Pepsi and The Black Knight

a reply to: Imagewerx

I did a little search because my memory about was not so clear.
But i think i remembered this one:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Gh0stwalker

Nope. But it is about brand visibility, to maintain their influence, or so most people would argue. Marketing and advertising have had to up their game in recent times with most of the public developing ADD and too distracted to pay attention. I for one really enjoyed the short film and the theme. There are multiple ways to evaluate this 'advertisement'. I am sure there is an incentive for the developers/producers to have made it so 'feel-goody' as to induce those sentiments and extended by association to their brand. Without incentives, there will be no funding for such a project.

All that aside though, is it not possible for a person to truly enjoy art, without being accused of 'falling for the propaganda? It was a pretty cool sci-fi short film imho.

originally posted by: Gh0stwalker
Bet you never thought you'd find Pepsi in this neck of the woods?


For those of you who don't know, The Black Knight satellite is supposedly a mysterious object circling the earth in a polar orbit. It's estimated as weighing roughly 15 tons and has been emitting radio signals for at least 50 years. Possibly longer as Nikola Tesla himself is rumored to have detected its signals as early as 1899 with a high voltage radio device. Apparently the signals have been decoded which revealed the object originated from the Epsilon Bootes Star System 13,000 years ago. On August 23, 1954 the technology magazine Aviation Week and Space Technology released a story about the Black Knight Satellite that angered the Pentagon who were trying to keep the information secret.

So what does this have to do with Pepsi? Your guess is as good as mine, but three days ago Pepsi released a ten minute video titled:

BLACK KNIGHT DECODED: A Pepsi Production

I can't even begin to speculate on why a soda company would put this much effort into an advertisement which encompasses everything from human/alien contact to police home invasions. Could they be conditioning the public to prepare for a contact event? Very strange to say the least. Even a little disturbing...

Why would they do this? Because right now you and everyone else on this thread is talking and thinking about Pepsi. It's called "advertising." And you have just proven that it works. Nice job, Pepsi.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason
holy shizznit folks its just a F****** movie.

Extensive advertising movie with a very unusual message. When a company spends that much money on a message so far from their actual product, I find that more meaningful than meaningless.

Riiiiight. It is WAAAAAY more reasonable to think that Pepsico is "bracing you for a release of information" about aliens as opposed to thinking that they are smart enough to market to virtually every demographic on Earth eventually. Because, logic.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: tsctsc

True - but times have changed and the audience is maybe more sophisticated now

But let's say that this isn't a commercial - what do you think it is? Why Pepsi?

I don't think the audience became so sophisticated that you don't need to place your product, logo or name anymore on your commercials. That would be achieved only if you placed subliminal msg (doesn't seem to be the case).

Furthermore, this is a 10 minute production. This is no regular commercial time. It's way too long for that.
It's not even a prank, like the one Pepsi once did at a bus stop.

It has zero marketing features, and zero marketing effects.

Why would Pepsi spend money on such a production we should ask them, not me not the OP.
Maybe all they wanted was us to ask "Why Pepsi would spend money on such a production" (just kidding ) but I don't think so.

so, I agree with your question, and I don't have an answer. But we should never take things for their face value. Questioning is what we do. The moment we do the right question, we will see the answer coming up. So instead of asking Why, maybe we should be asking Why Not.

I wonder if thats why they made the x-b. To go get it

a reply to: tsctsc

I don't think the audience became so sophisticated that you don't need to place your product, logo or name anymore on your commercials. That would be achieved only if you placed subliminal msg (doesn't seem to be the case).

OK. Then how come we have 8 pages of discussing Pepsi? Why would they need to actually place a can of soda in this video? Everyone already knows what Pepsi is. Its full of subliminal...the whole piece works on the subliminal. No, there aren't any covert images flashing by or ice cubes having sex. What you have is imagery, music...communication with aliens...its so alpha brain wave positive it makes me sick.

originally posted by: gflyg
I wonder if thats why they made the x-b. To go get it

Any evidence it is actually there? What exactly is its orbit?

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian
Coke beats Pepsi in sales for a reason.

Proof:

"I'd like a large Coke..."

"Is Pepsi okay?"


Or if you're in Chicago:

"No Coke!!! Pepsi!!!!"

a reply to: tsctsc

:-)

I'm secretly hoping the benevolent aliens saw all our best efforts, were duly impressed and are on their way...

