Why Wait an Hour to Blow the Buildings ?

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Soooooo.....I guess that means according to 93's flight path (after the hijackers took over), which was heading towards DC was just so they could do a fly over, see the sights, then turn northeast and head to NYC then, eh?

Or they were just really lost?

a reply to: hellobruce

The video and its content just resemble that of what you'd see in a steel factory, the way it poured, the flame, the texture etc. I believe it may had to do with some sort of thermite and or thermate influence. The fact that they found iron balls (which is a bi-product of thermite use) in the massive debris piles was another indicator. My thoughts and beliefs drive me to believe that thermite was used, and that's why we have molten steel flying out the window.

-DuR

originally posted by: DoUrResearch
I believe it may had to do with some sort of thermite and or thermate influence. The fact that they found iron balls (which is a bi-product of thermite use)

The use of thermite has been debunked for a long time.

www.metabunk.org...

www.debunking911.com...

a reply to: hellobruce

www.debunking911.com...

Debunking911.com is a very well known bias website that only supports the OS narratives.

The same goes for 911Myths as well. Both are propaganda websites that regurgitates the government OS, you will find few facts on their website. It is also an OS debunking websites that gives them tools to use against anyone that doesn't believe in the OS.

Most people doing research on 911 will not find answers on these websites.

a reply to: Informer1958

The same goes for 911Myths as well. Both are propaganda websites

And ae911 and it's cousins are full of the gospel?
It could come down to who has more scientists on their side.

originally posted by: Informer1958
Debunking911.com is a very well known bias website that only supports the OS narratives.

Well, as the truthers have nothing but bunk why would they support them?

The same goes for 911Myths as well. Both are propaganda websites

So any website that points out the crap truthers come out with is a propaganda website, but truther websites have the "truth"!

you will find few facts on their website.

No, that is the truther websites, they avoid the facts, preferring to push conspiracy theories. If truthers examined the facts they would realise there is no substance to the truther conspiracy theories. But as we have seen, truthers are just not interested in the facts!

a reply to: hellobruce

That doesn't debunk the possibility of it being present, it just gives a better explanation as to why the iron deposits were there. I understand where your coming from, but theres really no way to fully prove or disprove thermites presence, it just gives me a realistic reason as to why the towers collapsed how they did, why explosions were heard and felt, and also why some molten substance steel or not was flying out a windooow.

Thermite can cut steel on a horizontal angle if positioned right, it can do a lot of things that involve the towers collapsing... I guess I should also do research as to how it could not be thermite and view other perspectives, I like to keep an open mind anyway, cheers to the new year brother!

-DuR

originally posted by: DoUrResearch
That doesn't debunk the possibility of it being present, it just gives a better explanation as to why the iron deposits were there. I understand where your coming from, but theres really no way to fully prove or disprove thermites presence,

Actually, there is. How was the large amount of thermite installed next to the beams with no one noticing? When did the workmen enter the building, bash holes in the walls to install the thermite, again with no one noticing?

it just gives me a realistic reason as to why the towers collapsed how they did,

You do not think the planes hitting the buildings and unchecked fires had anything to do with it?

why explosions were heard and felt,

Yo do not think planes hitting the buildings could be heard and felt?

Thermite can cut steel on a horizontal angle if positioned right,

Again, how could they position it with no one noticing?

a reply to: samkent

And ae911 and it's cousins are full of the gospel?
It could come down to who has more scientists on their side.

Funny you say that, I have not seen their science debunked, but only ridiculed.

a reply to: hellobruce

Well, as the truthers have nothing but bunk why would they support them?

Because real Truthers and not the one's who support fantasies, like space beams, no planes, hush a boom explosions and the like. do not support the bunk that some of you are claiming.

Your ridiculing against people asking questions or having a different of "opinion" are very well noted.

Real Truther only support the credible science that has been done in the past 15 years.

So any website that points out the crap truthers come out with is a propaganda website, but truther websites have the "truth"!

I did not say that. I only pointed out just two websites.

No, that is the truther websites, they avoid the facts, preferring to push conspiracy theories.

That is completely untrue.

If truthers examined the facts they would realise there is no substance to the truther conspiracy theories.

That couldn't be any further from the truth. So what your saying is, if any ATS member that does not support your beliefs or the proven lies of the OS have no substance and all believe in silly conspiracy theories?

But as we have seen, truthers are just not interested in the facts!

Who is we? perhaps you are implying the very few handful of OSer's supporters?

If Truther were not interested in the facts we would not be on ATS. Again you couldn't be any further from the truth.

