Rise of the Radical Religious Right-(Read it first, b4 you decide to lynch me)

a reply to: mOjOm

It's an effective method of infiltration,for the fearful.
DHS is run by a "Brotherhood " stooge, I would say there would be sheep who would ask.
Not that I could possibly attend another church anyway.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

The one single thing that is true in all of this is NOBODY'S got the whole picture,don't follow the parade that leads off a cliff.
We ,as Christians are NOT to punish anyone or rule over them we say our piece and go.

You are exactly right.

NOBODY's got the whole picture.
Therefore, it behooves us to take a step aside (or back) and watch the parade, instead.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I am.
I just do it with intent...and other assets at my employ.
I merely wish it to be as it always has been or should have been.
I want my country back.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

sigh.

Nothing ever stays the same, my friend.
I appreciate your sentiments ----
but, well....

nothing stays the same.
Sorry about that.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I won't see what I saw over there happen here.
They are pushing for it.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

I won't see what I saw over there happen here.
They are pushing for it.

Don't know who "they" are in your declaration.

But, I certainly hope we don't see whatever you saw ..... I guess.....

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I won't see what I saw over there happen here.
They are pushing for it.

I would suggest that you talk to the VA, not dismissing you, honestly concerned. They have some pretty good programs to help you deal with what you saw, that have some pretty good programs to deal with a lot of feces, I attend some of them.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I am.
I just do it with intent...and other assets at my employ.
I merely wish it to be as it always has been or should have been.
I want my country back.

Your country is still here, you still have the same rights. Outside of the NSA, no rights have been taken since Bush 2 left office. You have the rights to free speech, religion, press, petition and assembly. The right to bear arms, etc. Nothing has changed in the last 7 years.

Cav,

Based on your location, you are in deep fundie land, probably not the best place for your mindset. I lived in CO for 16 years, though not the springs, the springs are seriously f'd up with the dominionist bovine feces.

a reply to: BubbaJoe

I am immune to popular culttural influences.
I am FINE there is no dementia last we checked any way...in fact the Dr agreed with me,in my opinion the system is attacking it's own.
Springs is BETTER than Denver or God forbid Pueblo!
Norms avoid me and visa versa.
They ain't Klingon.
I'm no Christian poster boy anyway

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
Common sense would tell you that the sentence - "In the name of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity" - doesn't specifically address "the golden rule". It isn't even a part of Judaism, Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism, Neopaganism, Polytheism, Hellenism, Ayyavhazism, Rastafarianism, Shabakism, et. el.

It is ... specifically ... a Christian belief.

So, there you have it. It is NOT secularism - and yes, those of us that are educated do know the futile attempt to insert and impose that on the rest of us.

Unfortunately those educated by Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and the Liberty University are giving non-dominionist christians a bad name, and causing a lot of folks to paint them with a very broad and evil brush.

Since when have Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell ever been considered educators? If you educate yourself on the facts, and not on the indoctrinated rhetoric that passes for a modern day liberal arts education, then you would come to the conclusion that the United States was founded on Christian principles. The 1st Amendment was not written to infringe on religious liberty - rather, that religious tyranny (i.e. the CoE) could not cause religious persecution (i.e. the CoE). How do you prevent religious tyranny? Well, first and foremost, you do not allow an established religion to govern. You do not force people to attend a church sanctioned by the State (i.e. the CoE).

You might have noticed I keep referencing the Church of England. It is kind of important to understand the roots of the Anglican Church in order to understand why the 1st Amendment was written. The modern day mis-interpretation of the 1st Amendment is an attempt to have atheism established by the U.S. Government (i.e. secularism). This is exactly what the 1st Amendment was written for - to avoid any set of spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) from governing. The Government must remain neutral. An endorsement of secularism, polytheism or monotheism does not mean the Government is establishing a religion. It is when they force you to adhere to those beliefs when it is an establishment.

