Quake Watch 2016

a reply to: MamaJ

I'd say yes. Because, it was that big. It was a good bump, but nothing earth shattering. Oh i'm so funnny. When I've seen ones pop here they will just be "one offs". It was just south of Jackson Hole. Oh fracking, why would I have to even think about it.... hmm. I know I study the area before, and I know there's oil and gas there in that valley. I think I looked when the quake first happened and I think it was on a mountain. So, if I check and it was injection, then it was just tectonic and just a small earthquake. 7's here are the big ones. Now, if it was 5.8M, you'd see lots more.

I'm going to check graphs and maps. If I find nothing I won't add. So, Yellowstone is rising slowly, Norris more so. The rise is fast, but not as fast a rate as last year. Still notable. I read the report and there were only tiny swarms.

Oh, and that fella who fell in a geyser was from earlier this summer.

There's been lots of problems in the park. They have record setting crowds and it's been hot as hell there.


Oh, if I were writing script of a disaster movie. This would be the perfect time of year to set the stage for the climax. It would be the end of summer. The last long weekend on Labour Day. The park choked with visitors. Roads look like lines of ants stretching and moving across the entire Northwest section of Wyoming. Every one suffering the heat. Animals included. The most tired are the Rangers. They want the summer to end and the noise to cease. So do the animals.

Then, the little things start... Changes... I could go on. The radios start crackling and conversations start overlapping with more and more panic. Phone calls and emails are being made a ever and ever increasing volume. Live streams start going up on Facebook, SnapChat, and alike... The world is viewing the changes in real, broadcast by real people....

Really worried people....


... There was a point, where every one that was there that day, in the park, when they all collectively knew it was the end. It was a sound that they all heard- heard throughout the whole region. It was as if someone struck a gong within the core of the earth. Now, the danger was all around them, and they knew... they had to get out....

Oh, and I know there's already been movies with Yellowstone blowing up. I'd just do it different, that's all.
My movie would be small is scope, staying within the park, filled with more facts and action...

The movie doesn't even have to be a complete eruption in order to create ultimate chaos and carnage.

Over 600 000 go and sit on top a volcano in the month of August. On any given day, there could be tens of thousands of families visiting the park. Imagine the chaos if they all had to evacuate on an immediate basis. It could be done. The roads would be choke and impassable within minutes...

All you need is to have one truck with a camper stuck or in the wrong place at the wrong time...

okay,

i'll stop.

i like movies that's all

... oh, and I just noted you are asking me to read some stuff about Jackson's Hole. Wow. Right up my alley. Mystery, geography, and more. I will read it. However, I'm too skeptical of everything. Including my own nuttiness,..


Well, I went flying over Wyoming. Nothing. Just a mountain and other mountains. Ranches. Nice houses. No gas, no oil. Not much of anything other than normal stuff. Even the crack in the earth doesn't mean much. Think of it in longer terms. We are still rebounding from the last ice age. There's still changes going on as the land pushes up, also there's the volcano next door here. They land will eroded and change shape. If you wonder around Wyoming, you'll see areas of landslides. The ground is relatively unstable. Then you have super wet cold winters followed by super hot, super dry summers. The soil loses strength and either slides down or cracks open depending on stress. When they ground cracks open, it's more like calving of icebergs where chucks fall away. I don't think the ground crack is related to much other than erosion, and time.

EDIT>>>>

I did find some aftershocks with the 4.8M. There are some graphs really close and there some small stuff. Too small to be much noticed and logged by the USGS or UofU.

A 7.4 just slammed the southern mid atlantic ridge:
earthquake.usgs.gov...

That's getting on up there, although emsc had this at 6.8. No tsunami warning as of yet.

emsc:
www.emsc-csem.org...

They are holding on to the 6.8 magnitude for now. I think USGS might have overshot this one, from the looks of the S-waves on my rig. I think it is closer to emsc's magnitude.


And yup. USGS has already come down to 6.9 from 7.4.


Lol, now both USGS and EMSC are saying it is a 7.1. I guess they reached a compromise. *sigh*

a reply to: TrueAmerican
Thats why I use GFZ more than those two, who seem to be in cahoots, like GeoAu and USGS are.
7.0 Mw 2016-08-29 04:29:58 0.06°S 17.78°W 10 M MT North of Ascension Island
geofon.gfz-potsdam.de...

Just updating my Kumamoto page and had everything loaded, but when I opened the page the NZ topo map pops this up

The page at h t tp://www.topomap says:
KML Overlay: the document exceeds the file size limits of the overlay

Damn

I've had to split the file into 2 maps.
The file size is 614kb, which is just over half a MB.
Not sure how two maps will effect opening of the page, it may be just as slow as if there was one huge file on one map, but no choice really.
This is the first big series I have done on NZ Topo that has had more than 14,000 icons.
It wasn't loading very fast this morning when I started, and that was at 13,166 events.
Maybe 12,000 is about capacity.
japanquakes.blogspot.co.nz...

