Reports of Multiple ‘Tremors’ or ‘Sonic Booms’ in NJ

a reply to: Zaphod58

Found this in a blog about an FA18.

When they are going subsonic, but still fast, you get a quieter high-pitch build up just before the plane passes, some of the sound energy manages to get to you before the plane does.

Probably a rare event to pick up the harmonics in the glass of a partially opened window.

a reply to: Cauliflower

The Hornet and Rhino have a really weird sound to them. Not as loud as a Viper, but definitely an odd sound.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I live on the other side of the bay from Pax River and most of the time they are pretty high up when I hear the boom but occasionally they must be a lot lower because the boom rocks the whole house and it sounds like someone hit the windows with a 2X4. I just shake my head and think " very funny guys, now get the hell away from here with that $hit"
then I go around and check all the windows to make sure none of them broke.

a reply to: Tardacus

Different aircraft. The F-35 is going to have a much different signature than the F-18 when going supersonic, because of the different shapes involved. It's pretty interesting to read the studies done and see how much shape plays a role in the signature, and then see the new quiet boom aircraft they're working on.

a reply to: Zaphod58


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So NORAD wouldn't know?

a reply to: Staroth

A single aircraft on a multi hour mission could, and has. Missions can frequently last two plus hours. As for NORAD, they wouldn't know instantly, and would have to get a report from the local stations as to what they were doing and if they went supersonic during the flight. NORAD doesn't instantly know everything as it happens at the unit level, hence the "at this time".

I live on the southern coast of nj and here we felt 3 "tremors " that felt very similar to the earthquake we had a few years back. None of us were really sure what was going on but around here its not usual. When we saw the steel I beams in the shop swaying back and forth and the ground moving our initial thought was another earth quake. After the 3rd one we were not sure what the heck was going on.

It was an F-35C and an F-18 doing supersonic tests off the coast.

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a reply to: Zaphod58

I live where sonic booms use to be normal before multiple lawsuits came about (thankfully) and it finally stopped. The sonic booms always came in pairs which made it easy for me to capture it on video. The second boom is from a chase plane. The news is reporting there was a chase plane so.... If this was a sonic boom the booms would not be that far apart in timing, EVERYONE would have heard the first one and then shortly after another. Also factor in 3 states for 90 mins. heard this?
That's what I have the problem with, that and a few other oddities I have noticed via news and post made from people describing their experience, and some videos that people are posting. It's not adding up. Also the legal issue with this, over populated areas.
Sorry, but I am not buying the sonic boom thing!

Yep, heard about this earlier today as I was driving to work listening to Philadelphia sports radio, of all places to hear about it.

FWIW, a few callers spoke about it, though their theories were conflicting. One said it seemed too quick and sudden to be a quake and thought sonic boom, then went on to talk about local military bases and jets flying by all the time.

Another caller stated that the ground under his feet shook, so I don't know.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It was an F-35C and an F-18 doing supersonic tests off the coast.

...and who didn't see this coming? Naturally they are going to take the blame because people are in an uproar, something like the Phoenix Lights when the military took blame and said the giant craft witnessed by thousands was military flares.
*I'm not saying that is the case here but they are WELL known for cover ups!

a reply to: Staroth

Did you see where it was? One sonic boom would cover three states easily. Again, sonic booms can travel 100 miles easily. Where they took place, that's up in to New York, so that's two states. The aircraft would have been doing a straight line dash as well.

The second boom isn't from a chase plane, it's from the same plane. Sonic booms are complicated. There's always a double boom. Under some conditions you hear it quite clearly and they're separated, in other conditions they're so close you can barely separate them. It all depends on the shape of the aircraft, the altitude, and the conditions at the time. In this case there would have been two because of two aircraft, but they aren't always because of a chase plane.

The military has airspace where they can go supersonic without worrying about lawsuits, or FAA regulations about sonic booms. And oh look, there is one of those areas right where the sonic booms were reported. W107A, W107B, and W107C are all just off Atlantic City, and are military use as required.

a reply to: Staroth

And what do you think is going to happen when you have a brand new aircraft in development? They're NOT going to go supersonic with it and see what it can do, and how it measures up to the paper statistics? Yeah, it has to be a cover up, because they'd never tell the truth about something going supersonic.

