Sanders and Wife Steered Campaign, Nonprofit Money to Family and Friends

Second line to "make no mistake" some of Obama's most common catch phrases lol



But make no mistake...there will be more corrupt senators and presidential candidates most likely held responsible for their donations in the coming months. I do not see why the public cannot physically see how the candidates distribute the donations given to them...privacy is such a bliss

a reply to: IAMTAT

Just a piece of advice. Don't use other forums or blogs as a source. If you click on their source, it 404's.

originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
Second line to "make no mistake" some of Obama's most common catch phrases lol

But make no mistake...there will be more corrupt senators and presidential candidates most likely held responsible for their donations in the coming months. I do not see why the public cannot physically see how the candidates distribute the donations given to them...privacy is such a bliss

Obama has nothing to do with this op, could you stay on topic.

originally posted by: xuenchen
This will do big damage to the Sanders Campaign.

Somebody's got to explain this away a.s.a.p.

The standard excuses for failure like "everybody else does it too" won't cut it this time.

Why? It didn't in 2006. It didn't when you made a thread about it four months ago. It's re-spun poop. If there was anything to it, don't you think HIllary's DNC would be all over it?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
I know most politicians are corrupt and take advantage of their position...but I had figured Sanders was different in that respect.
I wasn't going to vote for him before this, but I respect him a lot less, if this is true.
The fact that his campaign refuses to comment on this is also troubling.

This is total BS and both he & his wife have indeed commented/responded to the allegations. Well, most of them anyway.

I don't know if anyone responded to the allegations of 6 figure salaries to family members, but then I haven't seen a single document that would support that allegation either.

With respect to her role in the college loan deal, she clearly stated that the plan was approved by the board of trustees, by the republican governor of Vermont, by the VEHBFA board and by the bank's board of trustees. She also stated that there was an outside firm called The PFM Group that analyzed the entire deal on behalf of VEHBFA and that they too approved it.

As president of the college, I seriously doubt that she, (or any of the members of the board of trustees) personally compiled the donor data list that was used to secure the loan anyway.

I've served on a similar board and that's not how it's done.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I'm not Democrat nor Republican, so I'm not ignoring anything.

I point out the ridiculousness in both sides of the partisan-paradigm - but you have seriously got to be joking.

How - can you compare a sum that is nearly at $500,000 even remotely comparable to something that's not even at six-figures?

Oh wait - it was over $500,000.

Half of a million dollars compared to $30,000/year for his wife and $65,000/year for his daughter?

Let's talk about hipocrocy, and how in this case Bernie is one.

Let me tell you something about reality - one can maintain a lifestyle at $30k a year, albeit - not a fancy one.

Half of a million dollars?

Talking about the hipocrocy on the right - it's almost as if it is the same people who same on "warfare recipients," and the poor - yet have no quarrel with corporate-socialism (bail-outs), the military-industrial complex, and using offshore accounts that are not legally-bound by the American tax system.

As I said - I'm not a Democrat, or Republican, or Libertarian, or Nazi, or Progressive - or whatever. I'm a normal dude with opinions on stuff, so I'm not "forgetting," anything.

I just think it's absolutely ludicrous to compare half of a million to under six-figures, and call it "the same principle."

Kind of like how many defend Citizens United, "as anyone can donate," except for not everyone has hundreds of millions of disposable income to influence policy and legislation.

Obama is a prime example of how corrupt politicians can be. I can say what I want because it is a fact and on topic. Just so happens he is also a democrat. Though one thing is certain he was very clever not to include "friends and family" in his budget for spending his donations on...

www.opensecrets.org...

If you look at how presidential candidates act and spend their way into the presidential chair should be a good indication of how they will be when becoming a voted leader for their respected country. I am sure there are other global examples from other countries how some candidates are hypocritical of their own words. What a joke if you cannot be transparent with the people who you want to vote for you. Such a shame.

a reply to: Flatfish

People’s United Bank, which declined multiple interview requests, also would not provide evidence that the confirmed pledges were valid. The loan officer at the time, Matt Mahoney, has left People’s and now works for a bank in Portland, Oregon. Mahoney declined to comment, saying to do so as former employee would be inappropriate. It’s unclear if People’s United Bank made any effort to verify the contributions Sanders listed in the loan document

Hmm, isn't that something? The loan officer at the time left and now works in Oregon?
Declined multiple interview requests?

I'm sure that's a coincidence!

Source

originally posted by: RomeByFire
a reply to: crazyewok

I just found this little gem, too:

The news that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-TX, paid his wife and daughter $473,801 as campaign staff members was just the beginning.