Anyways ... having said that, the first Continental Congress convened with prayer. Every U.S. President is sworn in by a member of the Christian clergy.

(because the United States was founded on Christian principles ... sorry atheists )

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
Common sense would tell you that the sentence - "In the name of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity" - doesn't specifically address "the golden rule". It isn't even a part of Judaism, Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism, Neopaganism, Polytheism, Hellenism, Ayyavhazism, Rastafarianism, Shabakism, et. el.

It is ... specifically ... a Christian belief.

So, there you have it. It is NOT secularism - and yes, those of us that are educated do know the futile attempt to insert and impose that on the rest of us.

Unfortunately those educated by Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and the Liberty University are giving non-dominionist christians a bad name, and causing a lot of folks to paint them with a very broad and evil brush.

Since when have Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell ever been considered educators? If you educate yourself on the facts, and not on the indoctrinated rhetoric that passes for a modern day liberal arts education, then you would come to the conclusion that the United States was founded on Christian principles. The 1st Amendment was not written to infringe on religious liberty - rather, that religious tyranny (i.e. the CoE) could not cause religious persecution (i.e. the CoE). How do you prevent religious tyranny? Well, first and foremost, you do not allow an established religion to govern. You do not force people to attend a church sanctioned by the State (i.e. the CoE).

You might have noticed I keep referencing the Church of England. It is kind of important to understand the roots of the Anglican Church in order to understand why the 1st Amendment was written. The modern day mis-interpretation of the 1st Amendment is an attempt to have atheism established by the U.S. Government (i.e. secularism). This is exactly what the 1st Amendment was written for - to avoid any set of spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) from governing. The Government must remain neutral. An endorsement of secularism, polytheism or monotheism does not mean the Government is establishing a religion. It is when they force you to adhere to those beliefs when it is an establishment.

Anyways ... having said that, the first Continental Congress convened with prayer. Every U.S. President is sworn in by a member of the Christian clergy.

(because the United States was founded on Christian principles ... sorry atheists

)

The president is sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, who is not ordained clergy. My understanding of the laws of the United States was developed through my secular/public education, and is not clouded by an imaginary friend in the sky. I do not claim that there is nothing larger than I in the universe, however my exposure to the Christian faith over long periods of my life, has left me wanting to find a better way to live than these so called Christians.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BubbaJoe

I am immune to popular culttural influences.
I am FINE there is no dementia last we checked any way...in fact the Dr agreed with me,in my opinion the system is attacking it's own.
Springs is BETTER than Denver or God forbid Pueblo!
Norms avoid me and visa versa.
They ain't Klingon.
I'm no Christian poster boy anyway

To many religious nut jobs in the Springs for me, I never did well, but will whole heartedly agree with you about Pueblo. Cheers from one vet to another.

a reply to: mOjOm

Yes... It Does. It's Called: "Metaphors!"

a reply to: BubbaJoe

We'll hold this f**ker.

originally posted by: Pinocchio
a reply to: mOjOm

Yes... It Does. It's Called: "Metaphors!"

What are you saying yes to??? What metaphors are you talking about??? I don't understand your comment.

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer

(because the United States was founded on Christian principles ... sorry atheists

)

No, you're wrong. Sorry Christians. If that was true there would be mention of that in the constitution or bill or rights. Yet not even once do we find "Christ, Christian, Lord, Lord God, Yahweh, Jesus, etc." If we were founded on "Christian Principles" some mention of Christianity would have been said.

It's not. Even you admit "The Government has to be Neutral." Christianity is not Neutral.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: BubbaJoe

We'll hold this f**ker.

I would honestly take my chances in Boulder, since the springs has a big red X painted on it by every nuclear power on the face of the earth. Ft. Carson, Peterson, Falcon, and not to mention NORAD.

a reply to: BubbaJoe

If that happens..YOU want to live?
Have fun.
I 'll have a picosecond to say "What was that?"
Not to mention the ONLY thing that interests me in Boulder is SOF,I was fun to read.