*edit. I have rearranged the whole page, seems to work OK.

To follow up on Wyoming, there were some aftershocks list today. I told you they were lazy and didn't bother with them yesterday.

No one has mention Iceland. They had a good sized earthquake. When one pops off there, it may mean something much bigger. Not always, but often enough to take seriously...

Oh, I should post on Volcano Watch, but, since at the moment, it's just earthquakes, I'll post here...

www.wired.com...

Ah ha, water again, may be acting upon the earth. Who here is sick of me ranting about water? I know I am. But I'm trying to prove a point. The key to understanding many geological events is to, first, understand the role water played in the scenario.

Maybe glacial melt water is finding its way down into fault and near some hot magma. It's near the surface here. The water may have lubricated faults. Or, the water may be heating and then reacting within the faults by heat transfer, and gas migration. The melt water at first will be super cold. Literally super charged cold water. It's a thing. It falls and move downward because it's dense. Once it finds a bottom, it will have started to heat and circulate and will move upward and outward, at the same time you have super cold water moving down and passed the hot water moving in the opposite direction. The mixing of cold and hot below changes chemistry and pressures and flows. The channels and fault become crowded with moving water and pressure. It's lid on the pot of hot water again. Steam needs to find a way out.

(sorry, started to think about steam power and need to bring it back in a big way. powerful stuff... steam)( peter gabriel has a song, about steam...)


Water is the ultimate catalyst...

Due to the change in the GeoNet URL details, and a change in the EMSC collection routine, all of which were perpetrated by the site owners without consulting with me I have had to make changes to the QVSData programs.

You can download the latest version here (7 Mb Zip file) BUT.........

This is the pro version because the standard version is defunct dead gone and buried. There are just 2 versions now Lite and Pro, both of which are free of charge. Lite will not be available for a while but when it is it is the version that has not database attached - all real time downloads.

If you were using Standard you will need to remove it which unfortunately means any database of quakes will be lost (speak to me if this is a BIG problem and I can probably point you at a filled database).

There is no Data Centre any longer - everything is contained in the one program.

Enjoy!

Hi Guys!

Does anyone know why Western Australia and Queensland seem to be getting a few earthquakes.

We usually don't get that many!

People believe that everything in Australia is out to kill us, but Volcanoes and Earthquakes are not on our Deadly List.

P

a reply to: pheonix358
thats easy mate, the Lucky Country's luck has run out.
I hear also that the mining is in strife and the Wallabies haven't won a Test for .......... how long was it again?
Are the All Blacks on the Deadly List too?
If not they should be, they did a pretty good job of smashing the Aussy rugby team on Saturday here in Wellington.
The Wallabies just didn't seem to have a plan of any kind.

Heres another new threat, and seriously, I do see some tectonic changes happening lately ( your SA and Q'ld quakes for example)
ID: 2016p650710 Network: geonet;
Status: manual;
Date/Time NZST: 29/08/2016 06:15:07;
Date/Time UTC: 28/08/2016 18:15:07;
Latitude, Longitude: -30.1722755, 174.1190186;
Magnitude: 4.51;
Depth: 2.26 km;
Energy Released: 88.1228 tonnes of TNT;
Location: North Of New Zealand
Thats about half way between the Kermadec Trenck and Norfolk Island.
Don't see them there very often at all.
Of course in the long long distant past what is now the Norfolk Ridge used to be the tectonic edge of the Australian Plate ( now that is the Kermadec Trench.

a reply to: muzzy

You guys went well at the Olympics as well. 4/9/5 was well done.

Are swarms like this normal. We don't need another Newcastle.

P

a reply to: pheonix358
No not common, but quite a few lately since 2011
just Queensland data
5.6 1883-08-28 Gayndah QLD
5 1883-08-28 Gayndah QLD
5.7 18/12/1913 Charters Towers QLD.
6 6/06/1918 Offshore Gladstone, QLD.
5.5 12/04/1935 Gayndah QLD.
5.3 19/09/1954 St George QLD
5.3 3/06/1965 Calingunee QLD
5.1 24/12/1974 Coral Sea
5.2 28/11/1978 Heron Is Qld
5.3 16/04/2011 Near Bowen, QLD.
5.2 15/02/2015 Near Eidsvold, QLD.
5.4 29/07/2015 Offshore E of Fraser Island, QLD
5.1 1/08/2015 Offshore E of Fraser Island, QLD.
5.8 18/08/2016 Offshore NE of Bowen, QLD.



