For those who continue to believe nobody knows why the pyramids were built

And by the way, if you want to be re-energized and electrified...then think of the quantum of being combusted....just like the experiment demonstrated to you.....human life hit by electrical bolts whilst they slept.

a reply to: beenharmed

Just out of curiosity, how many hits of acid does one have to take to understand the direction this thread has taken?

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
Just out of curiosity, how many hits of acid does one have to take to understand the direction this thread has taken?

about 27

I'm talking about comparing the cutting marks and tolerances in cylindrical holes not polished surfaces.



a reply to: Harte

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
I'm talking about comparing the cutting marks and tolerances in cylindrical holes not polished surfaces.



a reply to: Harte

So, holes only?

I assume you'll go from Dunn's claims?

You seem to assert that recent experimental results sawing granite are in no way comparable to what we see left by the Egyptians. Do you have any info on ancient holes vs. recent experiments? You should realize that Stocks has only attempted to provide proof of concept, and nobody is paying him to saw a perfect hole. Yet.

Can you argue that Stocks should be able to exactly reproduce the Ancient Egyptian results? Is that your position? I mean, unlike the ancient Egyptian, Stock's livelihood doesn't depend on near-perfect tolerances.

Harte

I was talking about holes because that's what they were doing in Numbnuts' video. Come on and be real for five seconds will ya? you guys don't provide anything even remotely close to proving this can be done to the degree of sophistication and within the supposed timeline that the work in Egypt was done. You have nothing and stuff you keep throwing out there is not detailed enough and if you say it doesn't have to be detailed then go on believing your fantasy but the smart people know better. your stonewalling and diverting the point away from the forensic details is very telling.

a reply to: Harte

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
I was talking about holes because that's what they were doing in Numbnuts' video. Come on and be real for five seconds will ya? you guys don't provide anything even remotely close to proving this can be done to the degree of sophistication and within the supposed timeline that the work in Egypt was done.

You keep saying this, but you don't show anyone any of this so-called "sophistication" in hole sawing.

originally posted by: bottleslingguy You have nothing and stuff you keep throwing out there is not detailed enough and if you say it doesn't have to be detailed then go on believing your fantasy but the smart people know better. your stonewalling and diverting the point away from the forensic details is very telling.

On the other hand, you have nothing and don't even throw anything out there.

I showed how it was proven that granite can be sawn/drilled with copper and sand, the very thing I set out to do, and the very thing the fringe constantly claims can't be done.

What have you shown?

An ability to dodge and sidestep into another topic when forced to see the fallacy of former claims.

While such a skill might be handy, it is hardly uncommon on forums like this one.

Harte

Why don't you ask yourselves the question as to why the Earth stone has similar holes bored into it also?

originally posted by: beenharmed
Why don't you ask yourselves the question as to why the Earth stone has similar holes bored into it also?

Because this thread is not about "the Earth stone" or whatever it is you're on about...

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance You are posing questions about how holes got bored into the stone.

The ancient advice is that stone had a philosophy that involved stone levitation by sound.

Earth stone demonstrates the same sort of bored holes in its own stone, which would be an advice to the ancient mind as a consideration for employing the same use.

If you review the Book of the Dead information or anima that belonged to the Pyramids/ancient literature, it related to Atlantis-sAtanlit and the crystal of Earth. Archaeological evidence demonstrates that an origin Earth existed, as did an origin Universe and it was converted...by radiation and changed crystal.

The ancient channeled advice relates to the functions of radiation - nuclear and crystals....to levitate stone above natural fusion as a sound advice, it would relate to both quantums....the same as modern day use of nuclear sound. Asking how they got this advice is to observe that they had to be present on origin Earth when the stone levitation was activated...to then gain the advice by spiritual conscious awareness....the only reason the ancient wisdom was correlated.

If holes are being bored into the Earth body in today's review of using nuclear crystal sound transmissions, then it would be obvious that the ancients also achieved the same act themselves.

As a psychic and having seen various witnessed ancient records of the holographic vision, I once saw the Ancients using crystal wands at both ends of a huge plynth holding it above ground as they walked it to the building site.

that's what I'm saying: you only show a rudimentary form of cutting through stone with bamboo technology and do not go the extra mile to show that the cutting details are the same as we see in Egypt proving THAT is how the earlier work was done. You make no comparison between the primitive cut marks and the sophisticated and highly symmetrical ones in Egypt. If you need me to show you sophisticated stone work from Egypt then what the hell have you been doing all this time? like I said water can cut through stone too but it wouldn't compare to what we see in Egypt and actually many other sites around the world.
www.gizapyramid.com... here now show a picture of the cutting marks on a bamboo technology hole or else take your nonsense somewhere else.
a reply to: Harte

and p.s. the Egyptian cores were made by a tool turning in one direction not back and forth or am I wrong?

