also have a feeling there may be another general election in the not too distant future, hence the sudden media assault on Jeremy Corbyn and Labours inability to shake of their anti-semitism tag. They are terrified by Labours continued popularity (recent polls got Labour winning), so they are starting the dirty tricks early.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: 83Liberty
Does anyone else feel there is going to be a Conservative leadership challenge by Boris Johnson in the coming months?


Possibly...... he and Davis resigned almost together, they may have a plan?

Only problem being I hope it doesn't derail the leaving date!!




The recent debacle about his Burka/face veil comments is one reason why I think this. He used colourful language on purpose to get media attention but still manage to keep the support of the majority of Conservative voters in what he said.



Very Ukipish I thought ...... flying by their past success and the fact that

there are noises of a resurgence!!




This would be fab for Brexit if it does happen, and he wins, of course.



It is probably his ambition, but I'm not convinced he can drop that bumbling

Inspector Colombo [Peter Falk] image he projects ....... not a nice look for a

leader?




I also have a feeling there may be another general election in the not too distant future, hence the sudden media assault on Jeremy Corbyn and Labours inability to shake of their anti-semitism tag. They are terrified by Labours continued popularity (recent polls got Labour winning), so they are starting the dirty tricks early.



OMG I hope not the country is still not over the previous (last) labour

government .....ta da *things can only get better* la la la and he's still

hanging around with his anti Brexit stance.



posted on Aug, 8 2018 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: 83Liberty
Does anyone else feel there is going to be a Conservative leadership challenge by Boris Johnson in the coming months?

The recent debacle about his Burka/face veil comments is one reason why I think this. He used colourful language on purpose to get media attention but still manage to keep the support of the majority of Conservative voters in what he said.

This would be fab for Brexit if it does happen, and he wins, of course.

I also have a feeling there may be another general election in the not too distant future, hence the sudden media assault on Jeremy Corbyn and Labours inability to shake of their anti-semitism tag. They are terrified by Labours continued popularity (recent polls got Labour winning), so they are starting the dirty tricks early.


I have said for a while now that something was cooking and when Boris didn't throw his hand in to be PM before was because he knew full well he couldn't win at that time and needed to wait until TM f.ck up and he probably knowing her that she would in time! I can well see the challenge coming before long because TM's credibility is almost rock bottom. Also, it is no coincidence that Corbyn is also in the sh.t so it looks like Boris the perceived Burk/a my many may be much smarter than people give him credit for. He will be PM it is just a case of when! And in my view the sooner the better so we can get on with a proper BREXIT instead of a FAKEXIT (non-exit)!




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