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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Metallicus
Promoting the General Welfare is part of the Constitution.
Why must you guys cry 'socialist agenda'?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Sanders Beats All Top Republican Candidates In Latest Poll
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination, is gaining steam against top Republican rivals, according to a national Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.
In a hypothetical matchup against the current GOP front-runner, business mogul Donald Trump, Sanders takes 49 percent of the vote to Trump's 41 percent. Against Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Sanders leads 44 percent to 43 percent. He also beats Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 10 percentage points and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson by 6 points.
Sanders still going strong! Oh it gets better. Read on.
Fifty-nine percent of voters also say Sanders is honest and trustworthy -- placing him well above former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, his chief rival for the Democratic nomination, and above all top Republican candidates tested in the poll.
Feel the BERN! Like I've said for a while, Bernie is my guy. I'm voting for him. I'm glad more and more of the country is coming around to him. I'm also glad that they see him as more trustworthy than Clinton. If Clinton loses her front runner spot to Bernie, the Republicans will lose most of their rhetoric about trustworthiness.
originally posted by: olaru12
Jeb on the other hand will be the wartime president....it's an established pattern. All this macho tough guy BS by Trump is just setting the stage for the Varsity players. The neocons....They have just been in the background training and gaining strength for the big game.
He won't be a centrist by any means and will simply keep the country divided and angry.
originally posted by: MOMof3
If Bernie is giving us all free stuff what is the problem? Compared to the cost of wars, free infrastructure, free healthcare sounds more fun.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: Mikeyy
Yawn.
What exactly does the Burn offer that should make me at all excited about him?
Let me guess, free stuff...
Yawn.
If you really wanted to answer that question honestly you'd simply look it up yourself. That info is all available online.
But it's much easier to stay uninformed and just make lame comments so you chose to do that instead it seems.
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Metallicus
Promoting the General Welfare is part of the Constitution.
Why must you guys cry 'socialist agenda'?
Because that clause is open to interpretation and my interpretation doesn't cost you or me money where yours does.
originally posted by: MOMof3
If Bernie is giving us all free stuff what is the problem? Compared to the cost of wars, free infrastructure, free healthcare sounds more fun.
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Metallicus
He won't be a centrist by any means and will simply keep the country divided and angry.
If you knew anything about his voting record then you would know that he could be a centrist. Bernie has voted with Republicans just like he has voted with Democrats it all depends on the issue.
originally posted by: somnum
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Metallicus
Promoting the General Welfare is part of the Constitution.
Why must you guys cry 'socialist agenda'?
Because that clause is open to interpretation and my interpretation doesn't cost you or me money where yours does.
Pre-Obamacare, America had the least efficient medical system in the world. In the world. That means we paid the most. Canada pays significantly less of its GDP to fund its universal healthcare system, and its results are the same, or better compared to the American system.
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
originally posted by: somnum
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Metallicus
Promoting the General Welfare is part of the Constitution.
Why must you guys cry 'socialist agenda'?
Because that clause is open to interpretation and my interpretation doesn't cost you or me money where yours does.
Pre-Obamacare, America had the least efficient medical system in the world. In the world. That means we paid the most. Canada pays significantly less of its GDP to fund its universal healthcare system, and its results are the same, or better compared to the American system.
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
Pre Obamacare was still post Government intrusion. The Gov inflated the price of medical care and let the illegals soak up all the charity which was budgeted at 25% before the gov "helped".
originally posted by: somnum
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
originally posted by: somnum
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Metallicus
Promoting the General Welfare is part of the Constitution.
Why must you guys cry 'socialist agenda'?
Because that clause is open to interpretation and my interpretation doesn't cost you or me money where yours does.
Pre-Obamacare, America had the least efficient medical system in the world. In the world. That means we paid the most. Canada pays significantly less of its GDP to fund its universal healthcare system, and its results are the same, or better compared to the American system.
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
Pre Obamacare was still post Government intrusion. The Gov inflated the price of medical care and let the illegals soak up all the charity which was budgeted at 25% before the gov "helped".
It's exactly the opposite of that. It's the fact that the government doesn't regulate it
that creates these insanely high prices.
You can create conjecture all you want, but when Canada, the UK, the Nordic countries, all have single payer healthcare, and pay significantly less, your argument goes out the window. We're dealing with facts, not conjecture.
The economics of scale allows the government to do certain things better than private industry.
Twenty cents of every healthcare dollar spent goes not to healthcare, but to marketing, underwriting, administration, and profit. That's not efficient in the least. All of that goes away with single payer.
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
originally posted by: somnum
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
originally posted by: somnum
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Metallicus
Promoting the General Welfare is part of the Constitution.
Why must you guys cry 'socialist agenda'?
Because that clause is open to interpretation and my interpretation doesn't cost you or me money where yours does.
Pre-Obamacare, America had the least efficient medical system in the world. In the world. That means we paid the most. Canada pays significantly less of its GDP to fund its universal healthcare system, and its results are the same, or better compared to the American system.
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
Pre Obamacare was still post Government intrusion. The Gov inflated the price of medical care and let the illegals soak up all the charity which was budgeted at 25% before the gov "helped".
It's exactly the opposite of that. It's the fact that the government doesn't regulate it
The government does regulate it. Even if you know what you sickness is, only a doctor authorized by the gov can write a prescription. Drugs are illegal by rule of the gov. The gov makes doctors work for free every chance it gets. The gov makes health care a legal problem.
that creates these insanely high prices.
High prices always means a monopoly, and monopolies can only exist as an effect of the deadly force government. Otherwise someone would sell quality medicine and therapy at a lower price and make money.
You can create conjecture all you want, but when Canada, the UK, the Nordic countries, all have single payer healthcare, and pay significantly less, your argument goes out the window. We're dealing with facts, not conjecture.
All of that is the from the economic momentum from the Industrial Revolution. Every generation the accumulated wealth is shaved away. Some day it will be gone.
The economics of scale allows the government to do certain things better than private industry.
Economics of scale is derived from the costs of resources in the free market. Governmnt programs distort the price structure throughout the economy. Any economic efficiency in government action would be purely accidental.
Twenty cents of every healthcare dollar spent goes not to healthcare, but to marketing, underwriting, administration, and profit. That's not efficient in the least. All of that goes away with single payer.
So does quality control and performance.
picture from the movie Idiocracy