The True Mark of the Beast is Money!

Mark of the beast is the cell phone:

-666 in Jewish gematria is WWW. the world wide web is the medium by which the beast works.

-phones are used in your hand or put to your head.

-" and there was given to it to give a spirit to the image of the beast, that also the image of the beast may speak..." (Rev 13:15) - This also fits.... Cell phones are literally talking images.

-Even homeless people have cell phones (all people rich and poor will have them)

-pay-by-phone is soon to be the preferred method of payment because it ensures transaction security and allows the phone companies to monopolize credit card capabilities as well: When you can't purchase goods without your phone or the internet, you'll know the time is near.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

In 1 Kings 10, the weight of gold that came to Solomon yearly was...six hundred and sixty six talents of gold.

IMO, you are correct, but it will be more than that. It will basically be money, or what we will be forced to trade with...but there will be an element of ultimate submission or surrender involved. It is not that God will not take those who've received the mark, He cannot. We may not be too far off from the series of events that would put the world in a position to reconstruct its entire trading system.

The reason people get so riled when Jesus comes into the conversation, is because of the rulers of the darkness of this age that have their tentacles in them. You can be free, free in deed.

a reply to: cooperton

Speaking of the beast's image...

Luke 20
24 "Show me a denarius. Whose image and inscription are on it?" "Caesar's," they replied.

Jesus mentions the IMAGE on a denarius being that of Caesar. Money is the mark, Caesar (TPTB) are the beast.

Someone cannot serve both God and money at the same time, meaning money is at enmity with God. We all serve money by working a job.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Money is a good candidate to represent the mark of the (Second) beast.

- But.... The second beast: with two horns like a lamb worships the first beast...It seams, but i dont think so because it is a part of the Deception.

....He exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast

The second beast grooms and deceiveth us to Accept and worship the first beast. And he is doing this in the sight of the first Beast (God). We are being groomed and deceived to worship Jesus/God... according to the exact image the second beast have deceived us to make of the first beast before him.

He deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. This sounds a lot like the image we have made of Jesus to me.

He causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

My personal opinion is that the mark must have something to do With the first beast (Jesus/God). Because the second beast exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him. The mark is probably related to the image of the religion. A star or some other logo that is related. The number of his name...can only be Your personal ID. AND the name of the beast is: You.

---Remember: I saw a beast rise up out of the sea, The sea represents us... You and me. The second beast is who ever takes the mark, and puts their ID and name on it.

How would the beast system have any controll if everyone had the same Mark, Number and name either on their right hand or forhead?

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: yuppa

That's ignoring the fact that the antichrist is already here and has been for a long time.

1 John 2
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

Ok but have any of them BEEN ABLE TO PERFORM MIRACLES? Have any on e of them been fatally shot in th e head and risen back up as if nothing has happenned? No they have not. No You know good and well which Anti-christ i meant but are trying to be cute.

The Marks not being used its LITERALLY a mark that will be visible. Forgetting that little detail perhaps?
And Signing a contract isnt swearing your soul to a company. Your trying to get stars it seems.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
The Mark is not being used yet, but they are setting up for it. Jesus worked as a carpenter and made money. Even when he was performing miracles there was money kept by his disciples. Judas was the purser.

Heres what I think is going to happen.... The US is 19 trillion in debt. Its the set up. When the debt can no longer be paid, the dollar will go, the Euro will fall apart too. All fiat currencies will fall apart. The world will grind to a stop. The masses will riot, loot, and murder. A socialist type of man will step forward with a plan that sounds great to the world ( He is the AntiChrist). He will be supported by the pope( the false Prophet). The plan will likely include a computerised banking system using a chip for everyone, so that every single movement of money will be taxed. Every purchase. Everything earned by every person on the planet.
I believe it will likely go down by or during 2017, proceeded by a severe stock market crash in all countries. Gold will have less value then bread, so it is likely that a nuclear war causes a nuclear winter so grain cant be grown. People who accept the chip will get sores all over their body. The people who dont accept it may already be dead by then

Bingo. This thread is turning into a discussion on whether money is good or bad, instead of what the OP was suggesting; that money is the mark of the beast. Money is not the mark, though. It is exactly what you just described, an actual microchip which people will be "marked" with. John had his visions, documented in Revelations, of the mark of the beast being given by tattoo. He most likely saw a tiny microchip capsule being injected with a needle, but not knowing any of that technology, he could only call it a tattoo. Just like the futuristic visions of the bible, such as "giant locusts made of breast plate armor flying through the sky, making a loud horrendous noise"...which is percieved by some, to be a vision of airplanes.

It is also quite a coincidence that the mark of the beast will be on the back of the hand or the forehead. Skip ahead to 2016, and the makers of the microchip implant say there are only 2 areas on the body with thin enough skin to hold the correct temperature to maintain the chip: the back of the hand and the forehead.

money is only a medium of exchange, apparently it's not the mark of beast that you are talking about

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Only problem with this theory is no one is forcing anyone to take it(money) and you can buy and sell without it( credit, and it doesn't require money to sell something).

Plus the mark is a symbol you are forced to put on your body.

