Looks like there might be newly discovered planet in our solar system

originally posted by: criticalhit
So I have a question....

A year or so back, 2 scientists claimed under very similar orbital reasoning that a planet like this might exist in this size and location and be in resonance with a much larger planet further out....

So is this essentially backing that up?

Yes, it's essentially backing that earlier hypothesis up. Don't remember them saying anything about yet another and larger planet, though.

What parts of the sky did wise survey, given the peculiar tilted orbit could it have missed an even larger Planet?

WISE survey all of the sky, but it had limitations, such as resolution (it was a very small telescope) and sensitivity to temperature (it could miss something very cold). That's why there are constraints on what WISE could detect up to certain size and distance, so even with the all-sky survey it produced, it could have missed something very far away and very cool.

a reply to: Phage

It is being seen on many observatories in the southern hemispheres, just prior to sunset and clear skies. Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, And many more. I have multiple photos of it on those observatory sky camera.

Oh yes, it has been seen.

a reply to: NewzNose

Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, And many more. I have multiple photos of it on those observatory sky camera..

No, you don't.

It would be difficult to see the ninth planet if it's not at or near its closest approach to the sun. Brown doesn't believe the object is at that point, saying it would have been spotted by now. But he does think that the most powerful telescopes on the planet, if pointed in precisely the right direction, might be able to detect it even when it is most distant from the sun.

"We've been looking for it for a while now, but the sky is pretty big," Brown said. "We know its path, but not where it is on that path."

www.washingtonpost.com...

It's quite interesting to note that current simulations seem to indicate that there was a fifth giant planet that was ejected from the Solar System (probably by Jupiter) soon after planetary formation. I had assumed that it was gravitationally kicked from the Sun's grasp completely, but that might not have been the case.

What puzzles me about this "Planet 9" is how the perihelion distance became decoupled from the other giant planets to such a great extent. Increasing the aphelion distance is easy, but doing the same to the perihelion distance would require perturbations from objects further out than this hypothetical planet. Maybe a passing star? Galactic tides when the planet was ~1000AUs from the Sun?

a reply to: Phage

Yeah, I do.

I believe what the observatories show over a news media source owned by the elite member.
The Washington post cannot tell the truth.

However, there is this from Wapo:

By Thomas O'Toole, Washington Post Staff Writer 
Friday, December 30, 1983 ; Page A1

A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth 
that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation 
Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.

So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a 
nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that 
it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the 
light cast by its stars ever gets through.

"All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief 
scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory 
for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.

The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and 
has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous 
planet as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 trillion miles. While that may seem like a 
great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact 
that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto.

"If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of 
Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the 
IRAS science team. "If it is that close, I don't know how the world's planetary scientists 
would even begin to classify it."

The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from 
last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its 
telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six 
months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky 
near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time.

"This suggests it's not a comet because a comet would not be as large as the one we've 
observed and a comet would probably have moved," Houck said.

Whatever it is, Houck said, the mystery body is so cold its temperature is no more than 40 
degrees above "absolute" zero, which is 456 degrees Fahrenheit below zero. The telescope 
aboard IRAS is cooled so low and is so sensitive it can "see" objects in the heavens that are 
only 20 degrees above absolute zero.

"It's not incoming mail," Cal Tech's Neugebauer said. "I want to douse that idea with as much 
cold water as I can."

Wapo

"

Shepard Ambellas of INTELLIHUB writes:

According to NASA imagery and amateur video taken over the past 24 days, a large celestial object, likely a brown dwarf star, approximately five times the size of earth, is currently inbound, moving toward earth at a high rate of speed from the vicinity of behind the sun.

This object has been researched by Intellihub’s Shepard Ambellas for over 25 years and is likely the basis for all emergency preparations by world governments which we’ve seen transpire over the last three decades after the object was discovered during the Regan Administration by NASA’s IRAS telescope.

The object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.

