Scalia Death Suspicious "We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head."

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MotherMayEye

My point was actually 'less- specific'. Trump just happened to be the current Republican front runner.
Hillary is no longer their 'sure thing'...and they are scared because they were counting on her carrying out their agenda and appointing their next simpatico Justices.

Also, I think the disconnect between what you meant and how I responded comes from the fact that I believe the election systems in Florida and Ohio were hijacked after the 2000 and 2004 elections thanks to the National Voter Reform Act.

I don't think it matters how the people actually vote...it just needs to seem plausible when Bernie wins. I think Trump can make it seem plausible. And Hillary, too, thanks to her email scandal that will never see her go to prison in a million years. It will just explain the demise of her campaign.

ETA: Keep in mind that Hillary dragged Obama over the finish line in 2008 by keeping her name on the Michigan ballot while Obama removed his. He was gifted 600,000 votes cast for her in Michigan and most of the Undecided votes, too. Hillary is not power hungry for the presidency. She is hungry for an *ahem* global position and MONEY.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT

I personally think that Scalia needed to be taken care of now, at the end of Obama's term, rather than cast a bad cloud over Bernie's eventual presidency.

I believe that Bernie will wind up the nominee and smelling like a rose because he never had to throw mud thanks to Hillary's email scandal dominating the headlines.

Good ol' Bernie. He just wants to spend all that money for the good of the people and all. But I don't think all that money will go anywhere except into the stinkiest pockets.

All my own opinions...

That may be...but Obama and the Pope definitely do not want Bernie to get the nomination. Hillary is their choice.

a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

a reply to: IAMTAT

I know this is OT but also, keep in mind, that we don't get exit polls anymore. Remember, some people won't vote if they hear about exit polling and will just call it a day thinking the exit polls have already shown who the winner is.

Courtesy of the Florida 2000 election.

Without exit polls, voters have no way of verifying the actual count is correct or not. The elections have been hijacked by the two parties who scheme together.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

If the 'Establishment' wants Bernie, the last thing they are going to do is let on to that fact. The climate, right now, is so anti-establishment it would be stupid to let on if Bernie is The Chosen One 2.0.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

And what's more of a statement, however, are all the reasons Obama gave, in 2008, why Hillary is unfit to be president. And even Michelle Obama stated she did not think she could vote for Hillary if she won the nomination, in 2008.

What has Hillary done since then to change those opinions? Her handling of Benghazi? The poor judgment regarding her email server?

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

If the 'Establishment' wants Bernie, the last thing they are going to do is let on to that fact. The climate, right now, is so anti-establishment it would be stupid to let on if Bernie is The Chosen One 2.0.

It's the same with the establishment of BOTH parties. Republican establishment want's Bush...Democrat establishment want Hillary. Sanders and Trump are in their way.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Also, I am enjoying getting some of this off my chest. Thank you for allowing me to.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

If the 'Establishment' wants Bernie, the last thing they are going to do is let on to that fact. The climate, right now, is so anti-establishment it would be stupid to let on if Bernie is The Chosen One 2.0.

It's the same with the establishment of BOTH parties. Republican establishment want's Bush...Democrat establishment want Hillary. Sanders and Trump are in their way.

I think there is one Establishment. If you were going to manipulate America's wealth, wouldn't you need to essentially control both parties?

The Bushes and Clintons go way back. Mena is a testament to that. Those families control both parties for one purpose. It's clear Bush is going nowhere.

And when neither Bush nor Hillary win the nominations, the People will totally believe the elections are not rigged and manipulated from within.

But they are.

The candidate with the biggest spending plan is likely the choice of the Establishment. That's Bernie.

The Bushes will profit. The Clintons will profit. And Bernie will be a puppet.

Nothing that comes out of anyone's mouth can be trusted.

a reply to: MotherMayEye
Keep in mind, all 3 Bushs...AND Bill Clinton are Knights of Malta, as well.

EDIT:
Bush is of the conservative side of The Order, which has fallen out of favor with the Vatican...like Scalia...The Clinton's are of the liberal side, which is now the choice of this new progressive Pope.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I did not know that. I have homework to do on the Knights of Malta.

