Ben Carson Says America Would Be Cuba If Not For Fox News

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well, I usually call myself "libertarian-minded," as I do disagree with some Libertarian Party stances on things.

But I usually don't try to call myself anything and let those trying to judge my stance on individual issues make ignorant assumptions of me. It's always fun to watch people think that people have to be pinned down to one of two parties.

Admittedly, though, I've been guilty of doing that myself, so I'm trying to teach me not to do that.

Carson's campaign just imploded. He's toast....

www.politico.com...

Okay this one's a real head-scratcher.

And this is the same dude who goes around saying many Americans are stupid? Hope he's including himself in that particular group.

This dude is definitely on medication. And his turn at driving the clown car is just about over.

Praise Jesus and FoxNews.

a reply to: Edumakated

I feel pretty much the same way, but being biased is one thing and flat out lying is another.

I don't feel sorry for Fox News though.

You reap what you sow.

Even die hard Right wingers won't be able to rationalize this one away...

originally posted by: olaru12
Even die hard Right wingers won't be able to rationalize this one away...

You underestimate right wing stupidity.

I think the stress has finally got to the poor geezer and he is tucked out. Lead him off to pasture now lets not watch a one good doctor destroy himself

Never agreed with him much but he was a good doctor and seem a nice man I hope he walks away with dignity.

a reply to: crazyewok

He's not a geezer!

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: crazyewok

He's not a geezer!

Didn't know he was one of the QLBGATSTSDTEFTEF+&- community ?

originally posted by: olaru12
Even die hard Right wingers won't be able to rationalize this one away...

Maybe he embellished the episode, maybe he didn't. Hard to say, but it does look bad. I am not attempting to rationalize it, but I can think of an explanation as I've seen this happen before.

I've seen situations where someone is offered a job / position informally. I've also seen this with schools as well. Not formally, but informally by someone with power to make things happen. Basically, the Dean or executive says we'll take you on. Just give me the word and I'll make it happen.

Applicant decides not to take the opportunity. Years later, if asked the applicant in question would say "I was offered such and such, but didn't take it..." Now if you were to call the company's HR department, there would be NO RECORD at all because all the formalities of the application are done after the fact, not before like with normal applicants.

So if someone dug deep enough and called the company in question, it might look like the person wasn't telling the truth when in fact he was telling the truth.

Might this be the case? Who knows. If only the media were that diligent about all the candidates. Given he is a conservative, this probably won't blow over, particularly since the RINOs don't want Carson either.

Of course, Obama's minions went to great lengths to hide his background and the media certainly wasn't interested in digging deep.

Personally I find a lot of this stuff gotcha on the left and right. It is one of the main reasons people don't want to serve in public office as every little thing you may or may not have done even decades ago will eventually get drug out.

a reply to: olaru12

OMG!!! And here I was busy watching stand-up comedy.....

O M G.

He's done. So much nope.

What a relief. I was getting kind of worried, there.

a reply to: olaru12

Here's some extext from your source - I know sometimes readers are too ambivalent to click links.

Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

The academy has occupied a central place in Carson’s tale for years. According to a story told in Carson’s book, “Gifted Hands,” the then-17 year old was introduced in 1969 to Gen. William Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the two dined together. That meeting, according to Carson’s telling, was followed by a “full scholarship” to the military academy.

West Point, however, has no record of Carson applying, much less being extended admission.

“In 1969, those who would have completed the entire process would have received their acceptance letters from the Army Adjutant General,” said Theresa Brinkerhoff, a spokeswoman for the academy. She said West Point has no records that indicate Carson even began the application process. “If he chose to pursue (the application process), then we would have records indicating such,” she said.

When presented with these facts, Carson’s campaign conceded the story was false.

Read more: www.politico.com...

I wonder if he performed brain surgery on himself?

a reply to: olaru12

Dude, make a thread. It's over. We can end the debate over him on this forum then. You found the article - the thread is yours....

a reply to: Edumakated

Sir, you can not be serious. He ADMITTED it. There's no, "Well, maybe" about it. HE ADMITTED IT IS A LIE.

I'm so sorry, but - give it up. He's an also-ran. Who just gave out. There is also very firm support for the idea he lied about all of his childhood bully behavior. Seen that?

The guy is a fraud. At least he got to sell a bunch-o-books while he was in the limelight.

Wow. Talk about being thoroughly discredited. He bit it. Fin.

He was invited to a $10-a plate dinner. That's it.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: crazyewok

He's not a geezer!

Didn't know he was one of the QLBGATSTSDTEFTEF+&- community ?

I have absolutely no clue what that is. None. Drawing a blank.

It is quite amazing how so many do not mind making their minds up without any facts or circumstances from any source other than a poorly worded article.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
It is quite amazing how so many do not mind making their minds up without any facts or circumstances from any source other than a poorly worded article.

He admitted it. Now he's apologizing for lying.




www.politico.com...

a reply to: olaru12

bs
Do you even care to post some truth?

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Edumakated

Dude, you can not be serious. He ADMITTED it. There's no, "Well, maybe" about it. HE ADMITTED IT IS A LIE.

I'm so sorry, but - give it up. He's an also-ran. Who just gave out. There is also very firm support for the idea he lied about all of his childhood bully behavior. Seen that?

The guy is a fraud. At least he got to sell a bunch-o-books while he was in the limelight.

Wow. Talk about being thoroughly discredited. He bit it. Fin.

If he comes right out and said he lied, then he's done.

However, that is not what was actually said. Reread the article... it sounds similar to what I described. The admission is just that he didn't formally apply to West Point, not that he wasn't courted. So again, it could have been a situation like I laid out.

From the article:

Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett wrote in an email to POLITICO. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”

“He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors,” Bennett added. “They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.”

To be clear, I am no defending him one way or the other. If he lied about it, then he will certainly have to take his licks. I'm just trying to see through the gotcha journalism.