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originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: Marduk
I Agree. Any "Expert" would have no problem distinguishing that object from Iron. It is bronze.
Romans used bronze early on, but in the days of the empire, it was iron and steel. If it is actually authentic, then it would most likely be 1000 BC or earlier, which is a super stretch, but most likely faked, as you suggest.
originally posted by: Marduk
This is a rust deterioration colour chart for rusting steel
As you can see the genuine sword is the same colour as the 40+ year rust chart says it should be
But the one which is being claimed for Oak island is green
Steel does not rust into a green colour
Only copper and copper alloys do that
Copper does not make effective swords being far too soft, the romans never made swords out of copper and as these swords are identical, you can safely assume that they should be made from the exact same material
This is a copper rust colour chart
So clearly, this new sword is a cheap copy of the genuine one and a recent copy at that. The owner of the original David Xavier Kenney, makes a living from selling antiquities and specialises in the Roman period. So all this proves is that David Kenny has been making copies of genuine swords and then selling them on artificially aged to the unsuspecting public.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: theantediluvian
Look's to have been a highly decorative item, I doubt it got there via the Roman's themselves but could have come via trade as a valuable item, maybe even early Nordic or even as many suspect Phoenician traders.
Still it is one of the most enigmatic sites in the US and who knows just maybe after all most of the documents that the Romans had were lost with the end of there empire and Columbus must have gained his claimed portolon's from somewhere if indeed he did have portolon's showing land to the west so maybe some roman expedition had reached that far it is conceivable though there ship's would have struggled in the Atlantic seas so the voyage would have been extremely treacherous, still they based them on Carthaginian vessels and there is claim the Carthaginians may have reached America over two thousand years ago so?.
originally posted by: oletimer
The optimal source for the provenance of ancient Roman swords is... Ebay!
SPECIAL COMMEMORATIVE SCULPTURE BRONZE SWORD HANDLE ROMAN STATUE EUR 75,00
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: LABTECH767
I am confused.
You said that Phoenician traders might have had a hand in delivering the item to its current location, but that would be odd, if only because my understanding of things is that the Phoenician culture had little influence after the fall of Rome, leave alone the power and spare resources to send a ship clear across an oceanic expanse which, at the time, was considered a route to the edge of the world.
They were a pre-Roman era culture, or at least, their culture influenced the Roman one, along with the Carthaginians, the Etruscans, and the various Greek cultures which came before the Romans. Where have I gone wrong?
originally posted by: oletimer
Bah!
Who needs dusty old color charts to help determine the provenance of this sword?
Silly Rabbit!
The optimal source for the provenance of ancient Roman swords is... Ebay!
SPECIAL COMMEMORATIVE SCULPTURE BRONZE SWORD HANDLE ROMAN STATUE EUR 75,00
originally posted by: gflyg
Will someone please explain to me. With all the money that has been spent on that island. Why haven't they just pit mined that whole section? I'm sure the process wouldn't be easy with having to build a dam as well but with all the money that has changed hands in regards to that island and all the money that will be spent. If Rick and Marty just did that from the start we would know what was down there at a much cheaper cost.
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