New South Wales data
only one offshore, on the opposite side of yesterdays 4.5 at Norfolk island ie between Australia and Norfolk, so there is history there
5.3 1842-10-27 Paterson NSW (Newcastle)
5.3 1868-06-18 Four Mile Creek NSW (Newcastle)
5.3 1872-10-18 Hampton NSW
5.5 1886-11-29 Bowning NSW
5.3 1888-07-05 Jerrawa NSW
5 27/10/1930 Rye Park NSW
5.6 18/11/1934 Oolong NSW
5.5 10/03/1949 Dalton NSW
5.3 18/05/1959 Rocky Plain NSW
5.3 16/05/1961 The Marra NSW
5.8 21/05/1961 Kangaloon NSW
5 31/12/1968 Dandry NSW
5.5 9/03/1973 Blue Mountains National Park NSW
5.7 26/07/1987 SW of Norfolk Island
5.4 27/12/1989 Teralba NSW (Newcastle)
5.3 6/08/1994 Congewai NSW Newcastle)
5.1 13/08/1996 White Cliffs NSW

a reply to: muzzy

Just from the list ... we may have a big one offshore soon.

Makes me feel uneasy!

P

a reply to: PuterMan

Due to being rather senior I had not noticed that not only did GeoNet change the web address to access the information they changed the order of Latitude, Longitude and Depth so the NZ part still is not working.

There will be an upgrade in about 2 hours or so when I have tested.

a reply to: PuterMan

New link for the QVSData Pro setup 7 MB Zip file


PS the link in my signature to download the program is now up to date and gives the option of .exe or .zip downloads.

Public ID 2016p659242
Intensity severe
Universal Time August 31 2016, 22:04:35
NZ Standard Time Thu, Sep 1 2016, 10:04:35 am
Depth 25 km
Magnitude 5.7
Location 100 km north-east of Te Araroa
Latitude, Longitude -37.04, 179.22
www.geonet.org.nz...

5 aftershocks

confirmed by GFZ

and USGS have 5.8mb

and GeoAu have 5.7Mwp and 5.6Ms

I stopped doing the NZ daily energy released graph, because the old Muzzy Rule that "if the TTNT count went below 6 then there would be a 5ish quake within a few days" didn't seem to apply in 2016. I had noticed earlier this morning, before that 5.7 that yesterdays was 6.298TTNT.
I better go back and check all that again, we haven't had a 5+ for ages on or close to land.

4 mins ago

Public ID 2016p661332
Intensity severe
Universal Time September 1 2016, 16:38:12
NZ Standard Time Fri, Sep 2 2016, 4:38:12 am
Depth 39 km
Magnitude 6.4
Location 20 km west of Te Araroa
Latitude, Longitude -37.71, 178.16
www.geonet.org.nz...

Felt this one, or really I heard it.
Its 4:44am I woke up for some reason at 4:30 made a coffee sat down for a cig out in the conservatory/deck.
I was sitting in a chair and had one leg crossed over the other, I thought I felt the deck move, but put it down to a nerve in my leg, then at the same time I heard one of the doors on the kitchen tapping. But I didn't feel any actual swaying. Checked Geonet and voila


Is on land.
Must have been felt strongly further north
4215 felt reports in 4 minutes


edit: aftershocks since are quite widespread right across the Bay of Plenty, nr White Island incl
follow here www.geonet.org.nz...

or here on the map
www.geonet.org.nz...

M7.2 - 147km NNE of Gisborne, New Zealand

2016-09-01 16:37:57 UTC

37.500°S 178.800°E

159.0 km depth

Opotiki, New Zealand
144.8 km (90.0 mi) ENEPopulation: 4,044
Gisborne, New Zealand
145.8 km (90.6 mi) NNEPopulation: 34,274
Whakatane, New Zealand
167.9 km (104.3 mi) ENEPopulation: 18,602
Tauranga, New Zealand
233.5 km (145.1 mi) EPopulation: 110,338
Rotorua, New Zealand
235.8 km (146.5 mi) ENEPopulation: 65,901

USGS

a reply to: lurksoften
Wow yeah Geonet just upgraded the magnitude I see to 7.1
Lucky I grabbed that first report before they did a manual check
the location has altered to offshore now. East Cape Ridge rather than East Cape itself.
shows how automatic systems can be so wrong
153km wrong
and 0.7 magnitude out



Ironic as just in the last 2 days the authorities have been running Tsunami exercises here.
makes you wonder if "they" actually DO know how to predict earthquakes, but aren't telling the public about it.
na, probably just co-incidence they likely planned those Tsunami runs months ago.

a reply to: muzzy

Do you reckon this might upset White Island?

I know there has been activity there over the last year. albeit low.

27 felt reports on USGS by the way.

a reply to: PuterMan
Could do, there was an aftershock 4.1 at 25km south of White Island
www.geonet.org.nz...

couple of M5 aftershocks too but closer to the 7.1 location

a reply to: muzzy

na, probably just co-incidence they likely planned those Tsunami runs months ago.

And maybe they knew about the prediction months ago

or maybe they planned the event to coincide with the excercises Ha Ha....removes tin foil hat....