I'm in the southwest of NJ and I didn't feel/hear anything and I haven't heard anything about it from anyone in person or on social media. Seems like all of the reports are were from places along the coastline and I'm only an hour or so from some of them. Taken together, it certainly seems that whatever it was, it had a localized impact and was running up the coast so the sonic booms explanation sounds plausible.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Did you see where it was? One sonic boom would cover three states easily.

Especially with those eastern states being so bitty small.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I just wanted to say Thank You.

I have learned alot today because of you.

You have the patience of a saint.

I have a tendency of following your post. You are a common sense person.

Thanks for being you.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Did you see where it was? One sonic boom would cover three states easily. Again, sonic booms can travel 100 miles easily. Where they took place, that's up in to New York, so that's two states. The aircraft would have been doing a straight line dash as well.

The second boom isn't from a chase plane, it's from the same plane. Sonic booms are complicated. There's always a double boom. Under some conditions you hear it quite clearly and they're separated, in other conditions they're so close you can barely separate them. It all depends on the shape of the aircraft, the altitude, and the conditions at the time. In this case there would have been two because of two aircraft, but they aren't always because of a chase plane.

The military has airspace where they can go supersonic without worrying about lawsuits, or FAA regulations about sonic booms. And oh look, there is one of those areas right where the sonic booms were reported. W107A, W107B, and W107C are all just off Atlantic City, and are military use as required.Did you see where it was? One sonic boom would cover three states easily. Again, sonic booms can travel 100 miles easily. Where they took place, that's up in to New York, so that's two states. The aircraft would have been doing a straight line dash as well.

The second boom isn't from a chase plane, it's from the same plane. Sonic booms are complicated. There's always a double boom. Under some conditions you hear it quite clearly and they're separated, in other conditions they're so close you can barely separate them. It all depends on the shape of the aircraft, the altitude, and the conditions at the time. In this case there would have been two because of two aircraft, but they aren't always because of a chase plane.

The military has airspace where they can go supersonic without worrying about lawsuits, or FAA regulations about sonic booms. And oh look, there is one of those areas right where the sonic booms were reported. W107A, W107B, and W107C are all just off Atlantic City, and are military use as required.

-Your first paragraph: I have no idea what you're trying to say there?
-Your second paragraph: Thank you but I know about sonic booms, I experienced them first hand, several a month for over 2+ years. I am well aware of how they work as I talked to many professionals (Military, GOV, FAA) in the field to better understand it. Furthermore, you obviously did not understand my statement.
-Your third paragraph: Oh look - lawsuits - there are plenty, more than I can post here!

As for your other post

Yeah, it has to be a cover up, because they'd never tell the truth about something going supersonic.

I guess that went right over your head as well *pun intended*. So I'll attempt to explain again. The GOV often uses the military as well as other resources to cover up OTHER things. My statement had nothing to do what so ever with them covering up going supersonic. Where did that even come from???
Relax, it's a forum and people will have different opinions other than copy/paste internet info. here.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: FuManchu2

There is an aircraft flying that is still deep black that occasionally comes out of the UK region, crossing the coast near New York and New Jersey that would leave a hell of a sonic signature.

Can you say what part of the UK this craft flies from ? England, Ireland Scotland or Wales ?

a reply to: Staroth

My first paragraph was really simple. I'll try again. Where they were at the time was close to three state borders. The sonic boom easily was heard in all three.

In an MOA, where they were you can try to file a lawsuit all you want but it won't go anywhere because the rules don't apply there.

As for a cover up I'm all aware how they work. And again, yeah it has to be a cover up because they didn't instantly know what happened and they'd never tell what really happened.

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originally posted by: NikoNJ
... after thatthe last one pulsating somewhat like a heartbeat...

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denial from police
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"The United States Geological Survey has not recorded any seismic activity but says they are investigating"

hmmm that would add up...

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