BTW, did you know the founder of the EU and Bilderbergs -- Joseph Retinger -- was a Polish Socialist (much like Bernie) who advocated for Fabian Socialism?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I did not.
The Knights, I believe are connected to the Rothchilds.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Keep in mind, all 3 Bushs...AND Bill Clinton are Knights of Malta, as well.

EDIT:
Bush is of the conservative side of The Order, which has fallen out of favor with the Vatican...like Scalia...The Clinton's are of the liberal side, which is now the choice of this new progressive Pope.

I think you can replace 'progressive' with Fabian Socialism.

If anything describes what is going on in global and U.S. politics. It's Fabian socialism. They achieve their objectives through infiltration and covert means...slowly...one issue at a time..drawing us closer and closer to their hideous goals.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I did not.
The Knights, I believe are connected to the Rothchilds.

Well it would make sense.

There is no doubt in my mind that there is a network of people and groups that get the job done..and I believe it is a wide web.

A huge pyramid scheme and only the ones at the top are all-seeing.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

I believe just the opposite.

He was asked maybe yesterday to choose between Hillary and Bernie and refused, but did acknowledge that he "knew" Hillary better.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Yup.

The Fabians have been around since the late 1800s

and The Fabian Society founded the London School of Economics and Political Science in 1895

and...

Good exposing video ! As usual and in this case again no exception The Fabian Society was controlled by The Jesuit order through High Level Scottish Rite Freemasonry (Grand Lodge of England)
I would like to add that Masonic Labor Zionist David Ben Gurion also has been a Fabian Society member aswell as Karl Marx ct there are hundreds of Fabian Socialist Labor Zionists in the CFR and most of them are not Jews but High level Roman Catholics

According to Eric Jon Phelps The Fabian Society is not precisely the prerunner of Labor Zionism , that started way earlier with Napoleon , Columbus and yes Ignatius Loyola himself.

interesting video

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

I believe just the opposite.

He was asked maybe yesterday to choose between Hillary and Bernie and refused, but did acknowledge that he "knew" Hillary better.

Jay Carney: Obama supports Hillary Clinton

Obama has maintained neutrality in the primary and recently met with Clinton's opponent, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, at the White House. Still, his comments on the race have seemed to favor his former secretary of state, if only slightly.

Jay Carney told CNN's Brooke Baldwin on Wednesday that's no accident -- and the President does want Clinton to win.

"I don't think there is any doubt that he wants Hillary to win the nomination and believes that she would be the best candidate in the fall and the most effective as president in carrying forward what he's achieved," said Carney, a CNN contributor.

The White House declined to comment on Carney's comments Wednesday.

www.cnn.com...

Alright since this is going there, and I really didn't want to venture to far into tin hat territory, but bugger all if this whole thing just doesn't scream it from on high.

THE KNIGHTS OF MALTA
by H.J.A. Sire
book review by Fred 0. Wyant
Presented to the members of Nebraska Masonic Societas Rosicruciana
In Civitatibus Foederatis, Jan 18, 2001.

This work by H.J.A. Sire is purported to be the most complete work of the Order of St John, or Knights Hospitaller, known successively as the Knights of Rhodes and of Malta. This order was founded in Jersualem in the 11th Century and continues today. It may surprise many to learn that it maintains traditional rights of sovereignty and has diplomatic relations established with an increasing number of countries. Membership in the modern Order is over ten thousand and they continue nine centuries of hospitaller work throughout the world.

...

It is no secret that the strength and longevity of the Knights of Malta has been closely tied to that of the Popes and of the Catholic States throughout the world.

...

Thirdly, it is an autonomous order of chivalry conferring the titles of knight or dame chiefly on Catholics but also occasionally on non-Catholics of high rank; its status of international sovereignty is linked with this third aspect of its nature, knighthood being conferred by the Grand Master in his capacity as a sovereign prince.” There are a number of prominent Americans such as Peter Grace (he headed the Grace Commission to investigate government waste) who are members. Mr. Grace has been the President of the American Association of the Knights of Malta since 1977.

all emphases mine

source direct .pdf link
I went looking over on scholar.google.com... for anything Knights of Malta related and amongst the findings was this from a google scholar summary of this paywalled document:

The therapeutic properties of Maltese mushroom have been in high regard throughout the centuries. In the sixteenth century, the physicians of the Knights of Malta medieval order began using the plant in their treatments.

