Skeptics, why doubt ufo's?

a reply to: Marrox

The very word Skeptic comes from an insult in ancient greek times meant to put down anybody who questioned the establishment.

False. I was skeptical, so I checked.

from Greek skeptikos (plural Skeptikoi "the Skeptics, followers of Pyrrho"), noun use of adjective meaning "inquiring, reflective" (the name taken by the disciples of the Greek philosopher Pyrrho, who lived c. 360-c. 270 B.C.E.), related to skeptesthai "to reflect, look, view" (see scope (n.1)).

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originally posted by: joelr
But there are also 1000's of reports of Bigfoot, ghosts, religious deities and Elvis. Doesn't mean they are credible.
Just because the Universe is mysterious.

I personally believe there are some good ufo sightings. But are they military or strange plasma or whatever?
Your whole argument could be applied to some new type of plasma that we don't understand that would account for all of the luminous orb type sightings. Especially the lights in Sweden where they built an observation shed to observe the lights.

When did UFO sightings begin...by ancient review in ancient times...and then the sightings became a rare sighting.

So we ask ourselves, why did the UFO manifest in ancient times.

The answer is to persue topics of information....archaelogical evidence of ancient wisdom/technology which was proven.
The actual information of science itself...how a human mind thought about the condition it called science, to allow conjuring of powers.

Conjuring of powers belong to the science itself and the types of mechanisms used to conjure powers.

So we ask ourselves how did the ancients conjur powers, and the pyramid and Temple schematics provide the evidence, as with archaeological evidence that stone had been melted in ancient times..along with human nuclear events as attacks.

We look at evidence and the evidence of the Giza pyramid as an ancient "building" secret advice is an orb surrounding the top of the pyramid.

In modern times we have photographed an orb appearing above the pyramid.

What is being done in modern times to cause atmospheric manifestations? Science, and converting of natural matter..stone.

What is the modern science trying to achieve?

Their information advises that they are studying the precepts of God/Satan/Christ and also the atmospheric heavenly condition, along with a new study regarding plasma formation.....for our life as an organic being belongs to a state of organic plasma production.

Science states that they can invent artificial products, so they are studying our lives along with the UFO manifesting studied channels to try to substantiate an artificial DNA interactive model for artificial chemicals to produce plasma....artificial to Planet Earth, a Planet that is stone.

Plasma is seen in out of space. Plasma as a creation is formed in space.

Planet Earth as stone is formed in out of space.

Stone cannot be plasma.

Scientists are trying to destroy our life on Earth and are causing evil manifested bodies of burnt light sound via their own attempts to form a plasma for a future resource.

This is the very reason why we have all been attacked and then advise the public of the attacks. We even started to take photographs of the evidence and also have medical advice...we photograph the UFO manifestations for public proof.

Why then is it a skeptical topic...other than the real motivated cause....to try to gain public advice about the conditions of the attacks...being what the operative first began....where the CIA investigated all UFO interactive cases of human life.

Now the science is done with a satellite and the operatives on the forums are studying our advices...no skeptics at all...all of the evidence is already supplied...evil occultist practice called conjuring...science itself...the destruction of life on Earth.

Dunno I am half and half on the whole skeptical thing about UFO's.
What I am skeptical about is the idea that they are so incredibly wise and benevolent. I mean why should we assume they are any less screwed up and unified than we are?
Why is there this assumption that they are all of one purpose, for example, why is there this quiet assumption that they don't have different nations like we have here?
What makes us assume that they have no poverty on their planet?
Say the Greys are real, who is to say that they are not just the most technologically advanced tribe on their planet?
How do we know we are not like one scientific discovery away from trans-galactic travel? One discovery that is an eureka moment? For all we know they might not be hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than us they might be like 50 instead. LOL
If we assume an alien craft crashed at Roswell then that tells us they are very fallible right?

Is nuclear fuel natural to the creation of life on Planet Earth?

NO.

Nuclear dust is the natural creation to the life on Planet Earth.

