FBI Siege Happening Live On Phonecall

a reply to: mOjOm
I agree and it looks now like that is going to happen. It's the way things should be in a civilized country.

About 3 am all hell will break loose as the FBI storms the place....

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: aorAki
Have they killed everyone yet?

We're all going to die anyway....

Some of the replies on this thread are truly dispicable, seriously saving these things for the next time the same people are screaming about the law and rights , when the shoe is on the other foot, while yall are calling for the death of these people

It makes me feel ashamed to be a member of ATS.

originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: Sublimecraft

I believe the agreement is that they will turn themselves in to carry the battle to the next level, the courtroom, as Ammon and others have advised them to do.
It seems that once the adrenaline infusion caused by seeing tank-like vehicles advancing on them wore off and they got food and drink, good sense returned. An agreement was reached and both sides have pledged to honor it tomorrow morning.

For those of you who delight in calling them all sorts of nasty names---let me ask you---would you want the world to hear your every reaction as you went through the worst few hours of your life? In hopes of saving your life?
I don't know how old these four are, Fry looks young on the videos I've seen but they sound young and very afraid and yet they stuck to their principles and declared that they would never fire first.

I pray that it will resolve just that way tomorrow.
I think it might need to be emphasized here that these four hold-outs were not actually occupying any buildings. They left the building after the shooting and departure of the rest of the protesters. They say they left the buildings in better shape than they found them but they had since been invaded by the feds.
They also stated that they have LaVoy's guns and Bible. Wonder what will happen to those items?

I speculate that the gun found on Finicum was a plant. Anyhow, I hope they have documented the serial numbers and inventory of his weapons that were left behind. I'd bet there's a gun to account for every holster that he normally wore.

a reply to: diggindirt

So its ok to break the law if you decide to leave the building at a later date? Maybe not breaking the law in the first place would have been a better option? Maybe using the courts to start would have been a better option?

originally posted by: Tsubaki
Does anyone here know what it feel likes to face the possibility that death may be minutes away?

No?


Then stfu with all the "if only they acted this way" or "if only they would do x, idiots" etc.


You dont know #.

They should have occupied Wall Street.

originally posted by: tweetie
It makes me feel ashamed to be a member of ATS.

Don't be. There are some of us here who actually understand these people's cause and plight. Take refuge in that.

originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: mOjOm
I agree and it looks now like that is going to happen. It's the way things should be in a civilized country.

Yeah. Hopefully the feds don't beat the crap out of them when they surrender now.

Civilized Society. We're not quite there yet. But I agree. That is how it should work.

She says revolution if they are killed.

I doubt it.

America is lazy.


edit: oh video thought it was livestream?

a reply to: Xcathdra
It is called civil disobedience for a reason. Please pay attention here. Nobody is claiming that no laws have been broken, okay? The word disobedience means refusal to obey. Civil means there is no violence involved on the part of the one refusing to obey. That's what happened here.
They swore that they would not use weapons without provocation. They didn't. That's civil disobedience and now it will go to court where it belongs.
I'm so proud of our FBIs, all 250 of them that it took to take these dozen or so peaceful protesters to jail with only one death and one injury to the protesters. What an efficient operation that was.

a reply to: diggindirt

I can't help but wonder what's happened while we've been so caught up in this unfolding narrative.

a reply to: diggindirt

“The only violence that, if it comes our way, will be because government is wanting their building back, and that’s what it is,” Bundy said.

www.theblaze.com... inst-authorities/

Sounds like "Come get us if you dare" to me. Seems that Ammon knew whose building it was, too.

originally posted by: bandersnatch
About 3 am all hell will break loose as the FBI storms the place....

Absolutely that's what's gonna happen. lol
Their bellies are full & they're really exhausted, so they'll fall into a nice, deep sleep.
Thinking that in the morning, they'll wake-up global heroes:
peaceful citizen activists who've won some sort of half-assed "moral victory"
against the big, bad, New World Order-controlled government ....

Then in the middle of the night, the GO! order will be given
and a swarm of paramilitary personnel will storm the place, the "They Shot First!"
cover story all laid out & ready to desseminate,
having been prepared & finalized weeks ago by psy-ops experts.

a reply to: mOjOm

Civilized Society. We're not quite there yet. But I agree. That is how it should work.

It's been my dream for a very long time. My aunt had a record album that had the JFK inaugural address and Robert Frost's reading at the inauguration, part of a memorial set put out after his death I believe. She would often play it as we sat sewing or snapping beans. We would often ponder about how things might have been...

a reply to: Phage
I was posting about what transpired there tonight over livestream. Bundy is in jail, not there tonight.

a reply to: diggindirt
Ah. Ok.
So the final four had nothing to do with Bundy or his "cause."

They just were along for the ride. No real conviction. It just seemed like a fun lark. Until it got real (yikes).



I see you completed changed your post. That's ok, mine still applies.

originally posted by: vjr1113
why would the federal government negotiate with squatters? do they also negotiate with tax evaders? the level of ego these people have, its ridiculous to think they are owed anything.

They were certainly willing to negotiate with the violent protesters in Baltimore, with the mayor even giving protesters 'Who Wish to Destroy, Space To Do That'. Double standards?

a reply to: Phage
Yeah, sounds about right. Whatever you think. Bless your heart.

They are moving in with APCs right now.

Six APCs within 50ft of the building telling them over the PA to surrender.