the UK has voted in favour of Syrian air strikes.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: sg1642

But I do think we all should be working together I mean the Russians and the USA are communicating which raids they are doing so hopefully we will all work together.
Otherwise someone will make a mistake and nukes start flying.

Do you really believe all that superficial lip service? US and Russia are working against each other in this fight while pretending to be on the same side.

a reply to: Shiloh7

The endgame is still what it was originally - the removal of Assad and a puppet regime in place. Just look how well that turned out in Libya!

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

No I hope it is. It should be shouldn't it?.
But hopefully with us Brits getting more involved our calmer disposition will rub off we can help focus every nation on the actual enemy and not squabbling and have a big willy contest.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Sorry BM you sound naive...today is a sad day in UK history for me.

a reply to: grainofsand

I think I'm forcing myself into a glass half full mood otherwise I may just give up with all the crap happening.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Hope and reality are two separate things. Russia wants Assad in power and US/France/UK/Germany do not.

Russian is against ISIS and FSA. USA is supporting FSA which is supporting ISIS. Both ISIS and FSA are against Assad.

I don't like Russia, but Putin has the right idea: to kill ISIS you must stop the FSA. America will not let that happen.

What you are seeing is the prologue to WW3, not diplomacy.

Anyhow I'm up for stringing up Cameron anyhow after we help destroy ISIS.

a reply to: sg1642

So we are taking in 20,000 of there refugees and also planing to bomb there towns and villages in to oblivion, while that swine Cameron does nothing but hamper on about austerity, austerity, austerity.

Just about everyone agrees that bombing Syria is a bad idea that will solve nothing and only add and/or create more bloodshed and additional problems. Nobody wants this to happen so how our so called political establishment can sanction such a preposterous notion is beyond my understanding.

So how big is ISIS ?
I've only ever seen pictures of a few dozen at any one time, so how come it needs all these major powers to take them out? They took out poor old Sadam and his entire army in just a few weeks!

Can somebody please explain to me where the vast isis army is?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: sg1642

So we are taking in 20,000 of there refugees and also planing to bomb there towns and villages in to oblivion, while that swine Cameron does nothing but hamper on about austerity, austerity, austerity.

Just about everyone agrees that bombing Syria is a bad idea that will solve nothing and only add and/or create more bloodshed and additional problems. Nobody wants this to happen so how our so called political establishment can sanction such a preposterous notion is beyond my understanding.

And what do you think those refugees' reaction will be when a stray bomb from a British aircraft kills a load of kids.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
So we just let ISIS continue and do not help clear up the mess we helped make?.
Remember who we are bombing here maybe?.

Remember the UK is a part of the NATO (Northern Alliance of Terror Operations)
NATO was not invited to clean up anything in Syria as NATO is the culprit.
NATO's plan has not changed! Only taken a slight detour.
UK is not bombing ISIS but rather bombing any resistance to it.

Double speak ''We must bomb ISIS'' really saying ''We will aid our pet goat ISIS and bomb the F*** out Syria some more'''

UK like Turkey, France, Saudi Arabia, USA, ISrael etc Have invested heavily into ISIS and other groups to destabilize Syria.
WHY? for the oil? for a gas pipe line? or is it to get Russia roped into direct conflict with NATO? starting WW4? and global depopulation.

a reply to: sg1642

I certainly don't think it will go down to well when it happens, and that's pretty much a given.

I wonder what the reaction of the British public would be should someone decide to bomb Mr Cameron? Because if anyone deserves to be destroyed he does.

originally posted by: VoidHawk
So how big is ISIS ?
I've only ever seen pictures of a few dozen at any one time, so how come it needs all these major powers to take them out? They took out poor old Sadam and his entire army in just a few weeks!

Can somebody please explain to me where the vast isis army is?

They could be under your bed, or in your sock drawer!
ISIS is everywhere and nowhere, conveniently!

Here's my take, isis is nothong more than media disinfo. This a gost we chase after whilst the so called ''moderates'' or the real terrorists are given free passage by NATO.

Funny when Russia bombs seven types of crap out of the terrorists, NATO says Russia is bombing all but ISIS! Funny that, don't you think?


BRITAIN THE PEOPLE!!!! TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY FROM THESE PSYCOS!!!!

a reply to: Soloprotocol

I am in favour of taking action whether it be bombing or boots on the ground (boots on the ground would be my choice) but for those who are against this I ask the same question that I did on facebook, the same question I did when I was at work today and the same question I will ask for years to come -

WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE PLAN

Present to me what you would do in place of the bombings because I am honestly open eared and willing to listen but remember you alternative plan must deal with the threat of ISIS as best you can, you must present it in a way that is clear for us to understand.

I am not a Tory lover in fact I voted against them both times and will always do so but we have to take some action because this is getting closer and closer to home and while I know people like to say "It was planned by the governments" and all that stuff and trust me I'm right up there with you but at some point you have to do something and I've yet to see anyone present a proper logical opposite so SPEAK otherwise stop complaining about what action people are taking and remember that if by some horrible trick of fate one of your loved ones is a victim of this attack you were the ones who said not to bomb them.

So I'll end with "Tell me your plan" and dont give me the sanctions crap because Isis is being backed by a number of middle eastern countries.

a reply to: Dwoodward85

How about we leave them the hell alone to sort out there own problems?

Think of it this way what would people say should Syria or any other nation half way around the world decide to intervene and launch airstrikes against our own nation?

End of the day all our airstrikes will accomplish is to breed the next generation of terrorist.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
So we just let ISIS continue and do not help clear up the mess we helped make?.
Remember who we are bombing here maybe?.

Digging a deeper hole to get out of it sounds like a good idea?
The US is supporting the terrs to topple Assad, the Russians are bombing the terrs. Pretty clear lines of demarkation.

Proof in pudding: Turkey (NATO) downing a Russian jet.

Perhaps rather than finding money for bombs our government could find money to help British citizens who are struggling here at home.

a reply to: sg1642

I hear you. We have the same problem here in the U.S.. Money is no problem when it comes to waging war. In the mean time, legislatures talk about cutting social security and Medicare. Citizens are not the priority. Yet we continue to pay taxes to pay for outrageous salaries and benefits for our representatives. While they're living the high life, they continue to ignore the needs of their constituents.

a reply to: andy06shake

So you think that ISIS who are in Syria are willing to agree to that. You really think Syria will just nod along and leave us alone and not bother to attack us? Oh wait it's the typical reaction of sticking your head into the sand and pretending the world is full of fluffy clouds. What a silly child like hope.

I'm sorry but the world isn't a place built from candy canes with rivers of soda pop (as Americans would say), we are living in the real world ISIS have declared war on us and it is time that our governments have the balls to say the same. So no you stepped up, you presented your option and failed.

ISIS will attack us whether we are part of it or not. So, I say thank you for playing and attempting to put yours across but you didn't put up a plan. Leaving them alone...ha what a silly idea.

a reply to: andy06shake

How about we leave them the hell alone to sort out there own problems?

Too late, plans for world domination are too far advanced to stop now. The banks are owed too much, the military is under contract and building the next generation of weapons… you can't expect them to just give up and go home? Why, they'd be ruined.

(love your Avatar, btw)

a reply to: Dwoodward85
Very simple in fact.
Let Russia (whom I might add is the only force at the request of the Syrian Government) to get on with removing the terrorists capacity to fund their operations.
Sanctions? Well that won't happen because that would be a conflict of interest for the UK inside NATO
The best the UK could do now is stand back as the UK's hands are already covered in blood.
Even better but I can't see happening is REAL talks with Syria and Russia on how to solve this mess.