And another bit of searching lead here, and forgive the length of the excerpt, but it bears reading and maybe a bit of tightening of you tin hat:

Kennedy: A Life and Times. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, Inc., p. 378.) Joseph Kennedy was in the British branch of the Knights of Malta which is called the Order of St. John. Interestingly, Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis’ sister Lee married Prince Stanislaus Radziwill. The Radziwill family established the Order of St. John of Jerusalem (that’s the Knights of Malta) in Poland in 1610. They also helped establish the Order in the U.S. (See the article on the Knights of Malta this issue.) Another tie in between the Kennedies and the Knights of Malta concerns the Hospice movement. The Kennedy Institute for the Study of Human Reproduction and Bioethics (located at the Jesuit’s Georgetown Univ.) is helping fund the Knights of Malta’s hospice movement in America. In Oct. 1978, the first annual meeting of the National Hospice Organization took place. Sen. Edward Kennedy was one of the two keynote speakers. What is the hospice movement which is being conducted by the Hospitallers (one of the names the Knights of Malta go by)? It is a movement to allow old people "The Right to Die.’ The Knights of Malta have an ancient history of running drugs and in administering mind altering drugs in their hospitals instead of giving medicine. This ancient activity was carried forth into modern times when their St. Christopher’s hospital in London began giving patients Brompton Mixture until they died. Brompton Mixture consists of heroin, coc aine, alcohol, tranquilizers, and chloroform water. This mixture is given in the Knights of Malta hospitals to patients every three hours until they die. Euthanasia, or "mercy killing" may seem like a merciful idea, until a person finds out how the people at the top of the Euthanasia movement view things. They view things similar to the satanist Adolf Hitier. This view is that it is merciful to get rid of unwanted people. Although the "death" hospice movement seems benevolent at first, it is the conclusion of where the program will end up that is the kicker. Hospice, Inc. which is linked to the elite is also provided funding by the Kaiser Foundation. Besides ties to running drugs, the Kennedy Clan has had their problems with drugs. Ted Kennedy’s daughter Kara was on drugs and ended up in a halfway house. Bobby Kennedy’s kids were busted for drugs. Joan Kennedy was having problems with alcoholism. David Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. both have been addicted to hard drugs in spite of repeated treatments in detoxification centers. David later "O-D"ed (overdosed) on coc aine and died in 1984. Pat’s Kennedy Lawford’s husband was dependent on drugs and alcohol. It is not well known that the Illuminati have long used drugs. Elite people such as the Rothschilds, Winston Churchill in London and the Royal Family were using all coc aine, heroin and opium (not to mention occult ceremonies too). Queen Victoria, thought by many to be such a straight laced lady and her guests regularly used large quantities of coc aine and heroin. The royal summer residence was Balmoral and this was the site of frequent drug use, and one has to wonder what else.

This set off a bit of thought association:

* orders such as the Knights of Malta do not maintain any kind of longevity without adherence to ritual and a strict set of rules

* if they know what plants heal, don't you think that they might know which plants would harm?

* if one secret society has such knowledge, it stands to reason other such societies would possess similar if not same knowledge

* holy shiznickles, did this really happen and a number of people think we have no need to look a little closer?

* Really?

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: IAMTAT


Curious about your thinking behind that...

At least in the case of Obama, it's been publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

I believe just the opposite.

He was asked maybe yesterday to choose between Hillary and Bernie and refused, but did acknowledge that he "knew" Hillary better.

Jay Carney: Obama supports Hillary Clinton

Obama has maintained neutrality in the primary and recently met with Clinton's opponent, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, at the White House. Still, his comments on the race have seemed to favor his former secretary of state, if only slightly.

Jay Carney told CNN's Brooke Baldwin on Wednesday that's no accident -- and the President does want Clinton to win.

"I don't think there is any doubt that he wants Hillary to win the nomination and believes that she would be the best candidate in the fall and the most effective as president in carrying forward what he's achieved," said Carney, a CNN contributor.

The White House declined to comment on Carney's comments Wednesday.

www.cnn.com...

That might be true, but I thought you said that he had publicly stated the same...which he hasn't..

What you actually said is that "it has been publicly stated"...and so has a lot of stuff...Opinions..But Obama hasn't come out and publicly stated he wants Hillary to win.

I appreciate facts and accuracy.