This just in! 200 million job openings in STEM!

Why is this in global meltdown? No facts... seems more like a rant to me.

originally posted by: Brotherman
beautiful work of sarcasm, this models art... That comment isn't even sarcasm I mean it!

I read it that way also....no offense to the OP if it wasn't meant that way but it takes the piss on the paranoia around AI taking over and STEM jobs being the only jobs left for humans. Brilliant.

originally posted by: howmuch4another

originally posted by: Brotherman
beautiful work of sarcasm, this models art... That comment isn't even sarcasm I mean it!

I read it that way also....no offense to the OP if it wasn't meant that way but it takes the piss on the paranoia around AI taking over and STEM jobs being the only jobs left for humans. Brilliant.

When human infested AI takes over, there won't be any jobs...for aliens.


(sniff)


... u people are too serious roun' here

originally posted by: Brotherman
beautiful work of sarcasm, this models art... That comment isn't even sarcasm I mean it!

Thanks lol.

originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
Why is this in global meltdown? No facts... seems more like a rant to me.

Well, it's an idea.

I just used not an atypical like fashion to communicate a multitude of ideas.

Think of it as sketch comedy but with real ideas behind it.

Get people thinking you know.

I just used not an atypical like fashion to communicate a multitude of ideas.

I'm sorry.

originally posted by: onequestion
I don't know if any of you have heard but there's 200 million job opening in high paying career fields! That's right folks you heard it here first! The best part is there are many entry level positions starting at 32k a year! No longer will any Americans need to work at grocery stores, Home Depots, or flip burgers, work cash registers none of it! We no longer need any of those jobs! Awesome! Now everyone can go to college and be a computer programmer!

What an amazing time to be alive! Anyone who chooses to flip burgers or be a janitor is just a loser! We didn't need any of those positions filled anyway! That's what we have chimpanzees for!

Yay!

Well. There it is. The dude who discovered penicillin was said to have left dirty dishes in his sink piled super high after his maid bailed, which then sat there for so long they became moldy, then...wah la. Penicillin brain storm. So this is great news. Everyone can cook for themselves and clean up after themselves or actually do it for each other because they enjoy helping someone not having to worry about money. Humans can now move forward and get excited about discovering or inventing things -the way life ought to be - enjoyable for all.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Junkheap

My source is...

Landofillusions.com

A trusted source where America gets most of its information from.

Yup, the website is an illusion, the site is for sale and blank.

I still don't get what the point is.

Questions:

Do you expect everyone to make middle class wage, and if so... why? That would seem to be a sense of entitlement from my perspective.

Do you expect everyone to be capable of filling STEM jobs, if enough positions were available for everyone seeking higher pay?

Do you expect companies to take on lesser qualified and capable individuals for higher paying jobs by taking on new positions which are not necessary to meet their companies demands?

It's as if you really believe everyone could be making more monies with better jobs that could magically appear... somehow, by some means... if only those greedy corporate bastards would... I don't know... not be so greedy?

So how would that work out, and what is keeping this from happening exactly?

There's a ton of low paying food jobs because there's a ton of people who do little more than consume to exist. They need to eat. There's few high paying STEM jobs because one brilliant mind is orders of magnitude more capable of providing for everyone else than your average joe schmoe.

This is natural. We have social orders and class systems in every culture and society across the globe. Nowhere on the planet at any time since the beginning of civilization have we had a truly egalitarian system at work, that was all preagriculture and it just doesn't work with the level of complexity in the system as is. If you simplify it too much, you will stifle innovation and then everyone loses.

As is, a greater percentage of people the world over have higher standards of living than at any other time in the history of our species. My parents had it worse than I do, and so did their parents, and their parents, and so on and so forth. Older folk might look back to "their time" with one-sided nostalgia remembering the perfect past that never really existed, but I refuse to buy into that line of thinking.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

I expect everyone who lives and works to be able to eat, have somewhere to sleep and in today's world have transportation.

At the very least I expect everyone to be able to activily participate in the human experience.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: pl3bscheese

I expect everyone who lives and works to be able to eat, have somewhere to sleep and in today's world have transportation.

At the very least I expect everyone to be able to activily participate in the human experience.

You're alive, fairly lucid (indicative of regular sleep patterns), and transporting your thoughts around the globe.

There is no requirement for participating in human experience other than being human. All else is assumption.

Heck, I've been without a set of wheels for the last couple of years... thankfully will be getting back a ride next month. Not sweating it.

There's some super cheap decent vehicles just gotta go to the oddball dealerships in the middle of nowhere and make a good impression.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

I have a vehicle in talking about humanity as a whole should have an equal opportunity towards just living.

If you work you live period.

a reply to: onequestion

That's one hell of a traffic jam you're imagining! It would be nice to level out with a super fly global public transit system ( i still love the evac tubes) that everyone could afford to use.

I mean, if you're really thinking global instead of personally or bound to the US... more millions come online to the developed global economy as middle class players with each successive year.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

Right but look how out of balance everything we do is.

If there is something we can take away from physics it's that things balance themselves out and I hate for the balance to come from a cosmic event or from something outside of our control.

We could easily step back from our monkey behavior and rethink a lot of things we do.

originally posted by: onequestion
I don't know if any of you have heard but there's 200 million job opening in high paying career fields!

Yay!

Good news, now here is the bad news...there is only 10 million Americans actually able to do these jobs, the other good news is there are 500 million Indians that are extremely well educated and experienced to do them, yes we are saved!

a reply to: Xtrozero

The best part is they will send all that money back to India!

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Xtrozero

The best part is they will send all that money back to India!

I think you may have Indians confused with Illegal Mexicans.

Indians would invest their money in a 7/11 or a motel.

a reply to: onequestion

Not a link or source in the whole thread? What exactly is
going on here?

a reply to: pl3bscheese

that middle class wage is now starting to get to the point of "we can't afford crap" wage, which means that those below that middle class wage is in the "we can't afford to live" wage, the "we can't afford to participate in this economy" wage, the we can't afford to start a family" wage. the "we can't afford to live independently" wage.
well, the we can't afford to start a family group aren't gonna stop having sex, so more kids are born out of wedlock and we see an increase in single moms, of whom, the taxpayers end up pitching in much of the support.
the "we can't afford to participate in the economy" group doesn't buy those nice commodities and certainly doesn't buy that starter home that you are trying to sell so you can upgrade to a nicer home. Black fridays turn into just another red friday. and we end up with a bunch of layoffs in the retail sector.
and that "we can't afford to live" group either resorts to gov't assistance, if they can get it, or living with parents who should be putting that income into their retirement accounts, or bumming from friends making them less likely to buy the extras, or well, crime and drug dealing.

To be honest, in the long run, I think it would be more profitable for all of us if we just gave those working enough to function independantly!! otherwise, ain't too many gonna be able to buy those nice nike $100 sneakers and all those slave laborers in whatever country they are in will get laid off.

a reply to: dawnstar

People are more frugal and tap into more reasonable priced items than the common brand names pushed by the adverts. Luxuries are mostly purchased by the upper 20%, but the rest still have their needs and wants and get things if they are willing to work hard for it.

I notice more people take on funky living arrangements. I know people love to talk about the 20-30something living back with the rents, but that's just one result out of many. More people are finding it beneficial to live with friends and strangers alike, forging new bonds and dropping previous expectations and assumptions of needing a house all their own just cause.

I think we had far too much abundance for our own good for a couple of generations, and the end result of that is catching up with us, or our kids, or their kids lol. It's a rebalancing act, and in the process people start the same cycle we're ending on other sides of the globe!