Five police officers claim Donald Trump is RIGHT about parts of London

a reply to: Willtell

I love that Poem/Parable, Will.

Always very effective.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I have gay friends that have been approached by a Shia gang as per the video and thus the reason I know it's an issue. This happened in Hackney!

I've also heard of a time when I lived in Glasgow and some youths tried the same thing with a taxi driver, needless to say the Scots don't tolerate this kind of # and the lads were beaten within an inch of their lives.

I do agree with your point about no go areas for police, I don't know of any in London, I was responding more to the point of certain parts of our capital city becoming Islamic and as you know i'd have the same issue if christians were doing the same thing.

IMHO I think its ludicrous that a petition has been started by the British to ban Trump visiting the UK and yet we allow Islamic hate preachers on the streets preaching hate and pouncing of our state system!!

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

These no go areas are ruled by the gangs and they protect their own people ( like pakistani areas etc ) the fact that you have lived in many so called nogo areas doesn´t mean you would be safe when you go another area which is also a nogo area but different ethnicity.
So when police arrive to these no go areas .. can you tell us how many patrols come at once.. i am sure police is not safe when they come in with one car or two.
Im not saying you are lying just not telling the important issue of the sceneries..sugarcoating a bit

a reply to: flammadraco

I see, my friend.

Then it is a mere miscommunication on our part, we are discussing separate issues and fully agree with each other lol.
Weird how that happens online.


I'm not too bothered by the petition, I signed it for s#s & giggles...
But you're right there should be more petitions about the radical clerics too...

I think the difficulty lies within their citizenship most of the time.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Yes many have been arrested but it still continues to this day, they all seem to go to the same mosque. Personally I'd close down the mosque if it was allowing imams to preach hatred but our country has become so PC it's shocking. Not sure if you know what happened in North of England where young girls were being groomed by Muslim men. The authorities knew it was going on for years and did nothing as they never wanted to appear "racist" and deal with the issue including the police.

a reply to: flammadraco
Like you say not police per say the police aren't going to other countries, killing and raping people (Lee rigbys killers justification). It is perceived as the military. Unfortunately Lee was wearing affiliated clothing.

a reply to: dollukka

No you misunderstand dollukka, my friend...
I wouldn't sugar coat it as it serves no purpose other than to mislead my fellow ATS friends...
And I have no intention of doing so.

I've no doubts that in certain areas and for certain demographics police "man up", or as Shamrock said, bolster their defences and come in full force rather than a single squad car...

But they will still turn up...
There is no "no go zones" for police...

There are dangerous places civilians might avoid for fear of being attacked, but that is not exclusive to Muslim areas, mainly gang territories.

I think it's highly likely those clerics such as Abu hamza weren't just allowed to preach their idiocy and tolerated, they were fully protected. People like haroon rashid aswat certainly were.

I know many muslims that were very suspicious of anybody being allowed to openly preach hatefulness while systems like prevent were targeting people who had never spoken out or done anything wrong.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

he's obviously America First

And that's all a candidate needs to win. He doesn't sound sweet to my ears neither but he is not projecting a false perfect image.

originally posted by: Prezbo369
You created a thread because the Daily Fail ( notorious for its super right wing views) basically said 'some random guys said X'....?

I review all sources of information... doing my best to stomach both extremes such as Salon.com and FoxNews... including the Daily Mail, it's the only way to form a complete picture of the full spectrum of madness that is "news."

It's not a story worth reading, and a poor attempt at excusing Trumps comments

It's of extremely high value. The Daily Mail has historically prevented much of the extreme Islamaphobia rampant in right-wing US News, while also being very critical of Trump (six critical stories on the front page right now). In that regard, a story such as this is indeed worth reading, and comparing to all else that is being published.

He's done, and you're gonna have to come to terms with that.

While I think a Trump presidency would be a disaster, from today's vantage point, it's a very high probability. To me, Trump's comments on banning entry to the US based on a religious test, is the rhetorical equivalent to the Munich Putsch, otherwise known as the Beer Hall Putsch -- many are calling it an act of treason, and that "act" has greatly ramped up discussion and awareness of Trump.

a reply to: rossacus

Lee Rigby was not wearing army uniform when he was murdered. He was wearing a "help the heroes" t shirt!

originally posted by: MagnaCarta2015
I think it's highly likely those clerics such as Abu hamza weren't just allowed to preach their idiocy and tolerated, they were fully protected. People like haroon rashid aswat certainly were.

I know many muslims that were very suspicious of anybody being allowed to openly preach hatefulness while systems like prevent were targeting people who had never spoken out or done anything wrong.

There are rumours that these radical clerics, like Choudary et al, are really MI5 informants that grass on the dangerous ones and thus get the protection to spout their insane garbage.

It's believable in a way.

I don't condone it though because there is always the risk that a percentage would be missed.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Prezbo369

Was he excusing trump, funny I didn't see that.

Yeah I'm sure you didn't...

You know, I welcome debate and disagreement however I don't think I've ever talked to the owner of this website like that and I don't think I ever would, if not just for respect.

Well that was cringeworthy.....feel a little sick now...

Anything on-topic to add?

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

London used to be quite peaceful place. Even i visited Soho and nothing dangerous was then there. Now there are many areas that i should avoid going.. no go zones..

No Go Zones are not only linked to police and police patrols ..it is for all.. you go there at your own risk.. am i wrong ?

It would seem to me that any action intended to subrogate the existing laws of a country would constitute an attempt to essentially overthrow that country. Anyone involved in such actions would therefore be committing treason. Start picking-up these over-testosteroned asshats and charging them with treason and things will quiet down pretty quickly I'm thinking.

a reply to: dollukka

Yes, no different to Compton or the Bronx, there are places in London people would rather avoid.


It's still a peaceful place though.

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No surprise the daily mail flirting with facism again.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Charlie I have to say none of those areas you have lived in are predominately islam areas. This may be the reason for your perception.

But I agree this to be a form of islam phobia.

a reply to: flammadraco
Fair enough. He was promoting a cause they disagreed with then( there reasons still applicable) still affiliated clothing. Didn't he just come from the barrack? I could be wrong with that

a reply to: woodwardjnr

So did the royal family. Everyone makes mistakes. Although I hate the daily mail.