Oh and Happy New Years to you.

originally posted by: samkent
I still ask myself this:
If you were planning this conspiracy why wait about an hour before you blow the buildings?
That gave the news media time to set up cameras and catch the explosions.
That gave rescue crews time to stumble across prewired explosives.
That gave time for people to escape.
Those escaped victims may have seen something by accident.

The smart plan would be to wait 4-5 seconds after the impact then hit the button.
Who's going to question the collapse ?
Who's going to be alive to tell what they saw?
Greater loss of life.

If you were planning this conspiracy why wait about an hour before you blow the buildings? - To ensure the viewing audience all around the world was maximised and for maximum effect on the maximum number of sheeple.

The smart plan would be to wait 4-5 seconds after the impact then hit the button. - No, no, that would make all the sheeple all around the world immediately conclude that the buildings were built with a much to low a safety factor and we cant have that can we?

Even though we all know that is the unspoken conclusion of all architects, engineers and people with a reasonable endowment of common sense, if the official report is to be believed.

So people would waste time arguing about whether or not a jet fuel fire can melt steel beams.


That's one thing about 911 that has always baffled me, everyone talks about how "jet fuel can't melt steel beams " when it was very clearly a controlled demolition, that had absolutely nothing to do with the fire from the plane impact, or the plane impact at all really.

a reply to: hellobruce

Actually, there is. How was the large amount of thermite installed next to the beams with no one noticing? When did the workmen enter the building, bash holes in the walls to install the thermite, again with no one noticing?

It wasn't placed by people during construction, that would be too obvious. Its been said that an entire floor was filled with server-size Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) batteries that were bolted down 3 feet above the floor, the floor was reinforced to maintain the extra weight. A worker on this floor later came to explain how they were never turned on and it seemed quite odd to him, he worked for Fuji Bank which owned the floor. He also explained how they were moved in over night the summer before 9/11.

Could they have been the source of thermate?

You do not think the planes hitting the buildings and unchecked fires had anything to do with it?

I believe they did but on there own I just don't see them colapsing the towers how they did...

Yo do not think planes hitting the buildings could be heard and felt?

I do believe that, but I'm talking about after the planes hit. I'm talking about the first responders and local reports.

Again, how could they position it with no one noticing?

Answered above...

Just food for thought my friend, I'm not one to argue but I just have a gut feeling when it comes to the whole thermite thermate debate, it seems more possible than not to me, feel free to open my eyes to other possibilities, I'm an open book brother!

Cheers!
-DuR

originally posted by: DoUrResearch
Its been said that an entire floor was filled with server-size Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) batteries that were bolted down 3 feet above the floor, the floor was reinforced to maintain the extra weight.

Which floor, which tower were they supposed to be in?

a reply to: hellobruce

95th floor of the north tower, 81st floor of the south tower

-DuR

a3_ujulwxLE The idea was for the whole world to see!


edit on 1-1-2016 by TheInfiniteFantastic because: Adding youtube video link

Agreed. It was pretty obvious when inspecting that site that it was disinformation website. The conversations seemed fake, biased and slightly odd. Just didn't feel right. Intelligent people are always open to view information from many angles. Debunked seems to either have incredibly stupid people who have a view point from within a closed box. Or it is merely a tool to cause information/fact confusion.

Those websites are for fools. To fool the fools.

a reply to: DoUrResearch

Thermite can cut steel on a horizontal angle if positioned right, it can do a lot of things that involve the towers collapsing...

It is not practical to use thermite to demolish steel frame buildings and another good reason why thermite is not used by the demolition community to demolish high-rise steel frame buildings. In fact, 1/2 tons of thermite had failed to burn through a SUV and cut it in two pieces and it took 1500 pounds of thermite just to burn through two steel support legs of a tower.

In regard as to why it take hours to blow up WTC 7, first of all, you have to show evidence that explosives were used, but there is not a single valid video that depicts the sound of demolition explosions and not one seismograph detected demolition explosions and hearsay is not evidence without physical evidence.

There would not have been valid reasons to wait hours to blow up WTC 7 or other WTC buildings for that matter. WTC 2 collapsed first even though it was the last WTC Tower struck. The reason why WTC 2 collapsed first is because WTC 2 supported more overhead mass at the impact location than WTC 1.

In real demolition implosions, buildings are demolished within seconds of one another, not hours, which once again, points out another fact as to why the collapse of the WTC buildings was not inidicative of the way controlled demolitions are conducted in the real world.

originally posted by: DoUrResearch
a reply to: hellobruce

95th floor of the north tower, 81st floor of the south towerS

Except if it was thermite (remember, no trace of thermite was found) all it would do is burn a hole in the concrete floor....