I am SICK and TIRED of "Global Warming" Nonsense

a reply to: AboveBoard

Climate changes are natural. They can be exacerbated by human habits, but what will cause more immediate danger to us? Something we have no control over or Nuclear Armageddon? Whatever climate changes are happening will take place either way.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Nothing that has been published about "global warming" to date is accurate. The climate is going to change naturally whether we are here or not, however, the real danger we are facing today is not carbon emissions.

a reply to: NowWhat

Tax us for each bomb dropped and every innocent life taken in the name of idiocy and let us see how well that plays out.

a reply to: Metallicus

It is not a question of if global warming occurs, it does...evidence not necessary, but so does global cooling. Here is an interesting fact that Nuclear War will bring; first there will be a major warming and then it will be followed with a major cooling, with lots of acid rain and plenty of fertilizer as a result, lots of dead bodies....but hey there is a bright side...at least that goal of depopulation will manifest.

And I'm sick of all the "Global Nonsence" in general

a reply to: AboveBoard


Great chart that shows 60 years out of 4 billion. Ok I'll give you just time man was around 200,000. So that still means it only shows .0003% of the time.

Just like most other "global warming" data. Any other science that was based on a sample size that small would be laughed out of any university or class in the world.

Come back when you have at least a 1% sample size.


I'm a Historian and a Analyst by training. I have looked at the GW data and my opinion is that the sample size used is WAY to small for any accurate conclusions. Yes climate change happens, we have historic proof of this. What are the causes? Solar output, earth axial tilt, Volcanic action, methane build up and much more. Does human production play in? Sure. The issue is that we do not have a large data pool to use to calculate this. As I said less then .0003%.

It might also help if a climatologist could accuratly predict the weather and climate for just 2-3 DAYS before trying to do it for years.
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Also, as I stated solar output has a major impact on the earths climate and I have yet to see any of the GW do any real study on that factor.

According to Wikipedia ( en.wikipedia.org... )the average human being emits 900gm of CO2 per day. Taking the world population as 7 billion this equates to .9/1000x7x365=2.9 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. Also according to Wikipedia the annual emission of CO2 due to burning fossil fuels is 24 billion tonnes.

Pop quiz....Why do plants need CO2?

Plants breath using O2 (respiration) but the unique characteristic of plans is obtaining CO2 from the air and energy from the light to synthesize Glucose as the brick to build its own body (photosynthesize). In the night, respiration is the dominant process working within the plan and it also uses CO2 as much as animal to break down some organic chemicals, acquiring energy to live.
Human and animals don't have photosynthesis, so they have to eat each other to get energy-containing organic chemicals (eg protein, hydrocarbon, lipid etc.).

Can someone explain to me how CO2 is soooo bad if it is required for plant growth....More CO2 = Greener, more lush vegetation. ( I wish I could make that period at the end of my sentence bigger as to illustrate the finality of this statement)

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: eluryh22

TIPPING POINT! Do you not know what the phrase "tipping point" means? It means it is the point where there is no way we can prevent things from spiraling out of control. It doesn't mean they are already there though...

So do you have a solution for this 'problem' that doesn't involve me handing over my money or is that the only solution. I am going to guess you think it is something we should 'all chip in for'. You rarely have a position that doesn't cost other people their money or their rights.

You rarely have a position that isn't based on selfishness and pandering to the low-information right on this site. # the earth, give you your money, right?

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

This is a useless rant.

You do realize...when drought hits every single country....meh..,it's useless. Keep your head in the sand because that's all that will be left. If you think the Syrian exodus is bad, you just friggen wait.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

You do realize that we have most likely passed the tipping point that Al Gore was talking about within that 10 years? I mean you DO know what that quote was about right? Here's the ACTUAL quote by the way:

Many scientists are now warning that we are moving closer to several "tipping points" that could — within as little as 10 years — make it impossible for us to avoid irretrievable damage to the planet's habitability for human civilization. (Source)

Global warming: passing the 'tipping point'
It gives considerable force to the contention by the green guru Professor James Lovelock, put forward last month in The Independent, that climate change is now past the point of no return.