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
that's what I'm saying: you only show a rudimentary form of cutting through stone with bamboo technology and do not go the extra mile to show that the cutting details are the same as we see in Egypt proving THAT is how the earlier work was done. You make no comparison between the primitive cut marks and the sophisticated and highly symmetrical ones in Egypt. If you need me to show you sophisticated stone work from Egypt then what the hell have you been doing all this time? like I said water can cut through stone too but it wouldn't compare to what we see in Egypt and actually many other sites around the world.
www.gizapyramid.com... here now show a picture of the cutting marks on a bamboo technology hole or else take your nonsense somewhere else.
a reply to: Harte

and p.s. the Egyptian cores were made by a tool turning in one direction not back and forth or am I wrong?

They turned one direction when removed and put back in the hole with fresh sand.

Besides, multiple full rotations occur in both directions with the bow saw type.

Personally, I think it's as likely that draft animals were used. The addition of a decent jig would allow for the tolerances you're talking about. You'll note that these guys in the vid didn't have such a great setup.

It seems you're saying that you refuse to agree that AE hole sawing was done this way. As you just read, I am on the fence about that myself.

However, they had sand, they had copper and bronze (which would work better,) so they to my mind certainly cut their granite (when they cut it) with copper or bronze and sand.

Whether it was manipulated in the way shown in the vid is another matter. As I said, the fringe claim is that copper can't cut granite.

If you disagree with that claim, then the point is made and there's no use quibbling over how they weighted the saw or what methods they used to turn it.

Harte

I posted this pic earlier. Looks like you're upset over the distance between the hole and the camera.



Harte

originally posted by: beenharmed
a reply to: AdmireTheDistance You are posing questions about how holes got bored into the stone.

I've posed no such questions. Perhaps you have me confused with another member?

The ancient advice is that stone had a philosophy that involved stone levitation by sound.

This sentence makes no sense, but there is nothing (apart from luantic fringe claims) to even remotely suggest 'stone levitation' via sound or any other means.

Earth stone demonstrates the same sort of bored holes in its own stone, which would be an advice to the ancient mind as a consideration for employing the same use.

This sentence makes no sense either, so I cannot provide a proper response.

If you review the Book of the Dead information or anima that belonged to the Pyramids/ancient literature, it related to Atlantis-sAtanlit and the crystal of Earth.

Again, this is almost entirely unintelligible, but the Egyptian book of the dead does not contain a single reference to Atlantis or to any 'crystal of Earth', whatever that means.

Archaeological evidence demonstrates that an origin Earth existed, as did an origin Universe and it was converted...by radiation and changed crystal.

Please present said archaeological evidence.

The ancient channeled advice relates to the functions of radiation - nuclear and crystals....to levitate stone above natural fusion as a sound advice, it would relate to both quantums....the same as modern day use of nuclear sound. Asking how they got this advice is to observe that they had to be present on origin Earth when the stone levitation was activated...to then gain the advice by spiritual conscious awareness....the only reason the ancient wisdom was correlated.

More unintelligible babbling.

If holes are being bored into the Earth body in today's review of using nuclear crystal sound transmissions, then it would be obvious that the ancients also achieved the same act themselves.

I don't know what 'the Earth body' is supposed to mean, and there's no such thing as 'nuclear crystal sound transmissions'; That doesn't even make sense.

As a psychic and having seen various witnessed ancient records of the holographic vision, I once saw the Ancients using crystal wands at both ends of a huge plynth holding it above ground as they walked it to the building site.

You're not psychic, and I think you need to lay off whatever substances you're using.

originally posted by: beenharmed
As a psychic and having seen various witnessed ancient records of the holographic vision, I once saw the Ancients using crystal wands at both ends of a huge plynth holding it above ground as they walked it to the building site.

It doesn't take psychic powers to read Andrew Collins "Gods of Eden", because you obviously did, because it contains this passage

"According to the story, the builders struck the stone blocks with a special rod, causing them to levitate and float through the air for the distance of "one bowshot."

As this never actually happened, your claims clearly have a recent and much more earthly source. While at the same time being the sort of thing that only someone who has never actually studied Egyptology would think valid

I would guarantee if they eventually were able to spend the time using bamboo technology they couldn't match the degree of symmetry and consistency of tolerances. If you don't understand the significance of these points then you have proven your naiveté of this subject.

a reply to: Harte

originally posted by: bottleslingguy
I would guarantee if they eventually were able to spend the time using bamboo technology they couldn't match the degree of symmetry and consistency of tolerances. If you don't understand the significance of these points then you have proven your naiveté of this subject.

This from a man who has neither measured the degree of symmetry from either Denys Stocks work or the original Egyptian work, from someone who has done no comparison in the real world and who has not at any point tested to see if what is being said is actually possible
You're done here, you got nothing

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Star for you for making a well thought out intelligent post that reminded me of the good ol days of ATS.

have you? where are the measurements to prove bamboo technology can produce highly symmetrical, consistent tolerances? maybe you need spoonfeeding but I have been involved in this field long enough to know it can't be done.

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