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originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: Swills
I don't know if you're male/female, married or not, or have children. But let's role play:
You're a married man with a wife and two small children. A couple thugs break into your home and kidnap your children. One of the thugs is caught by you, the other runs off with the kids. The thug now in your control, knows the whereabouts of where your kids have been taken, but refuses to cooperate.
Do you...
1. Call the police and let them handle it.
2. Or do you carry out "enhanced interrogation" and get the individual to talk.
originally posted by: ReadLeader
a reply to: Swills
What is the difference between water boarding and vaporizing IE: targeted Drone attacks?
originally posted by: Freenrgy2
a reply to: Eilasvaleleyn
It seems like the majority of you think this is being done for fun. I would hope this is being used as a last resort and that it is being done, due to a serious reasoning for obtaining information. It is a discredit to this community to assume than anyone engaging in these practices is doing so just to get their jollies.
originally posted by: Freenrgy2
The thug now in your control, knows the whereabouts of where your kids have been taken, but refuses to cooperate.
originally posted by: matafuchs
Waterboarding does not create terrorists. The line that waterboarding does not create actual intel is also simply a talking point. If it needs to be used, do it. It is horrible but it does not kill and if it can save even one innocent life it is worth it. The Recipient made his decision. Now bathe in it...
Second, they are unlawful combatants. All of you are talking about how the Geneva convention is against it and blah blah blah...well, so it hiding your leadership among human shields. Or gassing your own people.
Please, enlighten me to what techniques you would use if you had active intel on a terror attack in 72 hours and you had someone from that cell. This is not a movie...it happens in real life everyday. So, if you were running against Trump what is your suggestion?
originally posted by: matafuchs
Waterboarding does not create terrorists. The line that waterboarding does not create actual intel is also simply a talking point. If it needs to be used, do it.
originally posted by: matafuchs
The Recipient made his decision. Now bathe in it...
originally posted by: matafuchs
Second, they are unlawful combatants. All of you are talking about how the Geneva convention is against it and blah blah blah...well, so it hiding your leadership among human shields. Or gassing your own people.
originally posted by: matafuchs
Please, enlighten me to what techniques you would use if you had active intel on a terror attack in 72 hours and you had someone from that cell.
originally posted by: matafuchs
This is not a movie....
originally posted by: matafuchs
So, if you were running against Trump what is your suggestion?
“The use of the CIA’s enhanced interrogation techniques was not an effective means of obtaining accurate information or gaining detainee cooperation,” the Senate report says. “Multiple CIA detainees fabricated information, resulting in faulty intelligence … on critical intelligence issues, including the terrorist threats which the CIA identified as its highest priorities.”
This information comes from the CIA’s own records. And false intelligence is worse than no intelligence.
1) The CIA's use of "enhanced interrogation techniques" was not an effective means of acquiring intelligence or gaining co-operation from detainees.
The Senate report on the CIA’s detention and interrogation program represents the most authoritative and comprehensive finding since the US launched its so-called “war on terror” more than 13 years ago that torture does not work.
originally posted by: matafuchs
This is also not a partisan issue. This is a military issue and DHS/CIA issue. I could care less if Bozo the Clown was POTUS if one interrogation lead to lives saved it is worth it.