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Five police officers claim Donald Trump is RIGHT about parts of London

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posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:02 AM
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It is not a secret. It is just something that main media tries to hide.

In here i paste translation of the blog which is written by a chairman of finnish police Yrjö Suhonen about working situation police face everyday now.


Workplace Safety

"Police safety will deteriorate, especially in sparsely populated areas", thus treated in the government budget for the coming year.
This had been exported to the books and the covers before the influx of asylum seekers.

This prediction seems to have struck, safety at work has already begun to deteriorate. At least, this field tells you. Ilta-Sanomat writes 02.12.2015 a significant increase of asylum seekers suspected crimes. This phenomenon is related to the fact that the police in the traditional way does not tell the whole truth out. Silence has its reasons. They do not want to stir up xenophobia and thereby increase the problems even further.

The police daily routines are in any case gone to many new locations. Placed in the territory of the receiving centers employ. There targeted resource management is out of the normal duties of so-called police. The police are going to treat the alarms related to reception centers in several patrol forces, says the National Police Commissioner Seppo Kolehmainen Ilta-Sanomat in an interview.
In this way it should be, but the reception centers are located throughout the Finland, even in sparsely populated areas.
There has traditionally been necessary to wait for the one and only police patrol to arrive, at worst, for hours.

Support Scouting is generally the unrealized illusion. This should also control the placement of the reception centers. Given the problems associated, the location must be there, for the help also can be found quickly. This is a benefit for all, both for the migrants and the authorities. As says Kolehmainen, disruptions may be accompanied by dozens of people. Became aware of the situation, which was the only spot a police patrol has had to fight their way out, with dozens of hostile young men besieging it.

Take some time before the integration is so long that the immigrant realizes the Finnish official immunity. In Finland, the police Stoning is not popular entertainment. Fortunately.

Google translation..

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Police force do not have enough menpower not in here and i believe this is a situation across the EU and US too. When there are migration in this scale and no money and time to school new officers.. you bet it reflects into security of us all...



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
As for Trump — I don't see how the statement can be made that he's somehow "America First."

I've been making a point of talking to as many people as I can, here in NYC, about the Trump phenomenon. Those who support him typically say some version of: "I don't like everything he says, but he's obviously America First, and no one else is."

It's a fascinating phenomenon, not without dire historical parallels.


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posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
They're full of s#...

I'm originally from one of the roughest parts of London, if not the roughest and the only reason it's a "no go" for police is because we hate their lying manipulative guts...

They've been setting people up for years where I'm from...

It's called backlash, & it's nothing to do with Islamification...
It's been happening long before Muslims had any significant numbers within London communities.


I think your bias is showing Charlie.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: flammadraco

Some Muslims are going to TRY to get other people to go along with their religion. Duh! Christians do the exact same thing. There's no law against posting posters or commenting on people's dress or behavior. If it becomes harassment, there are laws against that.

In the US, we have a LOT of practice at keeping religion out of government, and sometimes we succeed, but there's no difference in what these young Muslim men are doing and what some Christians do here. Look at religious billboards or people like Kim Davis, actually forcing people to obey God's Law.

Some religious people like to force their religious laws on other people. The authorities need to step in and draw the line.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

The point is a useless one since--believe me--there are cops in America who wont go to many parts of the American hood.


And just because Trump’s says something that has a grain of truth to it is no big thing


Even Hitler liked DOGS

And could tell you whether it was raining or not

Another thing, there are numerous communities in America right now where black people will not go in or their lives will be in peril

So Trump’s point is pointless



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:08 AM
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I work in a major metropolitan area, with legitimate gang and organized crime activity. The kind of gangs that wouldn't bat an eyelash at throwing down with law enforcement if it came down to it.

And I can't even imagine being told a neighborhood was a no-go zone for us.

There are any number of areas that we will absolutely "roll deep" when we go in there. But staying out altogether? Not a chance.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic


There's no law against posting posters or commenting on people's dress or behavior.


Watch the video I posted BH, within the first minute a gay guy is told to "F*** Off Faggot, get out of here". That is illegal in this Country and would be considered a hate crime.

I agree with everything else in your post!



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord

The Met has over 30,000 officers and the Daily Heil sorry Mail is reporting that 5 un-named officers have confirmed the story via a right wing american web site.

Sounds convincing to me.....



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: forkedtongue

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
They're full of s#...

I'm originally from one of the roughest parts of London, if not the roughest and the only reason it's a "no go" for police is because we hate their lying manipulative guts...

They've been setting people up for years where I'm from...

It's called backlash, & it's nothing to do with Islamification...
It's been happening long before Muslims had any significant numbers within London communities.


But isn't your take a biased one charles?

Why should we trust a Muslims words about negative Muslim impacts?

You would obviously defend islam blindly, unless you saw definitive evidence.

Just like most Christians would defend Christians up front, unless given definitive evidence.