What is the natural life on Earth? Nature....the organic presence, where the human being has the highest intelligent review, for we can manipulate the creation.

Is nuclear fuel natural to the creation in out of space?

YES.

Does life exist as an alien in out of space?

NO.

For the alien presence manifested in the Nature of the organic life state on Earth.....life already existed on Earth.

How can life exist in nuclear fuel's creation? For nuclear fuel is created from dust. Dust swirls around in star systems.

Dust of the nuclear is natural to Earth life.

Scientists convert the nature of the dust...the ancients called HOLY...for it knew that the DUST was holy to the condition of our natural spiritual presence.

Occultists as scientists convert the holy dust on Earth and form an unnatural and artificial spiritual presence to the natural body of Earth and its natural life.

We know this nature for we are psychic. We gained scientific information from and through our psyche.

As human beings NAMED ALL CREATION their own selves...our psyche told us that the ALIEN SPIRIT is ARTIFICIAL.

The only way that an ARTIFICIAL SPIRIT is created is by CONJURING....EVIL.

We know ALIENS are EVIL, for they attacked us.

The only holy spirit on Earth is the HUMAN BEING who lives a NATURAL LIFE.

OCCULTISTS are EVIL MINDED HUMANS who purposely change/convert the natural spiritual life on Earth and then mis-inform the public, for they know they CONJURED THE SPIRIT.

originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: joelr
But there are also 1000's of reports of Bigfoot, ghosts, religious deities and Elvis. Doesn't mean they are credible.
Just because the Universe is mysterious.

I personally believe there are some good ufo sightings. But are they military or strange plasma or whatever?
Your whole argument could be applied to some new type of plasma that we don't understand that would account for all of the luminous orb type sightings. Especially the lights in Sweden where they built an observation shed to observe the lights.

When did UFO sightings begin...by ancient review in ancient times...and then the sightings became a rare sighting.

So we ask ourselves, why did the UFO manifest in ancient times.

The answer is to persue topics of information....archaelogical evidence of ancient wisdom/technology which was proven.
The actual information of science itself...how a human mind thought about the condition it called science, to allow conjuring of powers.

Conjuring of powers belong to the science itself and the types of mechanisms used to conjure powers.

So we ask ourselves how did the ancients conjur powers, and the pyramid and Temple schematics provide the evidence, as with archaeological evidence that stone had been melted in ancient times..along with human nuclear events as attacks.

We look at evidence and the evidence of the Giza pyramid as an ancient "building" secret advice is an orb surrounding the top of the pyramid.

In modern times we have photographed an orb appearing above the pyramid.

What is being done in modern times to cause atmospheric manifestations? Science, and converting of natural matter..stone.

What is the modern science trying to achieve?

Their information advises that they are studying the precepts of God/Satan/Christ and also the atmospheric heavenly condition, along with a new study regarding plasma formation.....for our life as an organic being belongs to a state of organic plasma production.

Science states that they can invent artificial products, so they are studying our lives along with the UFO manifesting studied channels to try to substantiate an artificial DNA interactive model for artificial chemicals to produce plasma....artificial to Planet Earth, a Planet that is stone.

Plasma is seen in out of space. Plasma as a creation is formed in space.

Planet Earth as stone is formed in out of space.

Stone cannot be plasma.

Scientists are trying to destroy our life on Earth and are causing evil manifested bodies of burnt light sound via their own attempts to form a plasma for a future resource.

This is the very reason why we have all been attacked and then advise the public of the attacks. We even started to take photographs of the evidence and also have medical advice...we photograph the UFO manifestations for public proof.

Why then is it a skeptical topic...other than the real motivated cause....to try to gain public advice about the conditions of the attacks...being what the operative first began....where the CIA investigated all UFO interactive cases of human life.

Now the science is done with a satellite and the operatives on the forums are studying our advices...no skeptics at all...all of the evidence is already supplied...evil occultist practice called conjuring...science itself...the destruction of life on Earth.