Still intriguing and you do have great points, but they had money when it was written, and didn't have the mark of the beast. Plus it's a prophecy, so it needs to be something not in existence at the time of its writing.

a reply to: anotherdaytoday

How could trade be possible without a proper medium of exchange? Money is the only solution to double coincidence of wants

originally posted by: thetroll
a reply to: anotherdaytoday

How could trade be possible without a proper medium of exchange? Money is the only solution to double coincidence of wants

Physical trade can be possible With the Exchange and moving arround of digital numbers.

The mark can not be physical Money since every one is going to have this mark physically on their right hand or on their forehead.

The Mark is Three Things: Logo, Your ID number and Your name. You will only be able to do trade if you put Your ID and Your Name together With the Logo/Mark.

a reply to: anotherdaytoday

Someone said it's greed, but he forgets that money makes greed. Money increases greed and ruthlessness

Not directed at you specifically but what all of you have missed is that if we had real money backed by gold we would have a saner world. At the moment when people chase money its as a consequence of inflation. Inflation is a weapon used by the Governments to pay off their debts with tomorrows deflated money. The reason people try to "work" money is to try to stay ahead of inflation; hoping to build some sort of nest egg for the future.

Greed is a value judgement. One may only need $100 per week to live on another $1000. It will never be an even playing field.

pastor arnold murray claims its the work of your hands and mind. that imlants or money is not the true mark.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Also, leaves are nature's toilet paper. No need to wipe with your hands

And in a modern city you would like to see sewerage dumped on the streets? Lets be real here.

a reply to: spy66
The definition of money is anything that's generally accepted as a medium of exchange, the face value of the digital number such as demand deposits. Do u mean that the mark of beast is some device that is installed to your physical body to perform the function of currency?

Imo, general price level is controlled by organisation like central banks(illuminati). They try to control all human being which is important for establishing the new world order.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
Not directed at you specifically but what all of you have missed is that if we had real money backed by gold we would have a saner world. At the moment when people chase money its as a consequence of inflation.

I have thought about this, but disagree. Actually it doesn't matter if it's backed by gold or trouser buttons, the mere fact, that it is a "universal currency" makes people long for it. You can buy everything... well almost. Money is god. It makes you a god.

originally posted by: ExNihiloRed

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: ExNihiloRed

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: intrptr

Maybe in today's society we "need" money, but in reality, money is not a "need". Food is a need, water is a need, money is just the middle man we they have put between us and the things we need in order to survive. No other species uses money in order to survive, only humans.

No other species is civilized.

"Civilization" is not the same as civil behavior. In that regard many animals behave with more "civility" than most people.

I'm starting to think you just like to nay-say. I meant "part of a civilization."

More like nit pick. Sorry about that. Another example, ants and honey bees.

They make huge colonies some of them. Comparing an ant colony to a human city, theres no ant 'crime', or ants that rip each other off, rape, murder, poverty, unknown.

How civilized are humans again?

originally posted by: thetroll
a reply to: spy66
The definition of money is anything that's generally accepted as a medium of exchange, the face value of the digital number such as demand deposits. Do u mean that the mark of beast is some device that is installed to your physical body to perform the function of currency?

The mark is a beakon/tracking device that represents just you. It can not represent anyone else. So it must have Your Birth ID numbers and birth name. Because the mark represents you. It is Your ID.

Its purpose is to Connect you to the Resources/Money you have to Your disposal. If you dont have this beakon you will not have acces to Your account. You will not be able to claim that what you own is Your property. Therefor you can not sell something you cant prove is Yours. You will not be able to work without the mark because you dont have a account to receive Your salary on, or an account were the authority can take taxes from.

You will just be a ordinary humanbeing without property rights, common rights or have acces to anything if you dont have this mark/ID.

The mark will act like a key to Your salvation that grants you your rights to enjoy the privileges that the beast provide. Like; A home to live in, fresh water, Food, electrisity, transportation, work and benefits and so on.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I don't think birds using shiny stuff to attract mates is the same thing or on the same level as our monetary system.

Thats why I said (yah, I know). The point being that its not money or bling or shiny stuff per se, its out attitude towards materialism, striving for and amassing money and stuff.

Birds do not hoard those shiny things and keep other birds from acquiring them.

Birds can be very territorial, will fight to the death to keep their "castle" from being intruded upon. You should see the Humming birds around my yard and above them the local crows and hawks fighting over territory and food. sources.

I'm not saying you're a bad person for using money, it's unavoidable with our current society, even I use it, but I do recognize it for what it is: a tool used to enslave us.

Oh, good. Absolutely agree with that.

Matthew 6
26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

I lived 'homeless' for long stretches during my life. I know what that means. I know what it means to truly live by faith alone. I have this story I tell abut a ten dollar bill, blowing in the wind…

As far as worshiping money and replacing our spiritual fulfillment with the pursuit of money and stuff…

Matt. 19:21

21Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." 22But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.…

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Money doesn't enslave us. Our beliefs and actions enslave us. Money is not the mark of the beast. It's what some do with large amounts of money that is evil. Consider also that we all have some of the beast in us..whether it's large or small. Whether it's constrained or free. It's our actions that define what is to be beast.