Political Correctness is Going to Destroy US

Very odd thread.

Seemed many intelligent people reacted, but at last a very fat guy with very white skin in chains asked his mistress for pardon... Very confused about this.

a reply to: reldra

You will be on the wrong side of history if you do, friend.

PC is awekening far-right elements by pushing moderates towards them. Most charges of racism and bigotry are insincere. And when these real racists and bigots come and show real racism and bigotry, no one is going to take the cries for help seriously.

I don't think PC is going to destroy us either, but I do think there are times when people try to use it as a weapon, or for the purpose of shaming or winning an argument. Hopefully it is only a growing pain.

People who do use it for shaming are being called out on it, which is a good thing.

Somewhere in the middle lies where we will be........... someday.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: reldra

You will be on the wrong side of history if you do, friend.

PC is awekening far-right elements by pushing moderates towards them. Most charges of racism and bigotry are insincere. And when these real racists and bigots come and show real racism and bigotry, no one is going to take the cries for help seriously.

I am not sure you are correct.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
As the proverb goes, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

The problem is they really believe they are doing good, and trying to convince them by showing the demonstrable effects of their actions simply is not working.

Because what PC really stands for is Programed and Controlled.

When truth is replaced with confabulation, and truth is feared, and hidden behind a curtain, we become residents of Oz, where the lies become the foundation for everything and everybody.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: reldra

You will be on the wrong side of history if you do, friend.

PC is awekening far-right elements by pushing moderates towards them. Most charges of racism and bigotry are insincere. And when these real racists and bigots come and show real racism and bigotry, no one is going to take the cries for help seriously.

I see evidence of this everyday.

It is like the spouse that is screamed at everyday with false allegations of cheating. After a while they become so desensitized to the accusations, that they start to lean toward the crimes they are repeatedly punished for while innocent of the accusation.

I admit that I sometimes grow weary of trying to play nice when the effort is futile, and I become angry with myself when I allow myself the be pulled down into that basket.

It used be an art to telling the truth without offending to the point of fist to cuffs. I think that art died when people starting settling their disputes by going postal.

Here's the rub.

Compassion isn't always nice or polite. Some times the fat person needs to be called fat. That temper pain could get them motivated to live healthier.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

It used be an art to telling the truth without offending to the point of fist to cuffs.

You mean YOUR truth. Your truth might not be the same as the next persons. As many people are in the world now, it becomes necessary for us to find a way to communicate OUR truth, without abusing someone else's.

This is where PC becomes important.

Political correctness is a very sick & twisted mental disease that is without a doubt destroying Western culture.

Its roots are based on irrational liberal emotionalism, where facts are purposely ignored for political gain. It is an illness.

I believe that it should be treated as the enemy of common sense and truth that it clearly is. ~$heopleNation

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
As the proverb goes, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

The problem is they really believe they are doing good, and trying to convince them by showing the demonstrable effects of their actions simply is not working.

Because what PC really stands for is Programed and Controlled.

When truth is replaced with confabulation, and truth is feared, and hidden behind a curtain, we become residents of Oz, where the lies become the foundation for everything and everybody.

I AM SURE you are NOT correct.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: reldra

You will be on the wrong side of history if you do, friend.

PC is awekening far-right elements by pushing moderates towards them. Most charges of racism and bigotry are insincere. And when these real racists and bigots come and show real racism and bigotry, no one is going to take the cries for help seriously.

I see evidence of this everyday.

It is like the spouse that is screamed at everyday with false allegations of cheating. After a while they become so desensitized to the accusations, that they start to lean toward the crimes they are repeatedly punished for while innocent of the accusation.

I admit that I sometimes grow weary of trying to play nice when the effort is futile, and I become angry with myself when I allow myself the be pulled down into that basket.

It used be an art to telling the truth without offending to the point of fist to cuffs. I think that art died when people starting settling their disputes by going postal.

It is not the same. There is no way to know id someone's spouse is cheating. The other spouse may have a suspicion, but really no way to know. Whet someone TYPES or SAYS something racist or bigoted, it is there for all to see.

originally posted by: thinline
Here's the rub.

Compassion isn't always nice or polite. Some times the fat person needs to be called fat. That temper pain could get them motivated to live healthier.

Do you consider that something YOU should do, or is that a medical issue the person should discuss with his physician? Do you think the person is unaware he is overweight and somehow it's your business to inform him? PC or not, that's just plain rude and none of your business.

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: reldra



Absolutely not. Debate is about logic.

One mans logic is another mans irrationality .....

So which one gets to be correct? or is that question politically

incorrect?

Logic is logic. It is an entire educational study.

originally posted by: jaws1975
PC is on one side of the spectrum, and assh*les are on the other side. How about we find a middle ground.

I think the only 'middle-ground' we can achieve is that everyone needs to be less offended by others' opinions, more educated, and more mellow.

So you hate racism, but blast the people who's great, great ancestors enslaved some of your people? Paradox much?