Uh, what?

Oh, lightning is plasma.

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a reply to: joelr
The new science theory is for the gain of plasma.

Science wants to place a plasma cell inside of a machine inside of Earth stone.

Human life and Nature belongs to the upper atmospheric plasma condition, the atmosphere is the only reason we are living.

Scientists are only human beings themselves, yet believe that their theories know "everything".

Other scientists, just like the Philosophers in our past argue the conditions of science, provide data and then dispute the occultist review. The modern day occultist is studying God and the Christ concept as if it is a spiritual body to remove from the atmospheric condition by understanding the angelic coding that the ancients used as data.

We are facing the very same circumstance that life on Earth has always faced.....natural human life and the occultist practice.

The occultist, the organization who owns life by the condition in which they gained life in ancient times wants resource, power and status, and do not care who they harm.

Humanity, the spiritual self begins to get attacked by phenomena and also an unnatural spiritual presence...and then report it in public.

The reporting is dealt with by the organization as a subject of disinformation and personal insults.

Science itself is spiritual occultism and the first human beings who gained creation information, did so through spiritual and psychic means...which the occultists understand and also studied as phenomena data themselves...therefore proved to their own organizations that spirit is real...yet inform the public with indifference.

UFO's are caused by unnatural constants...artificial to the life and creation of Planet Earth...the information for the nuclear was gained by out of space radiation wavelength information, that psychically informs the scientist through image and data of its own forming.

This is the only way that a human being could understand concepts where their own cell function and chemical function does not exist...you cannot know the data, unless it is given via a method.

The method is through the psyche.

Therefore science...occultism takes evil information that belongs in out of space and brought it into Earth's natural life and we began to get attacked.

The ancient occultism described out of space as being the placement for the evil spirit as an eviction function.

The documents of Planet Earth and its occultism is a review of data that DEMON strated that the stone (strata) was known psychically to be involved in a condition of science....that the atmosphere dealt with the removal of the created/caused evil spirit and it was evicted into the great deep...out of space.

Therefore the human being living on Earth as the natural spiritual presence learnt science...made inventions as machines...the ancients used Temples/Giza Pyramid/Stonehenge as their technology and we have always then gained attacks from the increased radioactive particle streaming that affects the upper atmospheric body.

This is how the UFO is formed via an unnatural and artificial caused outcome.

Occultists know this is a fact...yet are driven by their own human greed for powers and resources and have been the most cruelest and evilest mind on Planet Earth...always ready to destroy our life for they have no spiritual minded considerations...and are purely driven by selfish means.

The UFO is formed by science and the alien manifestation comes out of the UFO. Our atmospheric body supports our own natural cell condition, and science stole this condition from our life and gave it to the alien and UFO manifestation, being the only reason why we all began to get attacked.

originally posted by: manuelram16
a reply to: MDT20
My perspective after reading available ET & UFO material on the web is that it is highly probable they exist and have interacted with Mankind and that our Military may posses real TR-3B craft.
Maybe ETs follow a kinda Star Trek 'Prime directive' or could be Gene Rodenbery got the idea from ET

Well said. Your darn right they exist, and have been here for a century at least.
Congratulations for being considerably smarter and more rational than so many in this thread.
Knowledge is its own reward.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: manuelram16
a reply to: MDT20
My perspective after reading available ET & UFO material on the web is that it is highly probable they exist and have interacted with Mankind and that our Military may posses real TR-3B craft.
Maybe ETs follow a kinda Star Trek 'Prime directive' or could be Gene Rodenbery got the idea from ET

Or maybe it is all just a social phenomena. When you look at the historical path of UFOs they started very simple (flying saucers) with humanoid aliens just like our first simple ideas about them. As society has grown with books, movies, beliefs etc so has the UFOs ever grown into advance space machines, multi levels of aliens and deep story lines, so either UFOs in the last 50 years have super advanced or our imaginations has grown them into what we see them like today.