Since that is your point and position, why continue to berate others? What's the point? It's all over but the crying now. Nothing we can do, we have reached "THE TIPPING POINT!" the "POINT OF NO RETURN!!!!"

At this point the only sane thing to do is join with us, the few who hold out hope that most of this is just the Earth Cycle doing what it has done for billions of years. Hoping that we haven't come to the point where 200 years of us destroys an entire planet. (if that really is the case, we as a species are doomed and rightfully so)

But I suppose there is that special satisfaction you get when you say I told you so. It's so mature.

originally posted by: network dude
Since that is your point and position, why continue to berate others? What's the point? It's all over but the crying now. Nothing we can do, we have reached "THE TIPPING POINT!" the "POINT OF NO RETURN!!!!"

We can try to slow it down and CERTAINLY try not to keep accelerating it by doing nothing.

At this point the only sane thing to do is join with us, the few who hold out hope that most of this is just the Earth Cycle doing what it has done for billions of years. Hoping that we haven't come to the point where 200 years of us destroys an entire planet. (if that really is the case, we as a species are doomed and rightfully so)

You do realize that CO2 was a driving mechanism for climate change in the past too right? Hope is great, but hoping that Global Warming is a lie doesn't make it true.

But I suppose there is that special satisfaction you get when you say I told you so. It's so mature.

Hmmm... I don't remember ever saying "I told you so" once on these forums in the 3 years I've been on here. So this is a straight up ad hominem (especially the sarcastic part about maturity). In FACT, if you were to say, "You know after looking at the evidence, I was wrong MM Climate Change is real, let's do something about it." I'd be like "GREAT!"

a reply to: DirtyDean

Can someone explain to me how CO2 is soooo bad if it is required for plant growth....More CO2 = Greener, more lush vegetation.

In 5000 years human has cut down 80% of the worlds forest, 20% is left, 10% old growth, 10% reforest.

The "lungs" ( forest ) that keeps the Co2 balance on Earth is no more.

That thing is adding greatly to the Co2 problem.

a reply to: Mianeye

It's a shame that the AGW crowd isn't interested in this fact. It's possibly the easiest thing the collective "WE" can do, and weather you believe we caused all the warming, or you think the Earth is just going through it's cycles, you can do this and know it's a good thing and helps future generations.

Re-forestation programs would be really easy to do and would provide raw materials for future generations, plus jobs in the Forrest management area.

Someone should tell Obama.

a reply to: network dude

Why don't you start a company or charity instead of trying to get the government involved? You know you don't HAVE to wait until the government gets involved to try to do something to curb CO2 emissions.

The earth goes through cycles more then just the seasons. We cant stop global warming/cooling but we can slow it down/speed it up. People forget how fast our planet moves through space in the solar system,how fast our solar system flies through the galaxy and how fast our galaxy flies through space. Do you really think the temperatures surrouding us are always the same and have no influence on our planet? People that think that are very close minded. Theres so much we have no control over. Alot of temperature fluctuation is going to happen if we were here or not. It just happens at a slightly differant rate

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude

Why don't you start a company or charity instead of trying to get the government involved?

I guess because I am not the one crying about this. All those who want to spend their time telling everyone how stupid they are for not buying into MAN MADE WARMING might want to take this ball and run with it. I like trees. And I don't have to believe in any boogyman in order to get behind this.

a reply to: network dude

But it's not a bogeyman. And we are running with our ball. That is unless you have some definitive proof that man man warming isn't happening. Which you don't.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

cool, got a link to the reforestation program? I'd like to help promote it.

a reply to: network dude

Here's a list of programs:
Reforestation & Avoided Deforestation Projects

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So we haven't reached the tipping point yet? there is still hope?

I guess all the doom and gloom was just to scare us into participating.