But since Pepsi is telling us to hang on - more coming - I'm guessing not

Fingers crossed tsctsc

a reply to: ZetaRediculian

We are so n-o-t discussing Pepsi. We are discussing a video production that talks about an alien object that maybe the salvation of mankind.

It so happens that Pepsi somehow either sponsored it or produced it.
Watch the video again thinking something like this: If you had no idea it was a Pepsi production, would you say: "a-ha, there it is, it's a Pepsi ad!"
Does anything in that video portrait Pepsi or any company you know?

Do you really think that an American soda company would depict the American government in the way they did? It's disturbing.
They practically called the government paranoid, deceiving, authoritarian and liar. I wouldn't do this if I owned a company in the US.

So, again, I don't think Pepsi is the issue. The issue is Why would any company - more oddly a soda company - do a video such as this.

Dunno

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: tsctsc

:-)

I'm secretly hoping the benevolent aliens saw all our best efforts, were duly impressed and are on their way...

But since Pepsi is telling us to hang on - more coming - I'm guessing not

Fingers crossed tsctsc

We have no idea what may come up. I can't imagine anything so powerful that could control 7 billion people unless.... unless they used the mass media to steer us the way they want.

Then a video comes out. Via youtube, maybe the most powerful mass media we have available. Wouldn't that say something?

Let me second you: "fingers crossed"

originally posted by: tsctsc
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

We are so n-o-t discussing Pepsi. We are discussing a video production that talks about an alien object that maybe the salvation of mankind....

... or maybe doesn't even exist except in the minds of the hyper-gullible folks that commercial sellers aim at.

Hmmm?

originally posted by: tsctsc
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

We are so n-o-t discussing . Pepsi We are discussing a video production that talks about an alien object that maybe the salvation of mankind.

OK

It so happens that Pepsi somehow either sponsored it or produced it.
Watch the video again thinking something like this: If you had no idea it was a Pepsi production, would you say: "a-ha, there it is, it's a Pepsi ad!"

Does anything in that video portrait Pepsi or any company you know?

I see your point. Pepsi has nothing to do with this discussion. The only mention of Pepsi is in the title of the video. Why do you think that is? And why are they sending messages to this thing coded in Pepsi logo colors only? Very strange.

Do you really think that an American soda company would depict the American government in the way they did? It's disturbing.
They practically called the government paranoid, deceiving, authoritarian and liar. I wouldn't do this if I owned a company in the US.

That's the way the government is depicted in every sci fi movie or tv show ever...even by American movie and production companies. Why would a sci fi production by Pepsi be any different.

So, again, I don't think Pepsi is the issue. The issue is Why would any company - more oddly a soda company - do a video such as this.

No clue.

a reply to: JimOberg

as if its the first movie made about something like the black knight that spreads misinformation. skinwalker ranch comes to mind. does any of it matter? is it a sign of something nefarious. no, just a movie.

originally posted by: EartOccupant
a reply to: Imagewerx

I did a little search because my memory about was not so clear.
But i think i remembered this one:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fair enough,some random clouds (or contrails) just happened to form themselves into the shape of the letter V.In the case of the one in question,an aeroplane just happened to change it's heading at that particular place in the sky,the same as tens of thousands of planes do every day across the world.

Remember when coca cola wanted to put a huge billboard in orbit
When I read the title
For a second I thought Pepsi put that black night up there ready for some publicity stunt
Lol

Wait what?

I got shivers watching the ending though.

If only the world was this united. And if only all this was true.

consider me in the WTF club for now though.

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian

originally posted by: tsctsc
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

We are so n-o-t discussing . Pepsi We are discussing a video production that talks about an alien object that maybe the salvation of mankind.

OK

It so happens that Pepsi somehow either sponsored it or produced it.
Watch the video again thinking something like this: If you had no idea it was a Pepsi production, would you say: "a-ha, there it is, it's a Pepsi ad!"


Does anything in that video portrait Pepsi or any company you know?

I see your point. Pepsi has nothing to do with this discussion. The only mention of Pepsi is in the title of the video. Why do you think that is? And why are they sending messages to this thing coded in Pepsi logo colors only? Very strange.

Do you really think that an American soda company would depict the American government in the way they did? It's disturbing.
They practically called the government paranoid, deceiving, authoritarian and liar. I wouldn't do this if I owned a company in the US.