Don't kid yourself, they are still flying saucers, and they are still humanoid aliens.

What made you think that changed?

originally posted by: trueskepticnumberone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: manuelram16
a reply to: MDT20
My perspective after reading available ET & UFO material on the web is that it is highly probable they exist and have interacted with Mankind and that our Military may posses real TR-3B craft.
Maybe ETs follow a kinda Star Trek 'Prime directive' or could be Gene Rodenbery got the idea from ET

Or maybe it is all just a social phenomena. When you look at the historical path of UFOs they started very simple (flying saucers) with humanoid aliens just like our first simple ideas about them. As society has grown with books, movies, beliefs etc so has the UFOs ever grown into advance space machines, multi levels of aliens and deep story lines, so either UFOs in the last 50 years have super advanced or our imaginations has grown them into what we see them like today.

Don't kid yourself, they are still flying saucers, and they are still humanoid aliens.

What made you think that changed?

Atomic orbitals, have a look at what form of orbitals form in the atomic nuclear, and you will see most of the UFO body formations themselves.

Has the nuclear been changed on Planet Earth as an outcome of changing the nuclear fused dust?

Of course it has, for we are witnessing the orbital manifestation of light and sound converting bodies in our atmospheric body itself.

Metal belongs to the stone of Earth, therefore as the nuclear involves metal, it is obvious that metallic formed UFO bodies are being caused.

Ask yourself as a Scientist how this situation could be possible.

The answer is simple....a heated radiation outer atmospheric condition was introduced to Planet Earth when science decided to convert a very cold nuclear dust into a fuel condition.

To achieve the result of converting, a higher energy body has to be formed to force the lower body into converting.

This situation included the magnetosphere where spatial radiation particles were held and were dealt with.

As the outer atmosphere heated....so did the natural atmospheric condition change and the atmospheric body keeping life safe began to fall out as all different types of light/sound UFO bodies formed....some of them metal.

Aliens come out of the light/sound artificial chemical reactions caused by an increased star radiation particle interaction, which is why our psyche knows that they are artificial...for it is an artificial chemical interaction that allows nuclear fuel to be created on Earth.

Therefore scientists resourced our atmopshere to form a fuel from dust....this is obvious for the result was atmospheric change as witness to nuclear fuel's unnatural creation on Planet Earth.

Human life by psychic and spiritual evidence records its life in the atmosphere by the condition of how light can form image/photographic memory. We all know this is true for the atmosphere transmits sound and also imagery by recording.

Therefore as human beings survive in a natural atmospheric condition which is an oxygen amassed state...we are protected by this mass.

As the mass of oxygen/water involving hydrogen changed for it was used for the nuclear fuel creation, the light and sound that supports human spiritual presence was removed from our own life self.

Our human presence belongs to the amount of atmospheric mass.

So we witnessed our life being removed from atmospheric mass by the amount of oxygen/water/hydrogen that we use and it was given to a false/fake spirit manifestation instead.

So our psyche knew that our natural life was being given to the alien and we considered this information was a personal abuduction....for we knew that our own normal cellular interaction had changed.

Human beings began to get sick from losing their own natural cellular interaction, as it was given to the alien forming.

Human-like aliens therefore formed by unnatural means.

As the channels of light/radiation sound in our atmosphere heated, the alien presence then began to change its form and human life at the same time gained new illness from the loss of atmospheric mass.

This is a real condition caused by occultism, being the practice of a human being converting the natural spiritual condition that belongs to Nature and human beings on Earth. Occultism is science and science is evil.

Human spiritual awareness knew that the angelic presence as a light/sound image kept our human life safe....which is why these stories were known as spiritual truths.

The angelic presence in cloud formations changed...and we began to witness the forming of UFO ship like imagery in clouds....angels are depicted by the human awareness to exist in the clouds...and are part of the Heavenly communion that protects human life.

Therefore by personal witness human beings are witnessing the loss of their own spiritual existence as it is being given to the UFO formation for the processing of nuclear dust to form fuel.

