Just Revealed: Roman Sword Reportedly Found Off Oak Island

a reply to: Xtrozero

I wonder what the romans would bring to island

originally posted by: gflyg
a reply to: Xtrozero

I wonder what the romans would bring to island

Or how they got there. It's an Ebay sword so we do not need to think about it anyways...hehe At least they could have gotten some real artifacts and then just planted them.

originally posted by: gflyg
a reply to: Xtrozero

I wonder what the romans would bring to island

Ebay/Roma

a reply to: theantediluvian

Maybe a Roman Dagger but hardly a sword lol. A kids sword more like. Nothing sitting on the ocean floor would normally look this good but its so dam cold up there it might not get very much growth. If it was in a warm climate it never would have been found as it would be covered by a reef of Barnacles.

Brilliant a find as this is (if true and genuine) it is not yet proof positive.

while i fully accept people were visiting living and trading around what is now North America
long before Columbus,s grandfather was a boy.

This sword may well be Roman but there is no proof that it was left there by a Roman
it could have been lost by a passing trader from any time in the last thousand years
or planted there 6 months ago. more evidence required.

romanofficer.com... Seems to be a trophy sword for gladiators, probably more than one made, Not really for fighting. Google-Roman Officer Permanent Collection Gladiator Artifacts.

Seems the sword is a genuine artifact as attested to here:


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you guys should probably go read page 3

a reply to: Marduk

well that's the first time I've seen a genuine roman artifact offered for sale on Linens and Things! Apparently that's the new front for antiquities smugglers

Here is the History Channel presenting their "discovery," when they had Pulitzer on their show:



Here is the corrected version of that:



(with apologies to Bugs Bunny cartoons)

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: Marduk

well that's the first time I've seen a genuine roman artifact offered for sale on Linens and Things! Apparently that's the new front for antiquities smugglers

I think 28 Euros is a bit of a giveaway price too
what do you think it means where it says "exclusive museum replica"

a reply to: Marduk

Most definitely. Smugglers aren't known for their low ball prices. Not even in bulk on Linensandthings.com!

If anybody is interested in hearing more about the sword, the podcast Earth Ancients most recent episode has a little segment with one of the researchers..

It was a ceremonial sword and was also used for navigation

starts at the 5:30 mark

a reply to: theantediluvian

There's actually a lot more talked about than just the sword. I recommend checking it out, if even just remotely interested in Oak Island

a reply to: BoldAlligator

It appears to have a very elaborate and unusual hilt. Hercules or somebody, apparently. You don't see that in examples of other similar bronze swords.

I guess we won't find out about its authenticity until somebody does a real excavation of the shipwreck -- followed by a series of "ifs."

originally posted by: BoldAlligator
If anybody is interested in hearing more about the sword, the podcast Earth Ancients most recent episode has a little segment with one of the researchers..

I'm still skeptical about the sword, but that was a great interview and now I'm hooked on the archives of that podcast. There were some amazing guests on there!

www.blogtalkradio.com...

Seeing as how there's an "actual" sword and a number of cheap replicas with the exact same design on the hilt, I'm tending to think this might be one of the cheap replicas and that somebody has either been hornswaggled or is trying to hornswaggle somebody.

It's the Mummy Boy all over again. And people wonder how I can be so cynical.

A new TV series Forbidden History states that there is a cave between 2 Islands that they call King David's Tomb.
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New Insights into the Origin and History of the Hercules-Hilted Swords
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They Are All "Copies"

It's clear that we've got a lot of swords now that were made from the same mold or are copies of swords made from the same mold. Here's a comparison of six brass/bronze swords plus the iron Design Toscano sword. (As an aside, I don't think the proponents of the "Roman sword from Nova Scotia" claim were at all prepared for how many of these things would surface once people were looking for them. If they had known that there were were a lot of copies floating around, they presumably would have been prepared for that information and not had to scramble to make up a sequence of baloney stories about Photoshop, plastic swords, the Emperor of Rome issuing a set of ten, etc.).

All the swords are "copies" in that they were all cast - the similarities in the figures make that obvious. Molten bronze, brass, or iron was poured into a mold that was created using some object. Even the very first sword, then, was a copy of some original object.

He goes on to explain the process.

The "Roman sword" people say it's a ceremonial sword, either given away to those very special legion commanders so they can use its magical powers to navigate to Oak Island, or perhaps used in some kind of gladiator-related ceremony. Neither of those sound very likely to me, and I have yet to hear a Roman antiquities expert endorse either interpretation as plausible.
I'd like to introduce the possibility that the original was a hunting sword. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about hunting swords:

"A hunting sword is a type of single-handed short sword that dates to the 12th Century but was used during hunting parties among Europeans from the 17th to the 19th centuries. A hunting sword usually has a straight, single-edged, pointed blade typically no more than 25 inches long. This sword was used for finishing off game in lieu of using and wasting further shot. Adopted by many Europeans, and in past centuries sometimes worn by military officers as a badge of rank, hunting swords display amazing variety in design."

The "amazing variety in design" is important. Do a Google image search on "hunting sword" and browse through the results. You'll see some pretty plain swords, but you'll also see swords with very ornately carved grips, including some with human figures. ​Here's one with a carved ivory lion as a grip. Here's another ivory grip with a bunch of different animals on it. Here's one with Hercules cast in silver. These swords are functional, but their restricted use means they can be a lot fancier than their workaday military grade counterparts.

My friend Jeff Plunkett introduced me to the idea of a hunting sword when he emailed me with this description of of a hunting sword taken from page 242 of the National Exhibition of Works of Art at Leeds 1868:

Sorry if already posted, I did read some of the topic

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