Fascism is Not Right Wing, it is socialist.

originally posted by: xuenchen
You still can't show any clear and concise "sources" or even "definitions".

That doesn't mean that we have to automatically accept yours.

I agree with you 100%

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Tell me another story.

russp.us...

And don't forget Senator Robert Byrd, his party got all choked up when he left this plain of existence.

Your source contains a splendid reference to the benefits of thorium and appears to be deeply confused about a large number of issues.
I will explain however. The old Democratic Party could not be described in any way as being 'left-wing'. It was socially conservative, racist (as was the Republican Party and pretty much everyone else in Congress at that time) and supportive of slavery. The Republicans were a new party, were not right wing (in fact they could be described as progressives in a number of ways) and yes they opposed slavery. Ended it too.
After that things get complicated. There were radical republicans, liberal republicans and eventually the faction of the part that coalesced around Teddy Roosevelt.
That faction fled the Republicans in the 1900's and then eventually joined the Democrats, who were in the middle of moving progressively further and further leftwards. This was much to the disgust of the Dixiecrats - you know, the racists and bigots of the South, as opposed to the moderates of the North like FDR - who jumped ship and joined the Republicans.
So there you go. Some facts for you! And even a cite.

Socialism is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding on whats for dinner.

People often mistake America for a Democracy, when it is actually a Constitutional Republic. The problem with Democracy at it's purest form is that 51% can tell the other 49% what to do, which is inevitably Socialism and what took place in Nazi Germany.

a reply to: Konduit

National Socialist German Workers Party was a ruse used by Hitler to get control. He had to get everyone on board before taking over. Once he did everyone was subject to his supreme authority as dictator.

The Soviets called theirs the USSR, United Soviet Socialist Republics, to fool the world at large. Theywere as Republic as the Nazis. Neither is the US supposed to be socialist.

Modern cries are the largest social engineering constructs on the planet.

People can claim their country is this and that ideology but can't live without Social programs like Road works, police and fire, public schools, public transit, mail delivery and welfare.

a reply to: xuenchen

It isn't an unwillingness to show definitions on my part, but rather, an unwillingness on your part to see them objectively. Complain as you might to the contrary, the record accurately shows what I provided, and any earnest--even cursory--search of the terms will prove their validity.

a reply to: intrptr

I guess we can agree that Socialism is the disguise used to commit some of the worst atrocities in modern history.

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: intrptr

I guess we can agree that Socialism is the disguise used to commit some of the worst atrocities in modern history.

That and religion. Mix the two and watch out…

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: intrptr

I guess we can agree that Socialism is the disguise used to commit some of the worst atrocities in modern history.

It would be fairer to say that Communism was guilty of that. Nazism was a right-wing torrent of murderous filth.

originally posted by: Konduit
Socialism is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding on whats for dinner.

Hmmm. I think what you've defined there is capitalism... where the citizens inherently start from unequal positions and some have more power than others from the get go. In Socialism, it would be more appropriate to say 3 dogs from a dog pack decide what's for dinner. Equal and with a willingness to cooperate and share.

Im glad we have all these conservative scholars, who truly are the cream of the intellectual crop, lecturing us on what facism is.

originally posted by: muse7
Im glad we have all these conservative scholars, who truly are the cream of the intellectual crop, lecturing us on what facism is.

Considering us conservative scholars learned that lesson the hard way since we now have to ask the state for permission to exercise a RIGHT.

See number 2 of the Bill of Rights.

Courtsey of LEFT WING fascist's.

a reply to: neo96

What exactly did you learn?

a reply to: daskakik

I learned thanks to LEFT wing fascists and their 'control' of people have to prove their worth to the STATE then they might be granted their constitutional RIGHT.

The famous background check to prove a person is WORTHY to keep, and bear arms.

That is pure unadulterated FASCISM.

A party governing a nation “totalitarianly" is a new departure in history. There are no points of reference nor of comparison. From beneath the ruins of liberal, socialist, and democratic doctrines, Fascism extracts those elements which are still vital. It preserves what may be described as "the acquired facts" of history; it rejects all else. That is to say, it rejects the idea of a doctrine suited to all times and to all people. Granted that the XIXth century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the XXth century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the " right ", a Fascist century.

The Doctrine Of Fascism

a reply to: neo96

To bad you didn't learn what fascism actually means. That would have helped a lot more in this discussion than your tangent about the 2nd.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I'm sure he has seen that before as well but, I'm also sure it doesn't matter.

a reply to: neo96

left wing fascist?

are you saying that the majority of the left is conservative?

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: neo96

To bad you didn't learn what fascism actually means. That would have helped a lot more in this discussion than your tangent about the 2nd.

Well we sure know it doesn't mean 'liberal'.

Cause that words means 'FREEDOM'.

Contrary to DOGMA I do others not so much.

a reply to: daskakik

I'm sure he has seen that before as well but, I'm also sure it doesn't matter.

That is unfortunate.

It seems odd that some people want Fascism to be left-wing and socialist so badly as if it is really really important. I guess some conservatives want to distance themselves from that.