Occultists, greedy powermongering human beings pose theories about angels and tried to impose the alien presence as being part of the Angelic light sound imagery on Earth...yet their image proves false itself as the witness describes and draws by design....since when is a beautiful angelic being an evil horrible alien image?

As the channels of light/radiation sound in our atmosphere heated, the alien presence then began to change its form and human life at the same time gained new illness from the loss of atmospheric mass. This is a real condition caused by occultism, being the practice of a human being converting the natural spiritual condition that belongs to Nature and human beings on Earth. Occultism is science and science is evil.

a reply to: beenharmed

So this is pretty much insanity, or at the very least nonsense. I wish I could somehow get back the time it took me to read your post. I only read it because you said it was a reply to my post, which it is not.

Good luck with all that.

Why doubt UFO's?

I don't. I've seen many a UFO. Where I part company with so many of you is they can't possibly all be aliens from where ever.

I've seen UFO's, in Arizona, in Washington, driving through Colorado, Oregon that are mysteries to this day. I've no clue. None.

I once saw a USO while working in Alaska. One that's been seen a couple of times since, though not by me, since I don't live up there anymore, but once by a friend.

But, all in all, I'm a skeptic. I always ask, why aren't believers more skeptical of some of the more, shall we say, outlandish stories.

For example: Fossilized cell phones? ...and you aren't a tad bit skeptical? Or any number of instances of encounters that have more than a few holes in the story?

As the old saying goes: I want to believe, but I'm not going to buy into all the stories just to "confirm" that want.

originally posted by: seagull
Why doubt UFO's?

I don't. I've seen many a UFO. Where I part company with so many of you is they can't possibly all be aliens from where ever.

I've seen UFO's, in Arizona, in Washington, driving through Colorado, Oregon that are mysteries to this day. I've no clue. None.

I once saw a USO while working in Alaska. One that's been seen a couple of times since, though not by me, since I don't live up there anymore, but once by a friend.

But, all in all, I'm a skeptic. I always ask, why aren't believers more skeptical of some of the more, shall we say, outlandish stories.

For example: Fossilized cell phones? ...and you aren't a tad bit skeptical? Or any number of instances of encounters that have more than a few holes in the story?

As the old saying goes: I want to believe, but I'm not going to buy into all the stories just to "confirm" that want.

So don't "believe"' then. Aliens actually prefer that you remain unaware of what they're up to.
You're either convinced by the evidence or you're not, there is no need for faith, or belief.
If you're not convinced, well, there you go. But your disbelief doesn't make the alien occupation any less real. Unfortunately.

a reply to: trueskepticnumberone

"Alien Occupation".

Now see, that's where I have to draw a line. Where is the proof of this? Concrete verifiable proof that I can look at and say, to my own satisfaction, "Wow, that's the truth."

Where is it?

I've been following the UFO/Alien phenomena for the majority of my life, it's not a recent thing with me. Where is the proof?

Show it to me. Don't editorialize it. Give me the raw, unedited proof that you should have to make such large claims of "alien occupation".

I'll wait.

originally posted by: trueskepticnumberone

As the channels of light/radiation sound in our atmosphere heated, the alien presence then began to change its form and human life at the same time gained new illness from the loss of atmospheric mass. This is a real condition caused by occultism, being the practice of a human being converting the natural spiritual condition that belongs to Nature and human beings on Earth. Occultism is science and science is evil.

a reply to: beenharmed

So this is pretty much insanity, or at the very least nonsense. I wish I could somehow get back the time it took me to read your post. I only read it because you said it was a reply to my post, which it is not.

Good luck with all that.

A normal response from an operative.

All human beings who reported alien and the UFO condition have been treated with the same method. You even began to use psychology as a means of interpreting the UFO condition for public disinformation as a process of trying to convince the public that the UFO and alien was not real as a cause and effect of scientific applications.

