The Phoenix Incident Movie 2015 part spoiler?

I seen this new movie. Since I have been a fan of ATS, i have read every thread about this incident. This movie goes into a different direction. It is about 4 guys who went to have fun in the desert where they had been before and were never found again. This happened to be the SAME day the lights incident took place. The movie is very easy to navigate on whats going to happen, especially if you are a reader of here. You are going to see something in the movie that's going to make you ask? What??? Is this true? Part of the story they tell you will know well about either it was flares or an actual ship. In the movie they ADMIT it was flares, but it was for a diversion.

My question is, and excuse me for pulling this like a solid tooth, but what is it, why is no one mentions the FIRST incident. This is the incident that was the craziest where i could have sworn i read that 100s of people had seen a ship a mile wide! People reported seeing the ship itself, not just the lights like in the 2nd incident. I remember people describing seeing windows and lights everywhere and some even said seeing outlines of beings in some of the windows. Why, after 18 years they will not talk about this first incident? Was it found that 100's of people where lying?

If you are looking for fact, this movie is not it, only in my opinion because i was not there..ATS is my only source where i read about . Of course i looked foolish after i explained the incident for 2 hrs to my daughter then watch the movie only to see that the movie only address the 2nd sighting of lights (flares) at a minimum.

Thank you for reading,
Bud

I have seen the eyewitness testimony of the first encounter on video and have heard the stories of humongous, translucent, silent, triangular shaped craft passing over people's heads hours before the flare incident took place.

The flares certainly appear to be a successful diversion.

a reply to: bud316

In the movie they ADMIT it was flares, but it was for a diversion.

They're partly right , it was flares but not for diversion but training , the first incident were terrestrial planes.

a reply to: bud316

The lights were a formation of military planes plus flares which had absolutely no bearing on any other "incidents" that night.

originally posted by: _BoneZ_
a reply to: bud316

The lights were a formation of military planes plus flares which had absolutely no bearing on any other "incidents" that night.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: bud316

In the movie they ADMIT it was flares, but it was for a diversion.

They're partly right , it was flares but not for diversion but training , the first incident were terrestrial planes.

Its interesting that neither one of you were there, yet you seem so certain about what happened.

Governor Fife Symington, who originally spoofed the situation in an attempt to calm the public, later admitted that he had seen the "huge" craft as well, and it didn't look like anything from earth. He is also an ex-National guard pilot so knows a bit about military craft.

Fife Symington and the Phoenix lights

Thousands of witnesses as well, some talk about the sighting in this documentary:



So when you say "terrestrial craft" you mean from the secret space program, right? Because if I look in any Jane's Defence Weekly publication I won't find any aircraft the size of aircraft carriers with silent propulsion.

However, if what the secret space program whistleblowers are saying is true, the secret space programs (SSP's) have these craft discussed here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

So this was not an ET event.

Dry run for a fake alien invasion maybe?

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Sir, i did not say either way. I know there was a first incident, I am asking about it. I am 100% aware of it. Bonez brings up an excellent point though because he says :The lights were a formation of military planes plus flares which had absolutely no bearing on any other "incidents" that night. Which would reflect different from the movie in the Subj im speaking of.

Planet states "Governor Fife Symington, who originally spoofed the situation in an attempt to calm the public, later admitted that he had seen the "huge" craft as well, and it didn't look like anything from earth. He is also an ex-National guard pilot so knows a bit about military craft. "

I remember this, but i just do not remember him saying this public. So please help me. Are you saying for 100% sure, that the US Air Force dropped this flares, in formation, to cover up the first craft sightings? THe movie states monsters, attacking these hiker guys, bike rides, was going on as the flares were a distraction. Bonez NOR I stated for sure as if we were there, he is going by info he knows, you are speaking as if u know for sure, so please, i want to know , tell us what you know Bro.. LOL

thanks for following guys, keep the questions and answers up so we can all figure out, what the hell happened that night.. plenty of references..


Bud316

a reply to: bud316

Im sorry for double post. But i do remember this on the news for hours. I was calling everyone i know, i mean this was a pretty scary situation..Are we really being invaded? IF you read all the threads you will see this thing drifted north or something toward vegas... people were legit scared... Reminded me of war of the worlds in a sense, like, are those light really a spaceship?

Ok, thanks,
Bud316

a reply to: bud316

There was some good discussion on the topic in this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Its interesting that neither one of you were there, yet you seem so certain about what happened.

That's called following the evidence.

Governor Fife Symington, who originally spoofed the situation in an attempt to calm the public, later admitted that he had seen the "huge" craft as well

Yeah , he did say that didn't he.

So when you say "terrestrial craft" you mean from the secret space program, right?

Wrong , I mean USAF planes with Human pilots on a training exercise , there was no huge triangle craft the first incident was several planes flying in formation , the second was as has been shown many times , flares.

Funny, I have never seen any kind of flares that fly in formation in a horizontal direction ...EVER in any country I was deployed ,I was in a lead vehicle in Iraq.
I would say THAT explanation is for the rubes who never saw such sights who fail to into account wind direction at varying altitude and the rather embarrassingly obvious fact of GRAVITY.
Our govt wouldn't lie to us huh?

a reply to: cavtrooper7

The flares didn't travel in formation in a horizontal direction they descended in formation in a vertical direction.
The planes from the first incident flew in formation in a horizontal direction.

a reply to: gortex

You believe everything you read and are told, I truly feel sorry for you.

Im not kidding


I really, really do

a reply to: Poppcocked

Cheers Boo Boo but your sympathy is misplaced , I suggest you remove the blinkers and go look at the evidence rather than concentrate your attentions on those who have the most to gain by propagating the myth.

He doesn't have to if he KNOWS anything about aviation decoy flares.
My information is from watching aircraft for about 6 years over Ft.Carson, Germany, .Desert Storm.
Unless the sky is windless the chutes in SIGNAL flares linger that long at that altitude.
Off of a fighter they separate a lot as they drop, it isn't uniform at all

a reply to: gortex

Evidence? HAH!

are you seriously this naive?

my god man think outside your tiny box before it suffocates you.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
Its interesting that neither one of you were there, yet you seem so certain about what happened.

That's because the evidence proves the certainty. It's all layed out in my threads (link in signature and above). I even included a map with witness account locations proving those that saw a solid object and those that saw a formation of planes were in the same locations.

Thus, those who saw a solid object were mistaken.

a reply to: gortex

Which myth do YOU speak of ?
HERE is what FLARES look like..www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com... Army Ilume flares.
NOT FLARES.

a reply to: _BoneZ_

REALLY ,where did the USAF get silent air craft?
If memory serves EVERYONE should have heard the characteristic A-10 whistle.
I know THAT well from ANY altitude. When they fire it sounds like a f#rt in the sky.
I believe THAT was the cover story...

I believe eyewitness testimonies over official bunk reports, any day of the year.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: gortex

Which myth do YOU speak of ?
HERE is what FLARES look like..www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com... Army Ilume flares.
NOT FLARES.

Most supporters of the lights being unknown craft now accept the second incident (light over Phoenix) were flares , the overlay video shows them going out in correlation with going behind the mountain ... they were flares.

Of course the narrative has now shifted from them being a craft to them being part of a cover up.

a reply to: Poppcocked

Evidence? HAH!
are you seriously this naive?

The evidence is there just you don't want to believe it , if you choose to believe this fairy story that's your choice but that doesn't change the facts.
Sighting one ... planes , there is video of them.
Sighting two ... Flares , again there is video that shows they were flares and most of the supporters now accept that.
The flares have been seen since but nobody's interested in those apparitions ... wonder why.