Stunning Warning: War Coming to Europe

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: tony9802

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: tony9802

This is no journalism!
It's polemic, racist and not even close to objective reporting.
If anything it is some d**a** trying to pull the afraids further to the right.
Ts, sensationalists ...

You act as though this couldn't possibly happen..here try this article:www.jihadwatch.org... The title reads: UK universities to ban feminists and conservatives to avoid offending Muslims, is this really happening and have we just entered the twilight zone..

There is a new thread by the way concerning banning feminists and conservatives at this link:www.abovetopsecret.com... Don't be angry with me for finding this material..

People aren't angry at you for finding the information, just sharing it here on ATS.

With all due respect, some people's opinion regarding the influx of refugees into Europe are that it will result in war, whilst other's feel it will benefit Europe.

I have not read the other thread you refer to, but from the title, it doesn't exactly suggest that Europe will soon be at war.

Ok, thank you so kindly for presenting that politely..yes,
I think I find much of the harassment disturbing since people seem to be unable to see the bigger picture at hand..There is a Russian Chinese UN invasion of the US in place..we are all in agreement about that I believe. Then you have all sorts of muslim mobilization occurring within the United States..I believe most of us are aware of that as well. Most of us probably know that marxial law will be in place at some point in time, who knows when.

Are people unable to see that there will be a negative ramification in Europe, as a result of an invasion of the u.x.a? Jihadists sympathizers overrunning europe while the u.s. is on the ropes is going to be a terrible spectacle--Europe will have no one to turn to, and neither will SyriaPalestina(Israel). Grant it, Russian movement and activity in the Levant leaves me a bit baffled as I am trying to understand the direction in which all of this war mobilization will turn..

I suppose I contextualize these article informations in those contexts, and so for me, it is perfectly unbelievable to observe that so many people do not see what seems relatively obvious..the endangerment of europe and SyriaPalestina(Israel), where it too will be infiltrated and perhaps ultimately invaded..

a reply to: tony9802

Most of know that marxial law will be in place at some point in time, who knows when.

No we don't...
Which covers about all your post, because again just more wild speculation.

Sorry you think people disagreeing with you is harassment, welcome to an open forum.

There is a Russian Chinese UN invasion of the US in place..we are all in agreement about that I believe.

Based on what? Who is all in agreement with you on that...

The article in the OP is pretty spot on.

I live in France since i moved out of NY years and years ago, traveled all around Europe.

Then let me tell you, Europe changed a LOT.

And yes, its truly and invasion.

Islamization of Europe is really happening, with the help of the different eureopean govs.

But say whatever you want guys,since most of you never traveled far away from your doorstep.

Europe, is really screwed.

originally posted by: redhorse

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: redhorse

Sure, cause if one thing is known, then it is how successfull islamic states are...
Sorry, but you're so wrong. Most Muslims living here in second generation eat pig.

I hope that you're right and I am wrong. What I see though is just a cycling over, sort of like substituting one addictive behavior for another. We have rudderless societies made of disillusioned and disaffected individuals who are begging for a unifying theme. Islam will be the New Way to fill that void. People will eat it up. It is the oldest trick in the book, use religion to create cohesion and a fear of displeasing god is interwoven into your system of government and you have a reasonably obedient population that is ready to kill if necessary to save their immortal souls.

Our governments are already conditioning us to be complacent and obedient and kind of bored. We are desperate for a sense of purpose. I think Islam fits the formula very well. It'll slot in just snug as can be into that psychological void.

I have thought the same for a while now.

It is terrifying to hear someone else says it.

That is what agenda 21 really is, that is why the UN and the West have all given Islam a special status.

The American left pushes secularism, and woman's rights.

Yet embraces a religion that turns women into slaves.

I'm not religious, in fact I think them very bad for humanity as a whole.

But it does seem Christianity is being forced out in the West.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra

So you're willing to die for your faith?

That's the kind of dedication Islamic zealots have. Fight fire with fire if this does come to war.