The use of disinformation also involved human beings who used a method to flatten crops forming patterns...yet worldwide the crops are flattened and patterns witnessed....as were the trees in Russia flattened when the nuclear experiments caused the atmospheric release attack. You always use methods for persuading the public to not review the data as fact.

Why is it that spiritual information involves the occult practices...and the occult science?

Why is it that the PHI information about the holy Christ heavenly spirit returning was a factor involving increments of 10, 100, 1000 as holiness and wisdom?

Satan was also given a factor of 1000.

Nearly 100 years after the nuclear experiment and the atmospheric radiation heating, a meteor hits Russia.

C of the Christ is given a numerical PHI factoring of 100.

The ancient occultist practice was known as being evil...for wisdom in philosophy was only awareness...not practice.

originally posted by: trueskepticnumberone
So don't "believe"' then. Aliens actually prefer that you remain unaware of what they're up to.
You're either convinced by the evidence or you're not, there is no need for faith, or belief.
If you're not convinced, well, there you go. But your disbelief doesn't make the alien occupation any less real. Unfortunately.

I'm personally not convinced of the evidence for alien visitation. That doesn't mean I'm right; I'm simply not convinced that the evidence is enough for me to say that alien visitation is happening. Maybe it is.

However, the evidence being what it is (not exactly overwhelming), the people who personally feel that alien visitation is happening should be just as willing to admit that they might be wrong as I am to admit that I might be wrong.

As for an alien occupation being "real", I'm going to need something more to go on than just your word before I personally feel that the alien occupation of Earth is a real thing.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: trueskepticnumberone

"Alien Occupation".

Now see, that's where I have to draw a line. Where is the proof of this? Concrete verifiable proof that I can look at and say, to my own satisfaction, "Wow, that's the truth."

Where is it?

I've been following the UFO/Alien phenomena for the majority of my life, it's not a recent thing with me. Where is the proof?

Show it to me. Don't editorialize it. Give me the raw, unedited proof that you should have to make such large claims of "alien occupation".

I'll wait.

[SNIP]

Read the work of Dr. Jacobs.

Or Budd Hopkins.

Or Jim Marrs.

Or Dr. Karla Turner, for chrissake.

That's more than enough evidence "that I should have to make the large claim of alien occupation".

Not good enough for you? Too bad, keep pretending they are all wrong and see if that slows down the hybridization program any. Don't hold your breath.

But I must admit to a perverse curiosity in wondering exactly what kind of "proof" you need if the witness statements and testimony of thousands of people involved in the alien hybridization program is just not enough to wake you up?

Maybe a detailed alien memo written in English describing their nefarious plan? Would that be enough?
Maybe an alien on the tonight show telling Jimmy Fallon all about it?
Or do you need a presidential press conference where he spills the beans to all of you?
Is that what you need? Do tell.

The funny part is, the aliens have no problem telling abductees point blank that is exactly what they are doing.
"Soon, we will all be living here together and everyone will know their place."
If that doesn't scare the pants off you enough to take this seriously, it should.
I guess the statements of the aliens themselves just isn't good enough for you either.

Forgive us if we don't wait for you.

originally posted by: beenharmed

originally posted by: trueskepticnumberone

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: manuelram16
a reply to: MDT20
My perspective after reading available ET & UFO material on the web is that it is highly probable they exist and have interacted with Mankind and that our Military may posses real TR-3B craft.
Maybe ETs follow a kinda Star Trek 'Prime directive' or could be Gene Rodenbery got the idea from ET

Or maybe it is all just a social phenomena. When you look at the historical path of UFOs they started very simple (flying saucers) with humanoid aliens just like our first simple ideas about them. As society has grown with books, movies, beliefs etc so has the UFOs ever grown into advance space machines, multi levels of aliens and deep story lines, so either UFOs in the last 50 years have super advanced or our imaginations has grown them into what we see them like today.

Don't kid yourself, they are still flying saucers, and they are still humanoid aliens.

What made you think that changed?

