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Was Jesus the Antichrist?

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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 02:12 AM
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A one word response is not considered adequate for this site...
But in this case I'm going to prove that wrong...

Oxymoron...



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
A one word response is not considered adequate for this site...
But in this case I'm going to prove that wrong...

Oxymoron...


On the contrary, the Messiah was to be named Immanuel. Immanuel is the Messiah. Jesus is the anti-Messiah or antichrist. Unless he really WAS Immanuel and they changed his name later.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 02:47 AM
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a reply to: JackReyes

No you are more wrong than you THINK I'm wrong.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: JackReyesMatthew nor Luke could have traced his genealogy accurately anyway. They are just attempting to, but none of that matters for " call no man on earth your father..." Jesus only has one father and his paternal ancestry is illegitimate.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:06 AM
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a reply to: Rasalghul

Like I said Oxymoron...
Like this is the first time someone ever brought this crap up...
He was accused of such even by those who persecuted him...
He responded as always with great wisdom and rebuked them...
"A kingdom divided upon itself can not stand"
Even the devil does not want to portray himself as God he wants you to believe he is greater than God... It was after all the cause for the fall...
What is even more important is that even by trying to peddle this crap if you understand what you are saying and know why it is wrong you are committing one of the few deadly sins...
Known as blasphemy...
Smarten up...



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:27 AM
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a reply to: 5StarOracleI love it because you hate it. Everyone is always speculating who the Antichrist is, why not Jesus?

Jesus isn't even a real name, never mind his. It's a Yahweh vs El thing sister, you wouldn't (and obviously don't) understand.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:31 AM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: Rasalghul

Like I said Oxymoron...
Like this is the first time someone ever brought this crap up...


Well the ATS presents for the very first time... Is Jesus the Antichrist?



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:32 AM
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Further proof of your misconceptions...
And you have been proven wrong and that's what you do not understand...



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:40 AM
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a reply to: Rasalghul

I believe it is against the rules to speak on behalf of ATS or say they share your beliefs...



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:40 AM
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originally posted by: 5StarOracle
a reply to: [post=20365176]Rasalghul[/
What is even more important is that even by trying to peddle this crap if you understand what you are saying and know why it is wrong you are committing one of the few deadly sins...
Known as blasphemy...
Smarten up...


There are no deadly sins. Catholic invention.

The only unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, more specifically, saying the work of the Holy Spirit is of the prince of demons.

You can be forgiven for anything else.

I'm not a christian and I knew that, whats your excuse. I find you peculiar, thinking you know alot about a subject you only kn ow a little is more dangerous.

You see, there is no Antichrist. If there is what book is it in?

Chapter, verse.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:42 AM
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originally posted by: Rasalghul
a reply to: JackReyesMatthew nor Luke could have traced his genealogy accurately anyway. They are just attempting to, but none of that matters for " call no man on earth your father..." Jesus only has one father and his paternal ancestry is illegitimate.



Actually they could. In fact all of the genealogical records of the Jews were held in Jerusalem.

Not even Jesus' most fierce opponents who hated him dare mention his genealogy. Because it was on record where he was from. This is a part of the historic record.

(You weren't paying attention, if you notice Joseph was referred to as his adopted father. Of course he was not Jesus father. But yet he adopted him into his family and raised him has a child of his own. He did adopt Jesus, and was Jesus adopted father.

The scripture you quoted about calling no one Father but one, Jehovah, is referring to our spiritual father. Not a literal mommy or daddy.
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:50 AM
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1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

That says you too are an antichrist...

There are many more examples...
how many do you require to look more foolish?
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:53 AM
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You must have missed the second half of my message.

I don't think that genealogical records would have survived the Babylonian invasion and captivity. If they did, they didn't go back to Adam. And only his maternal ancestry would matter, that's Jewish tradition up to today.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:55 AM
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a reply to: Rasalghul

You should read the Bible. Ezra was a copyist, or a scribe. Where do you think he got his genealogy from? (He wrote his book after Israel was repatriated from Babylon.)



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 04:28 AM
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I have read it cover to cover more than once. How you gonna assume that I haven't read the bible? Because I have a sense of humor?

I guarantee you I know more about the bible than you, I will risk being boastful here since you oh so shrewdly (note sarcasm) deduced I haven't read the bible.

Do you know why I'm not a christian now? Because of that book.
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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 04:32 AM
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originally posted by: Rasalghul
a reply to: JackReyes

I have read it cover to cover more than once. How you gonna assume that I haven't read the bible? Because I have a sense of humor?

I guarantee you I know more about the bible than you, I will risk being boastful here since you oh so shrewdly (note sarcasm) decided I haven't read the bible.

Do you know why I'm not a christian now? Because of that book.


I did so out of honesty. If you do really know what it said, and still claim what you do, then you are the one in the wrong. I was not being shrewd, rather giving you the benefit of the doubt. But as was posted before, enough has been spoken. God's word is sure and true. If you deny Jesus is the Christ, then you are indeed one of the anticrhists.

And I will not bramble more words with such a fool.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 04:48 AM
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Dude, I remember saying it, you don't have to keep posting quotes of mine. Savin ya some time, that's all. I don't care about religious beliefs, dogma or doctrine. I read the bible for fun, not because I think it's genuine.

I only believe in 1 God.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 04:54 AM
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originally posted by: JackReyes

originally posted by: Rasalghul
a reply to: JackReyes

I have read it cover to cover more than once. How you gonna assume that I haven't read the bible? Because I have a sense of humor?

I guarantee you I know more about the bible than you, I will risk being boastful here since you oh so shrewdly (note sarcasm) decided I haven't read the bible.

Do you know why I'm not a christian now? Because of that book.


I did so out of honesty. If you do really know what it said, and still claim what you do, then you are the one in the wrong. I was not being shrewd, rather giving you the benefit of the doubt. But as was posted before, enough has been spoken. God's word is sure and true. If you deny Jesus is the Christ, then you are indeed one of the anticrhists.

And I will not bramble more words with such a fool.


Least I can spell Antichrist. I would consider you the fool, first for calling me a fool because I am far from a fool but mostly because you don't know what you're talking about, yet try so hard.

If you only knew what I knew you wouldn't be saying that I am a fool. I'll debate you biblically right now. I'll start the thread and call it: Who knows more about the bible. You can ask the first question.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: Rasalghul

I've already explained to you that you don't understand that verse like a Hebrew or Greek in the first century would.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: Rasalghul

If the Bible is the reason your not a Christian, then you need to re-read it with the proper mindset. What genre are the Gospels?



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