That is the kind of dedication extremists have. Dying by attacking. That is an odd question in modern times. I suppose I would hide what my faith is if, say, Christian Fundamentalists came to great power in the US, which it seems they are trying to do.

That is where I see danger from. That might become an immediate and present danger, listening to a lot of the GOP presidential candidates speak. My last worry is a Muslim.

I don't watch very much american television, which might explain why I am unaware of a "coercive" xtian fundamentalist agenda; I personally do not agree with fundamentalists at all much either, but i can agree with them that a faith that wholeheartedly threatens democracy is something to worry about. Personally, I believe Hilary is going to win, and all of this is going to bring back the whole Bush cabal and families right back into the mix, as it had existed, back in 2001..In the meantime, censoring center and center right positions about indegenous european national policy strikes me as particularly perilous..

there is a civil war coming ,deny it if you like if you want to keep your blinkers on thats fine,but as a true englishman my eyes are wide open ,i wish it was not the case for the rivers of blood will flow deep.

i would never instigate violence ,but i will protect my true fellow countrymen ,what ever it takes to do this is fine with me.
on the beaches or in finsbury park ,southall etc

we know our goverments are complacent in this,but i assure you when we do react it will be swift,oh and a couple million muslim extremists is no match for the uk when we get going ask hitler

a reply to: ketsuko

No, where in the article defines a demographic 50s babyboom.

Define a culture and then define race. Culture defines borders, thats it. Is it moral and ethics? Does the immigrants/refugees know any of those? No, they dont, if they dont integrate into society, where lies the problem? The state? Home? No, both of those places teaches teleological consequence.
School, kindergarden, community youth centers, sport clubs and/or extracurricular activities those places integrate people.. Its not the states obligation nor your parents to teach you how to survive.

Everything i hear, there will be no Swedes nor germans in the next 50 years. Arent all of them culturally Swedes and German? This has nothing to do with culture, but everything to do with xenophobism and racism and portraying twohundred years of victorian virtues as the definition of a cultural society..

But fact states 150.000.000 million people died exactly cause of those ideals just in Europe, did they liberate Slaves?
Its about making the white people a supremacy race, did the slavery stop?
No, they just swapped to a Asian or African factory..

Your so called "secularization" happens, it comes with a working school program.. The refugees are here to stay, thats the bottom line.. You either accept it or you the modern cultural society will ditch you and leave you at the curve..

originally posted by: Dasrobot
The article in the OP is pretty spot on.

I live in France since i moved out of NY years and years ago, traveled all around Europe.

Then let me tell you, Europe changed a LOT.

And yes, its truly and invasion.

Islamization of Europe is really happening, with the help of the different eureopean govs.

But say whatever you want guys,since most of you never traveled far away from your doorstep.

Europe, is really screwed.

Yes, I've been to europe on a number of occasions, and I have been able to observe some of the changes, even if they have been gradual..the new mentality is attempting to sit itself, and it is so obvious that a traditional conversative approach to governance is being gagged censored and controlled.. there is nothing wrong with being tradtional conservative(moderate) and patriotic. I think the eu should be dissolved..

a reply to: Dasrobot

Ive been most places over the eastern world, did i learn something?

I sure did, we are f***** spoiled

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: tony9802

Most of know that marxial law will be in place at some point in time, who knows when.

There is a Russian Chinese UN invasion of the US in place..we are all in agreement about that I believe.

Based on what? Who is all in agreement with you on that...

You might want to catch up and do your homework on those issues right there..

I am sure that if any of the refugees were identified as being jihadist sympathisers, they would be refused asylum and returned to whence they claim.

If how you claim you are concerned about infiltrators of the Islamic kind and they have been allowed in without thorough checks being undertaken, then that's a failing of our own systems also.

As I said, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but scaremongering in this way will not do either sides of the debate on immigration, any good.

However, and this is the killer, all of this is as a result of the West's meddling in the M.E. That includes the terrorism, the unlawful invasion of a nation, the refugee crisis and the escalation towards WWIII.

a reply to: tony9802

Im patriotic and very, very, very conservative..