“All I can tell you is that we don’t know what it is,” Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief scientist for California’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory
for the California Institute of Technology...

proof: planet X


So, you can not even bother with the ridicule, Phage, save it for September....THEN you can have at it.

a reply to: NewzNose

So, you can not even bother with the ridicule, Phage, save it for September....THEN you can have at it.

I do not recall ridiculing you, I just said you're wrong.
Come September, I will happy to do the same if you so wish.

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: Phage

Yeah, I do.

I believe what the observatories show over a news media source owned by the elite member.
The Washington post cannot tell the truth.

So, you can not even bother with the ridicule, Phage, save it for September....THEN you can have at it.

The end of the world was so 4 years ago

I'm surprised everyone's toilets aren't blocked by this Nibiru crap.

It was meant to be here 3 times already. I'm pretty sure we're still here. (Touches self to make sure I'm still here. NOT IN THAT WAY!)

Yep, still here.

a reply to: Phage

I added the content to my previous reply to you, also from Wapo.

a reply to: TerryDon79

End of the Elite controlling all, ended in 2012....what is happening now is resulting from this as well as the arrival of Planet X.

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: TerryDon79

End of the Elite controlling all, ended in 2012....what is happening now is resulting from this as well as the arrival of Planet X.

Yet I can't seem to find it on my telescope?

Also, how is it possible for it to be in the same spot in the sky? We are orbiting the sun after all.

IF you could see it that would mean it is in our inner solar system. IF it was in our inner solar system then it would be disrupting the orbits of other planets, yet all the other planets are exactly where they're supposed to be.

See where I'm going with this? No? Nibiru doesn't exist.

a reply to: NewzNose
The 1983 IRAS discoveries? You are not the first one to post that. You know that the object(s) were identified, right? Not a planet.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Your source:

The object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.

They found out.

originally posted by: NewzNose

"According to NASA imagery and amateur video taken over the past 24 days, a large celestial object, likely a brown dwarf star, approximately five times the size of earth, is currently inbound, moving toward earth at a high rate of speed from the vicinity of behind the sun.

This object has been researched by Intellihub’s Shepard Ambellas for over 25 years and is likely the basis for all emergency preparations by world governments which we’ve seen transpire over the last three decades after the object was discovered during the Regan Administration by NASA’s IRAS telescope."

Wait -- if they have been tracking it for 25 years, then it is meaningless to say it is coming from a direction from "behind the Sun". The direction that is (as viewed from Earth) generally "behind the Sun" for 6 months out of the year is generally "the direction opposite the Sun" for the other 6 months.

There is no direction that is generally "behind the Sun" over time periods measured in years.

originally posted by: NewzNose

By Thomas O'Toole, Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 30, 1983 ; Page A1

A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth
that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation
Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite...

[snip]

...The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from
last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its
telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six
months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky
near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time."

If the two observations of this object in the vicinity of Orion were 6 months apart, then at least one of those observations would NOT have been in the "behind the Sun". Orion is "behind the Sun" when seen from Earth from, say, May to August, but Orion is in the opposite direction of the Sun when seen from earth in, say, November to February.

So the idea that it hasn't been noticed by others because it is "behind the Sun" makes no sense.

a reply to: TerryDon79

HOW do you know it isn't disturbing the other planets...because "they" tell you?

The other planets are warming as well.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

It is no longer behind the sun.

a reply to: NewzNose

The other planets are warming as well.

How do you know the other planets are warming?

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: TerryDon79

HOW do you know it isn't disturbing the other planets...because "they" tell you?

The other planets are warming as well.

Because I can look through my telescope and see the planets. They're EXACTLY where they're supposed to be.

So where in our inner solar system is this thing? I need coordinates or at least tell me near which planet or viewable towards which constellation or individual star.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: NewzNose

The other planets are warming as well.

How do you know the other planets are warming?

Because "they" told him.

a reply to: Phage

Phage, I get that you don't agree with me on this, but that doesn't mean my info isn't truth.

Go look for yourself.

Makes no difference to me.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Wrong.
So sadly wrong.

a reply to: Phage

It actually is part of my job.