Atomic orbitals, have a look at what form of orbitals form in the atomic nuclear, and you will see most of the UFO body formations themselves.

Has the nuclear been changed on Planet Earth as an outcome of changing the nuclear fused dust?

Of course it has, for we are witnessing the orbital manifestation of light and sound converting bodies in our atmospheric body itself.

Metal belongs to the stone of Earth, therefore as the nuclear involves metal, it is obvious that metallic formed UFO bodies are being caused.

Ask yourself as a Scientist how this situation could be possible.

The answer is simple....a heated radiation outer atmospheric condition was introduced to Planet Earth when science decided to convert a very cold nuclear dust into a fuel condition.

To achieve the result of converting, a higher energy body has to be formed to force the lower body into converting.

This situation included the magnetosphere where spatial radiation particles were held and were dealt with.

As the outer atmosphere heated....so did the natural atmospheric condition change and the atmospheric body keeping life safe began to fall out as all different types of light/sound UFO bodies formed....some of them metal.

Aliens come out of the light/sound artificial chemical reactions caused by an increased star radiation particle interaction, which is why our psyche knows that they are artificial...for it is an artificial chemical interaction that allows nuclear fuel to be created on Earth.

Therefore scientists resourced our atmopshere to form a fuel from dust....this is obvious for the result was atmospheric change as witness to nuclear fuel's unnatural creation on Planet Earth.

Human life by psychic and spiritual evidence records its life in the atmosphere by the condition of how light can form image/photographic memory. We all know this is true for the atmosphere transmits sound and also imagery by recording.

Therefore as human beings survive in a natural atmospheric condition which is an oxygen amassed state...we are protected by this mass.

As the mass of oxygen/water involving hydrogen changed for it was used for the nuclear fuel creation, the light and sound that supports human spiritual presence was removed from our own life self.

Our human presence belongs to the amount of atmospheric mass.

So we witnessed our life being removed from atmospheric mass by the amount of oxygen/water/hydrogen that we use and it was given to a false/fake spirit manifestation instead.

So our psyche knew that our natural life was being given to the alien and we considered this information was a personal abuduction....for we knew that our own normal cellular interaction had changed.

Human beings began to get sick from losing their own natural cellular interaction, as it was given to the alien forming.

Human-like aliens therefore formed by unnatural means.

As the channels of light/radiation sound in our atmosphere heated, the alien presence then began to change its form and human life at the same time gained new illness from the loss of atmospheric mass.

This is a real condition caused by occultism, being the practice of a human being converting the natural spiritual condition that belongs to Nature and human beings on Earth. Occultism is science and science is evil.

Human spiritual awareness knew that the angelic presence as a light/sound image kept our human life safe....which is why these stories were known as spiritual truths.

The angelic presence in cloud formations changed...and we began to witness the forming of UFO ship like imagery in clouds....angels are depicted by the human awareness to exist in the clouds...and are part of the Heavenly communion that protects human life.

Therefore by personal witness human beings are witnessing the loss of their own spiritual existence as it is being given to the UFO formation for the processing of nuclear dust to form fuel.

Occultists, greedy powermongering human beings pose theories about angels and tried to impose the alien presence as being part of the Angelic light sound imagery on Earth...yet their image proves false itself as the witness describes and draws by design....since when is a beautiful angelic being an evil horrible alien image?

Yea, what he said...

However, the evidence being what it is (not exactly overwhelming), the people who personally feel that alien visitation is happening should be just as willing to admit that they might be wrong as I am to admit that I might be wrong.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

So in your twisted logic, the people who have actually seen aliens, and the people who have actually been taken and communicated with aliens, are just as likely to be wrong as you?

Let's see, these people with direct contact, and, In many cases, military officials who have witnessed living aliens as well as alien bodies. Yet when they say aliens are real, their opinion is somehow no more valid than your guess that aliens are not here?
Somehow, in your mind, you have convinced yourself that these witnesses are no more informed on the existence of aliens than you are?

That is not rational.