So you have found your own personal sexual identification, that's great, why get offended when others' who are less informed of the topic call you a male/female instead of some super specific, obscure title? We're happy you've found a classification for your identification, don't bash others simply because they accidentally and honestly presupposed you were of the statistical majority.

So what if a person of the opposite gender takes a glance at whom they find attractive? It's not subjecting the individual because another found them attractive, it's simply a perfectly natural, biological response. If you haven't ever experienced the same event from your perspective, then it's not because you're better than those who have done it, it's probably because you're asexual and have no attraction to anyone else.

The human race just needs to be less arrogant, more intelligent, universally accepting (even to ignorance), and humbly offer assistance to all regardless of whatever it is that makes them an individual.

A feat much too difficult for many, it would seem.

originally posted by: SheopleNation
Political correctness is a very sick & twisted mental disease that is without a doubt destroying Western culture.

Its roots are based on irrational liberal emotionalism, where facts are purposely ignored for political gain. It is an illness.

I believe that it should be treated as the enemy of common sense and truth that it clearly is. ~$heopleNation

You are kidding, right? Conservatism is often based in religion.

I would rather have basic, human emotions towards my fellow man that aren't muddied by religious sect ideas.

I agree with the O.P., in particular, two parts of the O.P. There are definitely some issues the Islamic culture brings with it in terms of the way it treats women in particular, and other people. This is a cultural problem, yet the far left does not allow people to talk in terms of cultural problems.

The other issue is when feminists get obsessed with *very* trivial issues and forget what it is like in other parts of the world where there are real issues facing women. By very trivial, I mean to specify issues that are a bit over-the-top. There are still issues that need to be discussed even in more civilized societies like Europe and the U.S.

a reply to: darkbake

Yes.

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: jaws1975
PC is on one side of the spectrum, and assh*les are on the other side. How about we find a middle ground.

I think the only 'middle-ground' we can achieve is that everyone needs to be less offended by others' opinions, more educated, and more mellow.

So you hate racism, but blast the people who's great, great ancestors enslaved some of your people? Paradox much?

So you have found your own personal sexual identification, that's great, why get offended when others' who are less informed of the topic call you a male/female instead of some super specific, obscure title? We're happy you've found a classification for your identification, don't bash others simply because they accidentally and honestly presupposed you were of the statistical majority.

So what if a person of the opposite gender takes a glance at whom they find attractive? It's not subjecting the individual because another found them attractive, it's simply a perfectly natural, biological response. If you haven't ever experienced the same event from your perspective, then it's not because you're better than those who have done it, it's probably because you're asexual and have no attraction to anyone else.

The human race just needs to be less arrogant, more intelligent, universally accepting (even to ignorance), and humbly offer assistance to all regardless of whatever it is that makes them an individual.

A feat much too difficult for many, it would seem.

-I don't blast anyone for their great-great ancestors. Though there are possibly some people who still could, I have not experienced this, so i don't know how it feels.

-I classify myself as 'straight' . On the kinsey scale it may move a bit, but I have only defended people who were made upset by discriminatory words of how they classify themselves.

-Who finds 'taking a glance' a problem?

I am not easily offended, but I will defend those who have been discriminated against and generally insulted, continuously, ad nauseum.

I like much of what you say, but being accepting to ignorance won't help.

originally posted by: darkbake
I agree with the O.P., in particular, two parts of the O.P. There are definitely some issues the Islamic culture brings with it in terms of the way it treats women in particular, and other people. This is a cultural problem, yet the far left does not allow people to talk in terms of cultural problems.

The other issue is when feminists get obsessed with *very* trivial issues and forget what it is like in other parts of the world where there are real issues facing women. By very trivial, I mean to specify issues that are a bit over-the-top. There are still issues that need to be discussed even in more civilized societies like Europe and the U.S.

The Islamic issues about women can be discussed.

What Feminists and what trivial issues? That is a vague statement.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: darkbake
I agree with the O.P., in particular, two parts of the O.P. There are definitely some issues the Islamic culture brings with it in terms of the way it treats women in particular, and other people. This is a cultural problem, yet the far left does not allow people to talk in terms of cultural problems.

The other issue is when feminists get obsessed with *very* trivial issues and forget what it is like in other parts of the world where there are real issues facing women. By very trivial, I mean to specify issues that are a bit over-the-top. There are still issues that need to be discussed even in more civilized societies like Europe and the U.S.

The Islamic issues about women can be discussed.

What Feminists and what trivial issues? That is a vague statement.

There are SO many kinds of Feminists.

For example: Some Feminists think porn is bad for women.

Some feminists think it is a fine occupation and freeing for women who want to make a good living in it.

I happen to think it is a fine occupation if the woman is happy doing it and making a living.

See: total opposites and that is only the tip of feminist ideas and schools of feminism.


Talking about 'Feminists' in a general way is incredibly misleading and not factual.