You are nothing but a racist, thats it..

originally posted by: Dasrobot
The article in the OP is pretty spot on.

I live in France since i moved out of NY years and years ago, traveled all around Europe.

Then let me tell you, Europe changed a LOT.

And yes, its truly and invasion.

Islamization of Europe is really happening, with the help of the different eureopean govs.

But say whatever you want guys,since most of you never traveled far away from your doorstep.

Europe, is really screwed.

Really? Yet you choose to remain in Europe? What's NY like if you would prefer to stay in a decaying Europe?

a reply to: tony9802

No, I am asking you back up what you say.

originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: tony9802

I don't think that she's right. Europe is going to go down with hardly a whimper within two generations and the U.S. might make three generations because of 9-11 but in the end... Islam will win the Western World. I don't think there is going to be a much of a dust-up save some minor cultural skirmishes, some hold-outs and a lot of complaining during the transition. Toward the end there will of course be the "Submit or Die" ultimatum and some violence but by then, it'll be too late anyway, much of the culture will be transitioned or at least conditioned to acceptance.

I'd tend to agree, but there's one hold out of hope. China....maybe two....Russia. My guess is that the Chinese will effectively take over the US within 3 generations, (and no, not by force, but by immigration see: www.latimes.com...) and they won't permit any religious group to dominate them whatsoever.

a reply to: tony9802

Stunning Warning: War Coming to Europe

More like, STUNNING CLICKBAIT = GENERATE REVENUES.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: 23432

OK,

1.) If the young immigrants were culturally disposed toward creating a vibrant economy, their own countries would not be third world pits; if they were in the up and coming countries, they would not be leaving in droves. Like it or not, not all cultures are equal.

2.) You have to assume the immigrants will have the education and skills and willingness to add to your economy and be able to create that wonderful future you envision.

3.) Why aren't the young Muslims in France or the UK proving to be boons to their economies?

Here we go ;

1 ) Their own countries might be pits for whatever reasons but remember that these people are hungy and looking to better themselves in the long term . These people cross continents and oceans to get to what you & I take for granted which is a functional democracy with a functioning economy where the workers are afforded a better pay for their labour.
They couldn't contribute in their own countries due to lack of opportunities .

2 ) Education is no big deal , willingness is proven and skills can be taught .

3 ) I can't speak of France but in UK the migrants actually do sustain NHS for example . Most migrants I knew were actually entegrated rather well .


Your experience might be limited or somewhat skewed for one reason or another. You don't think the population decline in Europe is a real threat to Europe ? These migrants are the medicine for that ill , might taste bitter to start with but in the long term they will entegrate and become Europeans themselves .

a reply to: Hyperia

And your failure to be able to define what your culture is is why they will win if you aren't careful. They know what their culture is and unless you can figure out what your own culture is and make the argument and make it persuasive, they will stick to what they are and what they know and it isn't compatible with what you are and what you know. Sorry to say it, but it's true.

And if you can't find any reasons why your culture ought to be one they adopt, then they won't bother and someday, you'll have a masked man standing over you demanding that you convert or die.

a reply to: tony9802

Of course they are facing war, with millions of fighting age men pouring into Europe. These are not actual refugees; this is an invasion. Just scanning pictures of the crowds online, you can see that most are men, with few if any women or children. The violence they bring is already a reality, with problems in train stations and other areas already being seen.

Remember, too, our president is bringing them here, too, and they are also coming to Canada.

originally posted by: UnBreakable
a reply to: tony9802

WND is akin to BIN and the Examiner as sources, as I've found out the hard way over time. Take it with a grain of salt. The usual scare tactics. It could happen in the "future", but the "future" is probably 25 or 30 years down the pike. Hopefully I'll be gone by then.

Problem here is that our children will have to suffer in 25-30 years time (if it takes that long and comes to this). I dont have any at the moment but I stilll wouldn't like to see what will happen in 30 years time to the the children!