Army Officer on Oregon Killing: 'This could be the First Shot of 2nd American Revolution'

Retired army officer. Not an actual serving army officer. Just some guys opinion who used to be in the army.

This is not news-worthy. Plenty of people who used to be in the army have opinions.

Below is another interview with Scott Bennett about the Oregon Standoff...

It was taped a week ago so obviously will not discuss the event that happened today.

It's almost 2 1/2 hours long and Stephen Pidgeon and Kris Anne Hall are also interviewed as well.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

And if the video evidence proves otherwise, I will change my stance on the issue as well. But everything I am hearing is that this was another senseless killing by Big Brother.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
And if the video evidence proves otherwise...

If there is a video, we only have one person's claim that there is.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Army Officer on Oregon Killing: 'This could be the First Shot of 2nd American Revolution'

Could this be the first shot of a civil war or 2nd American Revolution? Perhaps. If it repeats Waco then, yes... it could be.
Is this something we should wish for? No, but the US is not going to follow the path of Europe and allow government to run roughshod over it.

IMESHO, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that there is a very devout and ongoing effort from behind thick curtains to see the world massed into some kind of globalist regime. Moreover, the last four presidents we have seen, GHW Bush, Bill Clinton, Dubya Bush and Barack Obama, were/are not working for anyone else but those cloaked lever-pullers.

Come November, there may not be an election. I hope I am wrong but, even if there is, we may be passing through razor-wire checkpoints along the way.

Not the way I like to start a day.

I`m watching live streaming on www.youtube.com...

Lots of info from the scene and militia contacts, but since there is a chat on the page some comments may be offensive to someone.

a reply to: ReadLeader

And if there is video of this by ABC, do you honestly believe the FBI will let it be seen? We see articles about heavy handed, trigger happy cops on an almost daily basis, do you think Federal agents are any more restrained? All they have to say are those 2 magic words and that video will be "lost".

a reply to: DAVID64

Agreed. Again. What a criminal said in the back seat of a police car ( in my experience, if your under arrest, and in a police car you are cuffed and lost all privileges) has zero credibility. ...period....

originally posted by: dragonlover12
I`m watching live streaming on www.youtube.com...

Lots of info from the scene and militia contacts, but since there is a chat on the page some comments may be offensive to someone.

I think I just heard someone at the scene say something like "If .... crosses... we WILL fire."

Holy crap. Waco in 2016. Watch them all die on the internet cam this time.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: TrueAmerican

He says Obama should be impeached over this for ordering in the FBI

Really, I mean really? Why does it always have to go back to f*cking Obama.

What was the situation surrounding the man's death? How was he executed?

Apparently he was dragged out of the car and shot execution style while on his knees with his hands over his head.

WATCH THE VIDEO

Where does the video show that or are reports from "First Responders to the Second Revolution" enough to be considered fact ?

a reply to: ReadLeader

I believe that many are wondering who the real criminals are in this scenario.

As far as zero credibility goes...

The odds of ever trusting the government again in this lifetime is pretty much nonexistent for me at this point.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

I expect there will be a false flag attack on a federal building in the wake of this murder by the US government FBI agents.

As I have said many times, the US government is a very dangerous terrorist organization with almost unlimited power and financial resources at it's disposal to carry out it's agenda of stripping the citizens of the US constitution and installing a surveillance state in it's place.

A 2nd American revolution is definitely needed to deconstruct the US government and rid/jail the current nest of vipers hell bent on sending the country to hell in a hand basket. As God is my witness, no US politician will stand for the people when they are bankrolled and given their authority by the global elite bloodlines.

It's time the American people took out the murderous, deceitful lying trash in Washington - it's starting to stink up the whole damn planet. These bastards, the lot of them, somehow think they have authority over the rest of us and it's about time they were bought down a few pegs and given a dose of reality - then sent to prison for their remaining days - this is NOT their planet, it belongs to all of us.

a reply to: Sublimecraft



End of story...

Woah. Ok. So according to this new info just seen at that live stream, this situation with him getting shot may be a result of him charging at law enforcement, in which case, this went down way different than we've been hearing. I guess we better push the reset button on this one.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Yeah, whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty ?

As for attacking TA for posting what others are saying, don't shoot the messenger

It's best we all wait and see how this pans out in the morning in Oregon and over the next few weeks.

@Sublimecraft one of the youtubers earlier were talking about a false flag but not in the way you describe, they were saying there might be a false flag to distract attention from all of this so it's all quietly swept under the rug

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Sublime as I respect your wealth of knowledge and wisdom. We do not know that this was a murderous killing. We just have no evidence as of this minute. We just do not know enough facts.

originally posted by: Painterz
Retired army officer. Not an actual serving army officer. Just some guys opinion who used to be in the army.

FYI: the BLM's crimes are ALSO the result of "some guys opinion".

The problem is, not too many of us share that opinion...

There is no legal authority for the feds to own or maintain any land therefore there is no legal authority for anyone to contract with them to do so. All subsequent contracts are illegal and therefore null & void. It is about complete federal control.

The framers did NOT give SCOTUS the ultimate authority to be the ultimate arbiters of the Constitution & federal power. That is a modern abhorrent interpretation of the Constitution and judicial power. James Madison and John Jay and the rest of the framers wrote that the States were the ultimate authority of the application of the Constitution and the people the ultimate power. We need to put down the SCOTUS opinions, the government's desires, and the mainstream ignorance and get the wisdom of the writers of the Constitution.

www.facebook.com...

Hundreds of people are shot and killed by law enforcement yearly - no conservatives bat an eye.

A conservative person is shot and killed by law enforcement - all of a sudden they are in an uproar.

The ignorance is overwhelming.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: TrueAmerican

rid

Ummm...Rid hard and put away wet...no need for the backslash and any jail time...just stop at the Rid part...There's a whole lot of potholes and other depressive states that could use some fill...Look at that...you've just single handedly...solved the unemployment...and...infrastructure issues with a single edit...

And they said governing was like breaking eels for saddle...

So the Feds FINALLY decide to arrest these lawbreakers and we are dicussing Federal overreach? Also, no evidence of execution of this man puts doubt on the OP's claims.

ETA: Btw, it looked like the reason Finicum died was because he refused to be arrested.
CNN

Everyone obeyed orders to surrender except two people: LaVoy Finicum and Bundy's brother, Ryan Bundy, the official told CNN.

Shots were fired, but it's unclear who fired first, the source said. Ryan Bundy was wounded, and Finicum died.

So I doubt that the claims of him being killed execution style are true.