Yeah, uh, Yellowstone might be errupting soon

a reply to: olddognewtricks

You believe the US, can support the entire US in a National disaster....

I remember the US having a seemingly difficult time taking care of portions of a state, or when it has happened Statewide disasters (hurricanes.)

The issues always seem to come from lack of preparation and the inability to provide life sustaining resources in a timely manner. Given that yellow stone would likely kill off, or seriously damage any fresh nourishment for us and live stock with in the first year, as well as the fact any surface water would become contaminated with potentially life threatening minerals.

I'm not sure what part of a disaster that will devastate most of the north American Continent, as well as impact the entire planets weather and well being you seem to think the US can handle.

I am usually not one for doom and gloom, or sensationalizing stories but the Yellow Stone caldera could spell extinction for North America( Canada, US, Mexico.) The rest of the world would probably get on just fine, struggle a bit definitely.

Is recycled Doom Porn part of the green agenda?

originally posted by: Aeshma
a reply to: olddognewtricks

You believe the US, can support the entire US in a National disaster....

I remember the US having a seemingly difficult time taking care of portions of a state, or when it has happened Statewide disasters (hurricanes.)

The issues always seem to come from lack of preparation and the inability to provide life sustaining resources in a timely manner. Given that yellow stone would likely kill off, or seriously damage any fresh nourishment for us and live stock with in the first year, as well as the fact any surface water would become contaminated with potentially life threatening minerals.

I'm not sure what part of a disaster that will devastate most of the north American Continent, as well as impact the entire planets weather and well being you seem to think the US can handle.

I am usually not one for doom and gloom, or sensationalizing stories but the Yellow Stone caldera could spell extinction for North America( Canada, US, Mexico.) The rest of the world would probably get on just fine, struggle a bit definitely.

I can't post you a link as the book 'A short history of nearly everything' by Bill Bryson as it's not legally available for free, but there is a fascinating piece in this about a major eruption of Yellowstone. As you point out, most of North America would be laid to waste, the ensuing tsunami would potentially cause havoc to other countries (UK and border facing Europe would be massively damaged) and the amount of earth thrown into the atmosphere would create the equivalent of a nuclear winter. I'm sure it's easy to find links to similar information.

From a selfish perspective, I hope it doesn't erupt in my lifetime, but to use previous eruptions as indicators is fairly flawed, truth is like an active volcano it could in theory erupt tomorrow, not erupt for millennia if ever. Anything other than that is an inexact method of prediction.

Having said that, I take comfort that it was published in the Express as they are always shockingly bad with their "heatwave this summer to kill millions in the UK" or "this winter will be the coldest in the UK since the harshest ice age" type headlines.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

At your request!

a reply to: randyvs
MUCH better.
As I said before it's the ultimate Nihilist anthem.

a reply to: olddognewtricks

Putting too much thought into negative events only increases their likelihood. The law of attraction works both ways.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

I got it I got it Igot it

You just let me do my job soldier!

a reply to: Metallicus

THEY started it,I'm just trying to survive with the best ideas I can .
Pessimists are the best planners anyway.
I just ask God to make sure it DOESN'T happen.
So far so good.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

And a great song too!

I think the worst part would be the ash. No sun etc etc.

Well I'm not going to spend my life worrying about it.

a reply to: olddognewtricks

If mankind is going to survive he is going to have to learn to manage natural phenomena such as volcano's, all volcano's even super volcano's like yellowstone are essentially
natural pressure valves for the earth often based over thermal plumes that rise from the deep mantle, what we as a species and United States of America as a nation need to do is created a pressure release valve for Yellowstone in order to release the pressure in a controlled method.

This would however require a more concerted and much larger effort than the space race and the nuclear program combined probably requiring truly global support to develop the technology's necessary to deal with the super high temperatures and pressures involved, it is not just as simple as drilling a hole as like a hole in a damn that could cause the caldera to explode through the area of weakness, one method that comes to mind would be a large number of lateral bore holes and deep channels to funnel the pressure into the ocean but that would be a truly gigantic task given yellowstone's interior position on the continental united states.

The alternative is to watch and feel helpless as the volcano WILL eventually erupt and perhaps with a global extinction level event of force maybe even as bad if not worse than the deccan traps event in india about 65 - 59 million years ago which probably cooled the planet by obscuring the sun on a global scale.

a reply to: olddognewtricks

Will it destroy the electrical grid when it erupts?

a reply to: gortex

It's still a much better chance than winning Powerball on Saturday.

It'll kill the people living near it. Not away from it.

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: olddognewtricks

Will it destroy the electrical grid when it erupts?

If you are in North America and if (please remember that is a massive if) it does fully erupt, I wouldn't worry about the electrical grid. The blast and its effects will take a matter of hours to fairly much wipe out life in North America, followed by a wave of tsunamis which will effect other countries. It may in itself create some kind of chain reaction, certainly for other hot spots on the same tectonic plate (San Andreas?) Sorry, I know that sounds really dramatic and it's not my style to use such big statements, but it is a very real likelihood.

Remember though, as I put in an earlier post, it may not erupt for millennia - then again, volcano's don't tend to give too much notice when they do erupt.

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: olddognewtricks

Will it destroy the electrical grid when it erupts?

Possibly the weight of ash would bring down the lines, much as snow and ice does.
The ash would also insulate the transformers, so they would overheat and explode, taking years to replace, as there are no spares.

a reply to: opethPA

Oddly enough, if you listen to Obama talk, you'd think all of this is Bush's fault. Crazy eh?

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: olddognewtricks

Brother, we are too busy killing each other to worry about yellow stone, pfft the end of the world *look around*

I was born and bred in Los Angeles.

If I'd put my life on hold every time one of these fears or warnings came out, I would never have had a life at all.

Better to live. Doesn't hurt to have a survival stash though.

originally posted by: makemap
It'll kill the people living near it. Not away from it.

There are many different opinions on this, none can be considered definitive, and it's hard to judge when the eruption itself is considered in isolation from the knock on effects, but I did find this one a bit of an interesting read....

www.ryot.org...

a reply to: LSU0408

Unlikely to affect the power grid as a volcanic eruption is a kinetic explosion not a nuclear explosion so there should be no EMP which is what disrupts the power grid in a nuclear explosion, it will definitely be far more destructive than a nuclear explosion and far larger than any man made explosion if it should erupt, mount st Helen's was a small volcano burping an eruption, Krakatoa was a volcanic island erupting as was Santorini and these would simply not compare to the blast and atmospheric effect's of a super volcano like Yellowstone erupting.