(From the source used in the other thread talking just about this

House Majority Leader... *yawn*

Bernie Sanders wife receives $30k a year and his daughter about $65k?

"The horror! The hipocritical bastards! Damn socialists!"

His daughter received $65K over a four year period. I think that comes out to about $16,500 a year.

How dare he!

originally posted by: Flatfish

originally posted by: RomeByFire
a reply to: crazyewok

I just found this little gem, too:

The news that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-TX, paid his wife and daughter $473,801 as campaign staff members was just the beginning.

(From the source used in the other thread talking just about this

House Majority Leader... *yawn*

Bernie Sanders wife receives $30k a year and his daughter about $65k?

"The horror! The hipocritical bastards! Damn socialists!"

His daughter received $65K over a four year period. I think that comes out to about $16,500 a year.

How dare he!

I cannot believe I missed that, the propoganda worked on me!

I thought it was $65k/year... but yeah, after re-reading it... it was over a four year interval.

A more accurate thread title:

"Bernie Sanders uses campaign contributions to pay his wife and daughter a combined $50,000/year."

Kind of takes the "oomph," out of it, doesn't it?

a reply to: RomeByFire

You are leaving out the parts that do not make it cheap. You are talking more than a million dollars. He is a MAN of the people. After the corrupt bankers who help each other. I don't give two turds. I am simply showing that Bern is nothing more than a person who will take care of his own before the people.

a reply to: Flatfish

You don't think that's nepotism; keeping it all in the family?
$16,500 per year is a nice little sum of extra spending money for anyone's kid.

Typical and predictable reaction. First: "It can't be true." Second: "It's not that bad." Third: "The source is not credible."

Look, it's not like Sanders' campaign is going to tell you all about this. OF COURSE the source is going to be opposed to Sanders. That doesn't make it "not credible."

This is NOT just Sanders paying his family members a low wage. If you look into it, it's a lot bigger than that.

originally posted by: RomeByFire
a reply to: Flatfish

People’s United Bank, which declined multiple interview requests, also would not provide evidence that the confirmed pledges were valid. The loan officer at the time, Matt Mahoney, has left People’s and now works for a bank in Portland, Oregon. Mahoney declined to comment, saying to do so as former employee would be inappropriate. It’s unclear if People’s United Bank made any effort to verify the contributions Sanders listed in the loan document

Hmm, isn't that something? The loan officer at the time left and now works in Oregon?
Declined multiple interview requests?

I'm sure that's a coincidence!

Sounds to me like he's smart enough not to talk about the fact that he failed to do his due diligence as loan officer for the bank.

Doesn't prove in any way that Jane Sanders personally falsified anything.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Flatfish

You don't think that's nepotism; keeping it all in the family?
$16,500 per year is a nice little sum of extra spending money for anyone's kid.

Would you also consider a family business that is passed down after generations to be nepotism? That's keeping it in the family. It is natural for humans to employ and help people around them.

You're argument wreaks of desperation.

originally posted by: schuyler
Typical and predictable reaction. First: "It can't be true." Second: "It's not that bad." Third: "The source is not credible."

Look, it's not like Sanders' campaign is going to tell you all about this. OF COURSE the source is going to be opposed to Sanders. That doesn't make it "not credible."

This is NOT just Sanders paying his family members a low wage. If you look into it, it's a lot bigger than that.

Typical reaction brought upon by a typical thread.

First - this has already been posted.

Secondly - $16k + $30k yearly does not equate to "six-figure sums."

That is a lie.

And it's clear that posters don't "give two turds," they don't even bother fact-checking ANYTHING - or even searching to see if it's been posted, which it has - before blowing something completely out of portion using blogs as their source.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Flatfish

You don't think that's nepotism; keeping it all in the family?
$16,500 per year is a nice little sum of extra spending money for anyone's kid.

Hell no!

His kid is probably the only one who would do the work for so little money, that's what I think.

90,000 over a 3 year period for consulting fees to his wife.
65,000 over 4 years for step daughter who drew a salary. No job description.
His wife, while she led Burlington college, had her daughter paid six figures sums as well as a close friend.
Scandal involving millions of dollars with a Burlington telecommunications company
Loan by wife for 6.7 million dollars which she lied to get and cost the
200,000 severance package for wife after bad loan
This is the non-profit they used to move money
projects.propublica.org...

FRAUD...you need to read the article and stop being LIV's

This is not a local mayor appointing a brother sheriff or some howdy doody garbage.

a reply to: matafuchs

I am simply showing that Bern is nothing more than a person who will take care of his own before the people.

Isn't that what we all do? Do we not help our own before we branch-out?

If your friend is a carpenter, would you not go to them first if you needed a new shelf made?