That's the way the government is depicted in every sci fi movie or tv show ever...even by American movie and production companies. Why would a sci fi production by Pepsi be any different.

So, again, I don't think Pepsi is the issue. The issue is Why would any company - more oddly a soda company - do a video such as this.

No clue.

Look, I answered according to your question. If you prefer, I can gladly replace the brand by its generic name (as I did a couple of times but you didn't bold them out): soda company.

Not that I care the use irony or sarcasm, for me it doesn't change anything.
It may even be (and I'm OK with that) merely a marketing strategy. However, if so, let's analyse it coldly: it's a veeeery bad one. It was probably very expensive, doesn't convince anyone to purchase their product, and will be forgotten pretty quickly (unless the Dark Knight really decides to communicate with us), or like the OP said: the video doesn't convey anything about the brand in question, and that's bad marketing.

About the sci-fi being mean to the US government... well, look, it's one thing being part of a hollywood ridiculous stories, and the other as a vilan in a commercial of a soda pop. But who cares... right? Obviously neither hollywood nor this short movie seem to be lying about the manias of the American (or pretty much any other) government.

Let's say I prefer to think that we still have some hope! And I believe that it must come from the outter space because as far as humans are concerned I lost my hopes. This planet and its earthling are doomed.
Doomed by the inhability of mankind to be (just) kind.
Doomed by the greed and ambition.
Doomed because we grip to things that are skin deep.
We are doomed because we are unable to accept other people's ideas in a nice polite way.

I hope Dark Knight is true, and I hope they can select correctly the people which to take away and the ones that will be left behind. And I hope all those who only causes distress and destruction pay the final bill. And for me that's all that is in that movie, regardless of its authors, actors and sponsorers: hope.

originally posted by: tsctsc

originally posted by: ZetaRediculian

originally posted by: tsctsc
a reply to: ZetaRediculian

We are so n-o-t discussing . Pepsi We are discussing a video production that talks about an alien object that maybe the salvation of mankind.

OK

It so happens that Pepsi somehow either sponsored it or produced it.
Watch the video again thinking something like this: If you had no idea it was a Pepsi production, would you say: "a-ha, there it is, it's a Pepsi ad!"


Does anything in that video portrait Pepsi or any company you know?

I see your point. Pepsi has nothing to do with this discussion. The only mention of Pepsi is in the title of the video. Why do you think that is? And why are they sending messages to this thing coded in Pepsi logo colors only? Very strange.

Do you really think that an American soda company would depict the American government in the way they did? It's disturbing.
They practically called the government paranoid, deceiving, authoritarian and liar. I wouldn't do this if I owned a company in the US.

That's the way the government is depicted in every sci fi movie or tv show ever...even by American movie and production companies. Why would a sci fi production by Pepsi be any different.

So, again, I don't think Pepsi is the issue. The issue is Why would any company - more oddly a soda company - do a video such as this.

No clue.

Look, I answered according to your question. If you prefer, I can gladly replace the brand by its generic name (as I did a couple of times but you didn't bold them out): soda company.

Not that I care the use irony or sarcasm, for me it doesn't change anything.
It may even be (and I'm OK with that) merely a marketing strategy. However, if so, let's analyse it coldly: it's a veeeery bad one. It was probably very expensive, doesn't convince anyone to purchase their product, and will be forgotten pretty quickly (unless the Dark Knight really decides to communicate with us), or like the OP said: the video doesn't convey anything about the brand in question, and that's bad marketing.

About the sci-fi being mean to the US government... well, look, it's one thing being part of a hollywood ridiculous stories, and the other as a vilan in a commercial of a soda pop. But who cares... right? Obviously neither hollywood nor this short movie seem to be lying about the manias of the American (or pretty much any other) government.

Let's say I prefer to think that we still have some hope! And I believe that it must come from the outter space because as far as humans are concerned I lost my hopes. This planet and its earthling are doomed.
Doomed by the inhability of mankind to be (just) kind.
Doomed by the greed and ambition.
Doomed because we grip to things that are skin deep.
We are doomed because we are unable to accept other people's ideas in a nice polite way.

I hope Dark Knight is true, and I hope they can select correctly the people which to take away and the ones that will be left behind. And I hope all those who only causes distress and destruction pay the final bill. And for me that's all that is in that movie, regardless of its authors, actors and sponsorers: hope.

edit on 22-11-2015 by tsctsc because: grammar