Not acussing you of being facetious, just pointing out the fact, you are likely letting personal bias influence your opinion on the subject.


I think you're wrong in his assessment. Over the years, I haven't seen his opinions or observations overly clouded by personal bias. I also don't believe most Christians would automatically defend Christians. If that were true, most of us (meaning the majority of Christians I know North of the Mason-Dixon, myself included) wouldn't be so cynical about what we call "so-called Christians."



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: Prezbo369

Was he excusing trump, funny I didn't see that.

You know, I welcome debate and disagreement however I don't think I've ever talked to the owner of this website like that and I don't think I ever would, if not just for respect.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: flammadraco
Watch the video I posted BH, within the first minute a gay guy is told to "F*** Off Faggot, get out of here". That is illegal in this Country and would be considered a hate crime.


If it's illegal, then what's the problem? Do Muslims always follow the law? Probably not. Does ANYONE? Probably not.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: flammadraco

Ok.

Honest answer to a genuine question;
When you lived in these areas did you ever see police patrol units...
Street bobbies...
We're there ever disturbances you saw them attending the scene?



This is about no go areas for police based on Islamification...

Not prisons or sharia patrols...


I've yet to live somewhere where police won't show up...

I've lived in East Acton, Shepherds Bush, White City, Hayes, Hillingdon, Fulham, and Hammersmith...

Never have I been to an area where police won't show up?

It's nowt to do with blinkers, Flam.

It's observation.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: flammadraco

I don't want drunk morons and slags running around outside my house at 3 o clock in the morning either. They're a menace. The fighting and noise is insane and having to dodge puke on the pavement the next day is disgusting. If these people want to clean up their community and make it a better place to live then good for them. At least they're exhibiting some social responsibility.

They would be rendered totally obsolete if police made a serious effort to enforce anti social behaviour laws anyway. The question shouldn't even be how is this allowed to happen it's why have things got so bad that the police can't even manage to efficiently carry out the most simple part of their duties anymore?



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: flammadraco

I watched the video. Only a handful of men are involved in the patrols and 5 have been arrested. If they were getting off scot-free for harassing people, I would see your point, but they are being arrested, just as anyone would.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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Another point…

One thing Muslims generally are not accused of is street, gang violence.


Those cops may be talking from an ethnic viewpoint, or maybe the poor Muslims areas have Muslims gangsters having zilch to do with religion…I don’t know but the idea of cops being afraid or other people of going into an ethnic enclave is very common.


Maybe the cops are afraid, so what its human and it is reasonable that that might fear terrorism


I recall long before 2001 and this terror craze my boss joked about Arab customers might be terrorists so this is no great insight into anything



I’m sure British cops use to be afraid to go into Belfast when the Ira was doing their thing


One thing for sure I don’t think there’s any Muslim community in America where cops are afraid to go into



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: Anosognosia

Anti-UK Police bias?

Muslim bias?

Allergic to bulls# bias?

I couldn't care less what you think my intentions are every word I've said is 100% true.
I've lived here for 28 years in some of the worst areas imaginable and the police will still show up.

Always.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: SkepticOverlord


Ummm...WOW...are you all being purposefully obtuse...how on earth can you read the OP and not even address the question...How do you miss the only salient point of what the OP had to say..which let me remind you all...was...



However, is Trump crazy like a fox? Is he throwing stuff like this out there, stuff he knows would never happen, as part of a broader communications strategy to keep drilling home the idea that he's the only candidate that is definably, America First.


Get a grip people...
...with the instant on hyperbole and address the post...

ON TOPIC:...To be honest Skeptic...I'm not sure...I do think that what he's doing is calculated to exactly bring about the results that he achieves...It's obvious...It's also obvious that he's not some kind of misogynist racist bigot...all of his behind the scenes dealings with people counter that argument...
I think that it's a brilliant strategy...he goes to the extreme and everybody talks about the issue...It keeps the issue forefront and causes other people to play catch up...all while they demonize and call names and throw aspersions...turning them into the caricature they point fingers at...while talking about the issue...

It's too freaking funny...


YouSir



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: MagnaCarta2015

You've missed the point - they are not patrolling because of a noise complaint, they are patrolling because they want Shia law in their community.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:25 AM
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I use to like Trump when he talked about getting jobs back and not doing neocon stuff and stopping Bush

But look, when he mocked that disabled guy and started talking about the Islamophobics stuff, as well I was never crazy about sending children back to Mexico; I had to draw the line.

The guy is talking Nazi, evil stuff and no job or other policies I like are worth supporting in-human stuff

I live by standards of morality and Justice FOR ALL!

Trump has left the human race as far as I’m concerned and put himself in the same bag as Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, those kinds or at least potentially.



NEVER FORGET THIS:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.



posted on Dec, 9 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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I live close to a travellers site where the police refuse to go. I wouldn't go there either.



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